In general I find that chinese cmpanies somehow manage to find much better shipping prices overall usually. The country where I live and work is better connected to china than most other countries by ship, even though it is so far away, so th price difference is usually around 10%. I've ordered shipments from Germany and paid over 30% on some products.
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The biggest problem I find with Chinese factories, though, is their willingness (or rather lack of) to use groupage services (where you buy container space rather than a whole container). The minimum order is usually far too high for a normal trader, making stocking up a normal shop a pretty difficult task. I think the Chinese market has to realise that even though wholesalers can buy much more, if smaller traders cut out the middle man, the small traders get more money, and so do the Chinese factories. I also found that some Chinese manufacturers seem to get offended when you say you need, say, only 50 units of each item.