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Scam alert. Best 5 tips for the buyers.
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Believer1984
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Hello every one here are my personal tips the best 5 from me. its my greatest Belief if you note them down or if yopu sink them in you will never get wripped off again as a buyer from minority scammers who are increasing fast .

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1) Western Union - ... This is a quick getaway ' and is highly a scammers trap ' they throw a net on you and you are trapped ' they might even ask you for small payments ' payments like 80 /100 usd and they

say ''oh come on its a small amount ' your company wont loose out will they''

'' We only accept western union ' its good ''

'' please use western union and send me mtcn number quickly ''

'' Ok just pay for shipping you can have sample free and pay shipping ''

''western union ''western union ''

im a witness i lost a small amount and its there quick getaway money and small amount they cheat each company so they make a total of high figures.

NO TO WESTERN UNION !!!

YEST TO ESCROW AND PAYPAL !!!

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2) The Begging - ... ' If they keep begging you '

'' oh please buy from us and '' oh come on pay now its ok '

'' everything is safe''

be aware of the begging pattern and if they e-mail you every 2 day begging for you to pay . Then its simple they are cheap crooks wanting you to send the cash so they can live on it.

SAY NO TO BEGGERS !!!

SAY YES TO GOOD BUSINESS MEN AND WOMEN !!!

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3) Nigerian /Romanians - ... Ok the majority ' im not blaming the good hearted nigerian and romanian business men and women .

Im talking about Nigerian and romanian Thieves' If you are likely to discuss business with a Nigerian or Romanian or even send payments to a nigerian or romanian individual/Business.

You are like to 70% lose your money ' to avoid this check the company up and also some even use other companies to ruin their image and convince you that they are real.

I SUGGEST - You make a phone call to land line company number or meet them in person 'or even better get alibaba to go and inspect the goods onsite.

SAY NO TO MOBILE PHONE NUMBERS FOR CONTACTING !!!

SAY YES TO CALLING COMPANY LANDLINE PHONE NUMBERS !!!


4) The Gold and Trustpass- ... Ok if you are new and looking to buy safely on Ali baba i suggest you begin doing Business with Gold and Trustpass' Certifier's only.

These are Companies and small individuals who have past the verification check ' by Alibaba and its Team they are 97% Genuine to do business with .

But the free members who are sellers ' To find a genuine 1 is like looking for a needle in a haystack' 70% of free paid members are likely to be scammers please avoid.

SAY NO TO FREE PAID MEMBERS !!!

SAY YES TO GOLD AND TRUSTPASS MEMBERS !!!


5) The Prices - ... The final tip i give you all is ' if the price is too good to be true. I mean if its very low and it shocks you ' then this is a catch and they ' the silly crooks want you to be amazed and want you to quickly make payments .

Never take that risk always take high safety checks' and if the price is very low and it suprises you ' then the scammers has just taken a snap of you with his crook camera and has hynotised you .

SAY NO TO SHOCKING LOW PRICES !!!

SAY YES TO GOOD BUSINESS PRICES !!!


MMM NOW IF YOU ARE A CROOK OR A SCAMMER READING THIS ' **** YOU ' YOU THINK YOU CAN BE SMART AND LOOT GOOD INNOCENT BUSINESS MEN AND WOMEN WELL GUESS WHAT ' IM A STEP AHEAD OF YOU AND NOW I EDUCATE PEOPLE ON ALI BABA AND SHED SOME EXTRA LIGHT TO TAKE CARE AND BE SMARTER THEN YOU FOOLS.

NOW IS THE TIME THE GOOD HEARTED BUSINESS MEN AND WOMEN RAISE THEIR VOICE AND WE KICK THESE CON ARTISTS OUT ' AND TELL THEM WE ARE GETTING SMARTER AND YOU ARE GAME OVER FOOLS.

LONG LIVE THE GOOD PEOPLE !!!

THANK YOU

MR SHARAAZ
12 Jun 2006 16:21
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chilegringo
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Replying to [Believer1984]:Replying to [Believer1984]:Well written and said Believer. I would add to be sure and ask for 1) Full name, address, phone number (make sure to call before you buy). 2) Business license number or registration number. 3) 3 customer references. My limted experience has found that if they are a scammer they will run when you put them to tough questions.

Choa,

Gringo in Chile
12 Jun 2006 17:59
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I can give you at least 2 gold suppliers who are thieves. Say no to gold suppliers, say yes to paypal and bank transfer to a company bank account. Say no to personal bank accounts. Say no to Putian, Fujian CHINA. The most thieves are from this region.

Say NO to gold and trustpass thieves. There are a lot of them.

Be very careful about who you send your money.

21 Jul 2008 03:52
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Quoting from [chilegringo]:


Replying to [Believer1984]:Replying to [Believer1984]:Well written and said Believer. I would add to be sure and ask for 1) Full name, address, phone number (make sure to call before you buy). 2) Business license number or registration number. 3) 3 customer references. My limted experience has found that if they are a scammer they will run when you put them to tough questions.


Choa,


Gringo in Chile



First and Second point are good methods to avoid to be cheated. [em19]

About the third point, I think customer should be secret to Chinese and many of them can not tell others.

22 Jul 2008 20:01
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Dear Mr. Sharaaz,

I don't agree with what you say about Nigerian or Romanian companies. I think you do, unfortunately, what most of people does, that is judging after having a bad experience with somebody. You can say this is a general characteristic about these countries, because it is not so. As in every country, there is bad intentioned and well intentioned people. You can't say that nobody is serious and legal there.

Regards,

Alina Popescu

24 Jul 2008 04:00
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Quoting from [v4]:




Dear Mr. Sharaaz,

I don't agree with what you say about Nigerian or Romanian companies. I think you do, unfortunately, what most of people does, that is judging after having a bad experience with somebody. You can say this is a general characteristic about these countries, because it is not so. As in every country, there is bad intentioned and well intentioned people. You can't say that nobody is serious and legal there.

Regards,

Alina Popescu



hi alina, i totally agree with you, anyhow,  everycountry has good people...

but  Mr. Sharaaz 's opinion is somehow reasonable and useful...

24 Jul 2008 19:44
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Quoting from [v4]:




Dear Mr. Sharaaz,

I don't agree with what you say about Nigerian or Romanian companies. I think you do, unfortunately, what most of people does, that is judging after having a bad experience with somebody. You can say this is a general characteristic about these countries, because it is not so. As in every country, there is bad intentioned and well intentioned people. You can't say that nobody is serious and legal there.

Regards,

Alina Popescu



Yeah ,I agree with Alina for your reasonable saying.

We tend to criticize others when we get loss especially when we are cheated. However, we could not judge all the people by that  BLACK SHEEP in their region. We should treat them fair with our caution.

26 Jul 2008 18:19
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great post!!! thankx[em14][em19][em19][em19]

27 Jul 2008 21:40
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Quoting from [chilegringo]:


Replying to [Believer1984]:Replying to [Believer1984]:Well written and said Believer. I would add to be sure and ask for 1) Full name, address, phone number (make sure to call before you buy). 2) Business license number or registration number. 3) 3 customer references. My limted experience has found that if they are a scammer they will run when you put them to tough questions.


Choa,


Gringo in Chile


reasonable saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
27 Jul 2008 23:35
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MR SHARAAZ,


I am also offended by labeling all Romanians as scammers. I am too from Romania, but my transactions were always clean.


It takes 99 people to do good things but they'll always notice the 100th that does bad!!! This is the Romanian's fate in Europe, me included!


Best regards,

Calin
04 Aug 2008 20:39
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rabihhalbawi
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How do you report scammers? how come they don't have rating level from costumers such like ebay, positive or negative feedback on each company.


Pls anyone deliver my message to alibaba and let them do that as soon as possible because like that you can solve lots of problems, thank you
20 Sep 2008 05:20
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