Quoting from [tworiverstradingco]:


Replying to [tworiverstradingco]:


Wow, more postings of scammers today. I'm going to bump this post again. Hope no one minds too much.

Are there any companies that i can pay to do due deligence on my behalf?

Quoting from [Xsniper]:



Replying to [tworiverstradingco]: the best way to identify a scammer is that if they are a gold partner or have trust pass then you know they are scammers. You will get no service or no product or not what you ordered or all of the above.

You know what xsniper, your full of  it!  I am a Trust Pass Member and joined just recently, and I can guarentee you I am not a scam artist. I am a small company just getting started and wanted all the advantages I could get in order to NOT get defraued. I  have been in contact with so many Supposed suppliers without one being willing to send me a copy of invoices from previous orders in order that I might check with their clients, that I couldn't even count. But I am legit. Now, if you know someone in Nigeria, Cameroon, India or China that supplies jatrpha oil or biodiesel I would be most appreciative. Or even someone I could pay as a third party to check, wonderful. But the lumping of all in a catagory is prejudicial.

Jim ADF

Quoting from [Jason Lim CH]:


Replying to [calambeno]:


If you are buying electronics or mobile phones or brand name stuff, then its a scam

Golden Rule Number 1

Do not do business with any company requesting western union for payment. Its a non traceable way for a scammer to run off with your money. Even by some extremely odd chance they were legit, its just way too big a risk to take. If they are so professional and such a high volume supplier, how come they can't offer their buyers paypal or some other highly secure form of money transfer? There just blatant scammers!!

(Have nearly been done myself, and they sound very convincing)

Golden Rule Number 2

Scammers prey on new comers to trading, who don't have the knowledge and experience.Don't do any online trade until you are well trained and informed. You have to be several steps ahead of these monsters, or they will eat you up. Read all the comments on this forum and go through the learning curve, if you want to pursue online trade.

If you can find a supplier where you can go to their business address and pick the item up yourself (meeting them face to face), go with that, its a lot safer. Alibaba is a very scary place for a newbee trader as it is absolutely rife with scams. Just do a search on buying leads to see the number of traders only accepting western union.Be very carefull!!!

Golden rule Number 3

Sift out the scammers by asking in your correspondance with them if you can meet with them at their warehouse or factory to see how their operation works. Say something like ' I'm doing a trade visit to my supplier network this week. Can we schedule a date, time and place to meet where I can see your operation and inspect the quality of your products. I like to meet face to face with potential business suppliers'.

If they come up with excuses as to why they can't meet you, or you don't get a response, you'll know straight away that there more than likely full of it. Trust no-one!!! Don't put your hard earned dough at risk. Some may even agree to meet you, and have some bogus representative show you some dodgy front operation. Beware of this too. But for some scammer to do that, that would be pretty unlikely, because for all he knows you might be a private investigator or some form of policing authority and there's no way he's going to risk it.

Hope this information helps. I'm still continually learning too, so can all the experts keep posting their stuff.

Cheers,

From Genuine Trader.

Quoting from [tworiverstradingco]:


Okay all here goes...


First off...This is NOT A TRADE LEAD -- I am in teaching mode here. I have come across so many people who simply have no idea how to research a company, so I'm going to go through a scenario using my own company as an example of how to research a company. It is not a promotion for my company, just an honest effort to teach people how to research BEFORE they get scammed.


Okay, so you get approached by someone on Trade Manager or you contact a company you find in sell leads or someone has contacted you from your buy lead. Here are some examples of ways to easily identify whether they are frauds/scammers or not. This is NOT foolproof. Do your due diligence and you will be less likely to get scammed. Follow along at each step (if you care to).


Before contact or at the time when contact has been made:

Identify the company name.

Let's say that I contacted you. You need to do a search on Alibaba to find my company profile.

Go to the home page of Alibaba.com

Type the name of the company in the search box ? Please take note, sometimes less is more in regards to what the results output will be ? You may want to only put Two Rivers as your search term, you will likely come up with more results.

Choose Companies from the drop down box.

Click search.

Here are the results of that search (for Two Rivers Trading):

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?Type=&SearchText=Two+Rivers+Trading&IndexArea=company_en

CAN YOU PLEASE GET TO ME A EMERGENCY !!!!!!! NEED HELP

Quoting from [jimadf]:

Quoting from [Xsniper]:




Replying to [tworiverstradingco]: the best way to identify a scammer is that if they are a gold partner or have trust pass then you know they are scammers. You will get no service or no product or not what you ordered or all of the above.

You know what xsniper, your full of  it!  I am a Trust Pass Member and joined just recently, and I can guarentee you I am not a scam artist. I am a small company just getting started and wanted all the advantages I could get in order to NOT get defraued. I  have been in contact with so many Supposed suppliers without one being willing to send me a copy of invoices from previous orders in order that I might check with their clients, that I couldn't even count. But I am legit. Now, if you know someone in Nigeria, Cameroon, India or China that supplies jatrpha oil or biodiesel I would be most appreciative. Or even someone I could pay as a third party to check, wonderful. But the lumping of all in a catagory is prejudicial.

Jim ADF

dear friends :

as a third part we can help you to identified a company real of fraud. if you do have this need.please contact me for more further details .

 

This is very good information for me. I just started an internet business, so I find your post valuable. Thanks for sharing.


 

You can use some webs like www.verifysuppliers.com, a site specialized in detection of  Indonesian Fraud Companies.


You can post in the forum or ask for a professional verification of the company you plan to deal with, so you get peace of mind, as in less than 24 hours you get the report and you can decide if you continue or not the deal.

 

lets spread the word!  only thing we can do for others not to get scammed, hopefully they will be smart enough to read all of these prior to do any business with anyone here in alibaba.com

BEWARE OF THESE SCAMMERS, THEY HAVE SO MANY MADE UP COMPANIES. THEY CHANGED THEIR COMPANY NAME EVERYTIME THEY SCAMMED SOMEONE.  tHEY CAN SEEM VERY REAL WITH ALL THEIR CONTACT INFOS AND COMPANY NAME BUT THOSE ARE ALL MADE UP. AFTER THEY PICKED UP YOUR MONEY THEY DISAPPEAR.

iF YOU WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH ANYONE HERE  MEET THEM YOURSELVES AND SEE THE PRODUCT FIRST BEFORE YOU BUY.

WW.MDLTRADE.CN

WWW.JERSEYABC.COM

WWW.DIYTRADEINCHINA.COM

WWW.AIFACN.COM

WWW.ECW.COM

WWW.YDY99.CN

WWW.DIYTRADEINCHINA.COM

WWW.TODAYTRADEKEY.CN

AND MANY MORE...CONTACT INFO ALMA CHEN OR ALMACHEN@MSN.COM, FANFANGOLD@MSN.COM, FIONAPPLL@MSN.COM THEY PRETEND TO SELL ELECTRONIC GOODS FROM LAPTOP TO IPHONE ETC

WESTERN UNION RECIPIENT NAME: QINGLAN LIN/ ZIANG RU ZHANG

ADD: 129 QINGGAN RD GUANGZHOU CITY, GUANGDONG PROVINCE CHINA 330002

 

COMPANY NAME SHENZHEN LIU YUEN TRADING CO LTD, HONG KONG NEW WORLD TRADE CO. LTD, ZONGKAI TRADING CO. LTD, HONGKONG TODAY TRADE, HONGKONG NEW WORLD TRADE CO LTD ETC ETC THEY HAVE SO MANY MADE UP COMPANIES WHO STEALS YOUR MONEY BY SENDING THEM $$ VIA WESTERN UNION,T/T BANK TRANSFER

I WAS SCAMMED MYSELD AND I WANT EVERYONE TO BEWARE. DO NOT SEND MONEY VIA WESTERN UNION T/T OR BANK TRANSFER BEC 100% YOUR MONEY WILL BE GONE FOR GOOD.

READ ARTICLES OR SCAM FORUM BEFORE MAKING ANY DECISION, WHICH I WISH I HAD DONE BEFORE THEN I COULD HAVE AVOIDED BEING SCAMMED.

 

hERE IS A LINK TO INTERNET CRIME COMPLAINT CENTER AFFILIATED WITH FBI. YOU CAN REPORT THEM HOPEFULLY SOMETHING CAN BE DONE.

  http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx 

 SPREAD THE WORLD ABOUT THESE COMPANIES.. I POSTED ALL OF THESE ON EVERY FORUM. HELP OTHERS BY POSTING IT EVERYWHERE THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO.

Quoting from [vicegerent]:


Replying to [tworiverstradingco]:


Thanks a bunch for all your effort you have put to help us lot here. This stuff is really helpful.


Thanks again!!

same here.. it helped me a lot/

Quoting from [tworiverstradingco]:


Okay all here goes...


First off...This is NOT A TRADE LEAD -- I am in teaching mode here. I have come across so many people who simply have no idea how to research a company, so I'm going to go through a scenario using my own company as an example of how to research a company. It is not a promotion for my company, just an honest effort to teach people how to research BEFORE they get scammed.


Okay, so you get approached by someone on Trade Manager or you contact a company you find in sell leads or someone has contacted you from your buy lead. Here are some examples of ways to easily identify whether they are frauds/scammers or not. This is NOT foolproof. Do your due diligence and you will be less likely to get scammed. Follow along at each step (if you care to).


Before contact or at the time when contact has been made:

Identify the company name.

Let's say that I contacted you. You need to do a search on Alibaba to find my company profile.

Go to the home page of Alibaba.com

Type the name of the company in the search box ? Please take note, sometimes less is more in regards to what the results output will be ? You may want to only put Two Rivers as your search term, you will likely come up with more results.

Choose Companies from the drop down box.

Click search.

Here are the results of that search (for Two Rivers Trading):

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?Type=&SearchText=Two+Rivers+Trading&IndexArea=company_en

Great way to do that but please be more specific.