Replying to [tworiverstradingco]:

I simply call the company and ask. If you call China - expect them to speak Chinese - and if they speak English with a Nigerian accent you know what to do.

Another is to fax them, asking them to e.g. print their Alibaba posting and fax this back to you.

I third is to use e.g. Skype or MS Messenger, find someone in the same city and ask therm to make a quick call. They speak the local language - and if they come back telling you that the number is to a paint-shop - you know that this is not place to order mobile phones.

Most people will respond positive and make the call - just remember to reward this person afterwards for the call if you proceed and make a fortune. Fortunately e-commerce is about people, and lending a hand to other traders should be more common.

Replying to [tworiverstradingco]:
Supplier Scamed Me !!!. Not Responding Now .... From IRELAND

Hi.,

* I am from west yorkshire, UK.

* My supplier is Mega Blue (Petr Pavel).
http://www.alibaba.com/company/11111129.html

* we had a deal of 6 pieces of Brand new + with 18 month guarente + sealed tomtom 910 @ US$500.

* And the deal was 50% upfront and 50 % after shiping through Fedex.

* I paid him 250 US Dollars, and also given him
MTCN # *** *** ****

* but now .., he does not respond me.. , first he blocked me and then.. once he said i need full money.. also he did not deliver me any thing.

* So, I said that if he can not deliver me then refund my money, but he is not responding. at all.
* I am in trouble, please help me. And i paid him through
Western UNION ..,
So, what is the solution now ??? please respond me ASAP.

thxx.,
-abs




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Mega Blue Limited

Talk to me now

See our Company ProfileAbout Us
Mega Blue Limited is a registered company located in Dublin Ireland with the sole aim and objectives of sells and supplies of mobile phones. We offer good and quality products. Our products are all brand new and original. We ship worldwide and we are pacesetters in the general supplies and distributions of all brands and models of mobile phones. We render good and affordable products and services to our esteem customers.

Company Profile
Company Name: Mega Blue Limited
Country/Territory: Ireland
Address: 4, Clonsilla Road, Blanchardstown, Dublin, Ireland
Products/Services We Offer: Mobile Phones
Business Type: Distributor/Wholesaler
Industry Focus: Mobile Phones ,
Geographic Markets: Worldwide
No. of Employees: 11 - 50 People
Annual Sales Range (USD): US$2.5 Million - US$5 Million
Year Established: 1991
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Replying to [vicegerent]:Replying to [wilhelm]:This is a breakdown of a REAL and currently trading scam company! as witnessed by the E-Spry company E-Spry Technology (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd

Tel: +86 755 86212191
Fax: +86 755 86212192
Mobile Phone: +86 13316598659
E-mail: sales@e-spry.com
Website: http://www.e-spry.com

Such fraudulent companies as this one, calling himself many names including Mr Shaun Patrick, Patrick Lexx, Talla Patrick Moulbe, Eric or Mr Wang Chu Lin on this site in 3/06 http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/biz/4112664/looking_for_mp34.html.
and most recently E-Spry or otherwise known as L-Show on EC-21's website http://products.ec21.com/manufacturers/E-Spry.html .

this man needs to be stopped as all criminals do. It is up to those who exert authority to act.

I think displaying a registered business number is what is required, obtainable only through secure channels. Alibaba can supply this "trading number" and re-registrations by fraudsters should not be permitted.

the two points i see as most important are the company name and the proprietors name.

Replying to [tworiverstradingco]:
we received one email from alibaba.com,details as following:
acDear Sir,



We have received a notice from Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd (the “IPR Owner”) that your posting of Mini Helicopter (Model No: 1350) (the “Product”) by Saif Enterprise (H. K) Limited on the Alibaba website

http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11140615/mini_helicopter.html
http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/13300480/Mini_Helicopter.html

(the "Listing") infringes on the IPR Owner's Patent (Reg. No.: : PRC: 200530077353.3, 200630050051.1). While we are not in a position to judge the merits of the claim, Alibaba's policy is we will not aid any person in any infringing activity, and we will take action to protect you from potential legal liability. Accordingly, we have removed the Listing from the Alibaba website.



You may wish to directly take up this dispute with the IPR Owner, their contact information is as follows:-



Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd
Attn: Monic Choi (Senior Manager -Marketing)
Address: 1701-03, World Trade Centre, 280, Gloucester Road, Causeway Bay, Hong Kong
Tel: 852 2916 2328
Fax: 852 2834 8797
Email: monic@silverlit.com

Please do not post any listings or trade leads for the Product without the prior written consent of Alibaba’s Legal Department. If you post any such listings, your Company may be sued by the IPR Owner for infringement. Please ensure that the remaining product listings posted on our website do not infringe the rights of other intellectual property owners. If we receive another notice of claimed infringement regarding products posted by your Company on our website, we may permanently disable your account.



Thank you for your understanding in this matter.

Regards,

Alibaba.com Legal Department

We are suprised that the helicopter designed by our own,and the outlook and funtions,parts are differnt with the picooz from Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd.
Meanwhile,we requested Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd to provide us Patent Certificates origin,but the Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd,no people received calling,no people reply.

However,the Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd have requested to cancelled our pictures and relevant information,bring our company great damage in reputation and economic.

If the Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd will not provide relevant evidence on the issue,we have to sue and charge them on the artificial certificates,and fraud crimes,and compensate us relevant loss and damage in economic and reputation.
However,we called the Silverlit many times, no people received callings,no people reply, WHY?

the Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd is Fraud?

Replying to [ktshah]:
sorry cant agree with being on the net at 12 midnite china is 8 hours ahead of the UK so if you want to talk to china you will be on the net at what you call crazy times

Replying to [-as]:
HI THERE SORRY TO HERE YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT IT IS EURO IN DUBLIN SO WHY YOU PAY IN $

Replying to [ktshah]:
just to let u know - its almost midnight here in UK and i am online working researching etc etc - so the time frame check u suggest is totally useless.

Lots of Uk biz will be online late at night researching suppliers etc because they are too busy dealing with customers and day to day biz affairs during the usual 9am - 5pm period.

Replying to [tworiverstradingco]:Thanks very much for your article.
I think it's very useful for all of us to identify scammers. Hope all of us can union together to make a healthy business environment.

I am a Chinese girl, and my name is Yuky.May be I have a different opinion of your ways to identify scammers. From your articles you have mentioned many channels to search for related information. Such as from Google, Alibaba or other website. All of us know American have a very perfect network. But to chinese may not be so good. So I think search from the website is a way, but not the only way.

Replying to [RuiSeng]:

Please be ware !!!.
www.gleetrade.com
SCAM?

gleetrade Trade Online copyright@2002
tel: 86+010-87026811
mail: gleetrade@hotmail.com
MSN: gleetrade@hotmail.com

Replying to [khflottorp]: The main factorsof the scammers are,

1. African Countries.

2.Huge amount orders in millions of dollars, whcih you know is a Fantasy.

3.Deals in MoneyOrders & Cheques both (Fake).

4.Requires T/T fees in their own country with some non-related document requirements & service charges.

5.Show theirself as a Big Business Firm of stock retails mostly in UnitedKingdom.

All the above are the identities for the scammers.