No More Scam & Fraud Issue Now !
Post 1 of 5
Oneuni :
No more sam and fraud issue now in Alibaba Portal.
With using Ali Pay escrow payment terms.
Buyer and seller in Alibaba Mega Mall Portal portal will be secured both.
Thus, the issue of Scam and Fraud case that in a long list as shown in
Safe trading forum will be no longer as a hot issue, it will be reduced.
It is a Long and Hard way for Alibaba to dissolve the issue problem.
the Trust Worthy image that been disturb and disgrace by scam & fraud practices.
There will be no need to do a complicated and hardly way to do verification
before making transaction. as long as the terms of payment via Ali Pay is applied.
it will speed up the negotiation and settle the transaction. Both of buyer and seller
whom want to do Trade with China via Alibaba will go smooth without hesitate.
so saving time, energy and effort to do negotiation.
By Ali Pay escrow payment, the scam and fraud practices can be redeemed,
if all Aleys had proclaimed a commitment to implementing Ali Pay terms.
Than it will narrowed and close the space for scamer and fraud to take a chance.
As comparison, all of payment method that been existed are not guarantee
to secure and give protection upon any transaction to both buyer/seller.
Because, No money will gone before receiving goods for buyer
and No loosing goods before getting paid for seller.
Both will be secured and protected by Ali Pay services(escrow).
another words is "Custody" or Custodian.
However, this will not be happened without the support and commitment from
Aleys themselves, as above mentioned: must apply and do the Ali Pay terms.
For Your own Shake...do On-line trade via Escrow svc Ali Pay.!!
By Aleys, From Aleys and For Aleys !
Support Ali Pay ....
No more sam and fraud issue now in Alibaba Portal.
With using Ali Pay escrow payment terms.
Buyer and seller in Alibaba Mega Mall Portal portal will be secured both.
Thus, the issue of Scam and Fraud case that in a long list as shown in
Safe trading forum will be no longer as a hot issue, it will be reduced.
It is a Long and Hard way for Alibaba to dissolve the issue problem.
the Trust Worthy image that been disturb and disgrace by scam & fraud practices.
There will be no need to do a complicated and hardly way to do verification
before making transaction. as long as the terms of payment via Ali Pay is applied.
it will speed up the negotiation and settle the transaction. Both of buyer and seller
whom want to do Trade with China via Alibaba will go smooth without hesitate.
so saving time, energy and effort to do negotiation.
By Ali Pay escrow payment, the scam and fraud practices can be redeemed,
if all Aleys had proclaimed a commitment to implementing Ali Pay terms.
Than it will narrowed and close the space for scamer and fraud to take a chance.
As comparison, all of payment method that been existed are not guarantee
to secure and give protection upon any transaction to both buyer/seller.
Because, No money will gone before receiving goods for buyer
and No loosing goods before getting paid for seller.
Both will be secured and protected by Ali Pay services(escrow).
another words is "Custody" or Custodian.
However, this will not be happened without the support and commitment from
Aleys themselves, as above mentioned: must apply and do the Ali Pay terms.
For Your own Shake...do On-line trade via Escrow svc Ali Pay.!!
By Aleys, From Aleys and For Aleys !
Support Ali Pay ....
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05 Nov 2009 04:37
Post 2 of 5
What sense a Alipay makes, if the most wanted items that are offered with Alipay from China, if they are original, are much more expensive than in other countries ???
Of course the scammers are normally excluded, but some try it also with 1:1 or other tricky descriptions and what will Alipay do, if a customer has overseen this tricks in a offer ?
As a sample, the Nokia N 97 original one time from China with Alipay for 717 US$ =483 EUR and one time from an Ebay Powerseller for EUR 410,00 incl, VAT in Germany.
http://wholesale.alibaba.com/product-gs/263812813-5-x-100-Original-Nokia-N97-32GB-Black-Unlocked-Cellphone-Wholesale-Drop-Shipping-wholesalers.html
http://cgi.ebay.de/Nokia-N97-weiss-white-Neu-OVP-Deutsche-Ware-Navi_W0QQitemZ120443181819QQcategoryZ9355QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&customid=oesg
And for the desciption trick :
NOKIA N97 Free shipping 1:1 Nokia N97 SINGLE card dual camera mobile phone cellphone unlocked.
http://wholesale.alibaba.com/product-gs/257627773-NOKIA-N97-Free-shipping-1-1-Nokia-N97-SINGLE-card-dual-camera-mobile-phone-cellphone-unlocked-wholesalers.html
And this is equal to all other International Brands, the most searched merchandise in all Internet platforms !
Wilhelm
Of course the scammers are normally excluded, but some try it also with 1:1 or other tricky descriptions and what will Alipay do, if a customer has overseen this tricks in a offer ?
As a sample, the Nokia N 97 original one time from China with Alipay for 717 US$ =483 EUR and one time from an Ebay Powerseller for EUR 410,00 incl, VAT in Germany.
http://wholesale.alibaba.com/product-gs/263812813-5-x-100-Original-Nokia-N97-32GB-Black-Unlocked-Cellphone-Wholesale-Drop-Shipping-wholesalers.html
http://cgi.ebay.de/Nokia-N97-weiss-white-Neu-OVP-Deutsche-Ware-Navi_W0QQitemZ120443181819QQcategoryZ9355QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&customid=oesg
And for the desciption trick :
NOKIA N97 Free shipping 1:1 Nokia N97 SINGLE card dual camera mobile phone cellphone unlocked.
http://wholesale.alibaba.com/product-gs/257627773-NOKIA-N97-Free-shipping-1-1-Nokia-N97-SINGLE-card-dual-camera-mobile-phone-cellphone-unlocked-wholesalers.html
And this is equal to all other International Brands, the most searched merchandise in all Internet platforms !
Wilhelm
06 Nov 2009 19:00
Post 3 of 5
Well Opa Wihelm,
In this case, may I say that:
1. Fake or imitation goods of a brand name
this is not Ali's position to bear the Quality assurance ?
and frankly, not Alibaba produce it, neither selling it.
Ali is just such a Big Mall portal as like hyper market.
the different is this site is only advertising/showroom.
while the seller/buyer will do the nego/deal directly.
beside in the TOU or EULA before registering here,
it is clearly said it (disclaimer).
therefore, briefly asking about quality and guaranty is a must,
before buy anything as in normal way in living days.
2. Intention to buy Cheap thing ! an Anomaly behavior
It is a Natural human being behavior, to get thing cheapest !
an ancient economist tendency that everlasting saga.
-some of them, doing for big profit taking by reselling(cheating).
-some of it, buy it just for snobby, performing as if they are wealthy.
-some of them, just have it, as affordable thing, no matter what.
-some of them, are for their obsession to belong it, unreasonable.
Thus, although inside they deep heart, they knew it that those offering
are under normal, still they keep go for it, In spite of 'awareness" these
sort of domain only have a 'Cheap thing' in their mind.
The obsessions, greedy and speculation had blind them up.
This Behavior(anomaly) are exclusive exception for disclosure.
3. Lack of understanding about Policy and Distribution system
In your case of NOKIA cell, I wonder how come they sourcing it from Asia?
it is European brand and their sales & distribution system are established well.
The pricing policy and Marketing strategy had been well managed,
co-related to logistic cost's variable upon selling price in each of their sales area,
so called distribution-strategy.
No point of any reason to buy an International brand name product from
out of principal's bases area, although we know that it was made by Asia factories.
And moreover, it is not a public secret that Asia sales area are only
their second market(low end) exclude Japan. The high Q brand name
would only sell to Europe, USA and Mid East(not all state), than after
come to the post-mortem of the version/model or out of sales period
it would be dropped down to second market(Asia Africa).
If it is grand launching at once, still the Quality for second market are not Hi Q one,
continued to page 2
In this case, may I say that:
1. Fake or imitation goods of a brand name
this is not Ali's position to bear the Quality assurance ?
and frankly, not Alibaba produce it, neither selling it.
Ali is just such a Big Mall portal as like hyper market.
the different is this site is only advertising/showroom.
while the seller/buyer will do the nego/deal directly.
beside in the TOU or EULA before registering here,
it is clearly said it (disclaimer).
therefore, briefly asking about quality and guaranty is a must,
before buy anything as in normal way in living days.
2. Intention to buy Cheap thing ! an Anomaly behavior
It is a Natural human being behavior, to get thing cheapest !
an ancient economist tendency that everlasting saga.
-some of them, doing for big profit taking by reselling(cheating).
-some of it, buy it just for snobby, performing as if they are wealthy.
-some of them, just have it, as affordable thing, no matter what.
-some of them, are for their obsession to belong it, unreasonable.
Thus, although inside they deep heart, they knew it that those offering
are under normal, still they keep go for it, In spite of 'awareness" these
sort of domain only have a 'Cheap thing' in their mind.
The obsessions, greedy and speculation had blind them up.
This Behavior(anomaly) are exclusive exception for disclosure.
3. Lack of understanding about Policy and Distribution system
In your case of NOKIA cell, I wonder how come they sourcing it from Asia?
it is European brand and their sales & distribution system are established well.
The pricing policy and Marketing strategy had been well managed,
co-related to logistic cost's variable upon selling price in each of their sales area,
so called distribution-strategy.
No point of any reason to buy an International brand name product from
out of principal's bases area, although we know that it was made by Asia factories.
And moreover, it is not a public secret that Asia sales area are only
their second market(low end) exclude Japan. The high Q brand name
would only sell to Europe, USA and Mid East(not all state), than after
come to the post-mortem of the version/model or out of sales period
it would be dropped down to second market(Asia Africa).
If it is grand launching at once, still the Quality for second market are not Hi Q one,
continued to page 2
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07 Nov 2009 09:47
Post 4 of 5
pg 2 answer to Opa Wihelm:
what will Alipay do, if a customer has overseen this tricks in a offer ?
4. Unlikely Parameter of price-comparison between e-bay and Ali-express + Ali Pay
For the price's comparison, my assumption is that
e-bay is more likely person to person business not B2B (company).
It may say as like garage sale, discount sale, off sale etc
certainly that underpricing and or auction price would be on screen mostly.
it could say nearly as a the price of second hand stuff.
Beside, if the price value comparison are projecting to a brand name's merchandise.
It is not the parameter if taking the figures from prices in Alibaba.
Unless for fake/not genuine stuff for the same brand name as been stated above.
Out of the above reasons,
Assuming that it is for the same thing of the same brand name from the same producers,
The price's variable here may come from:
- Tax and duty factors from each country are differs
- Cost of Promotion and selling for each distributor/agent/seller are different too.
- delivery: air courier or shipping cost from china to buyer's place by distances.
- Services charges, for escorting and collect the payment/goods.
So above factors are pre-conditional things that can not for us to do comparison.
The random sampling to do price's analyze only can be done if the locus is in the same
market and if it is a free trade zone or can be Bonded area zone for both object observation.
5. Distinctive and Comparative advantages on products
In fact, the most effective target in sourcing goods from Alibaba are Underlines for
'China's products' resource, not other stuff of brand name and under license things.
There are so many 'China's product' with similar pieces and functions that affordable to buy,
no matter that the quality are so so. let say as middle end considering the price margin.
The comparative ones as like:
-Steel/metal products, machinery and tools,
-Foot wares, garments, and others wearing apparels.
-Electronics and electrical
-Tables ware, porcelains, ceramics and others China's ware
- Silks, fabrics and textiles range.
- Others handcrafted stuff of various materials as China's Origin.
- And many others with its distinctive and competitive points.
Therefore, be wise with the target of sourcing, to distinct and study comparison !
Simply, through Alibaba the most buying target are China brand sources ! Or China's origin
commodities(Products).
Hopefully, above short writing could be the projection on global trade on line issues for Aleys,
it is of course a bit hard to digest for Newbies, anyway I had tried to use simple words for it.
but Aleys, no late to learn, start it now ! as the future on yours !
Let's On Line. ...Aley
what will Alipay do, if a customer has overseen this tricks in a offer ?
4. Unlikely Parameter of price-comparison between e-bay and Ali-express + Ali Pay
For the price's comparison, my assumption is that
e-bay is more likely person to person business not B2B (company).
It may say as like garage sale, discount sale, off sale etc
certainly that underpricing and or auction price would be on screen mostly.
it could say nearly as a the price of second hand stuff.
Beside, if the price value comparison are projecting to a brand name's merchandise.
It is not the parameter if taking the figures from prices in Alibaba.
Unless for fake/not genuine stuff for the same brand name as been stated above.
Out of the above reasons,
Assuming that it is for the same thing of the same brand name from the same producers,
The price's variable here may come from:
- Tax and duty factors from each country are differs
- Cost of Promotion and selling for each distributor/agent/seller are different too.
- delivery: air courier or shipping cost from china to buyer's place by distances.
- Services charges, for escorting and collect the payment/goods.
So above factors are pre-conditional things that can not for us to do comparison.
The random sampling to do price's analyze only can be done if the locus is in the same
market and if it is a free trade zone or can be Bonded area zone for both object observation.
5. Distinctive and Comparative advantages on products
In fact, the most effective target in sourcing goods from Alibaba are Underlines for
'China's products' resource, not other stuff of brand name and under license things.
There are so many 'China's product' with similar pieces and functions that affordable to buy,
no matter that the quality are so so. let say as middle end considering the price margin.
The comparative ones as like:
-Steel/metal products, machinery and tools,
-Foot wares, garments, and others wearing apparels.
-Electronics and electrical
-Tables ware, porcelains, ceramics and others China's ware
- Silks, fabrics and textiles range.
- Others handcrafted stuff of various materials as China's Origin.
- And many others with its distinctive and competitive points.
Therefore, be wise with the target of sourcing, to distinct and study comparison !
Simply, through Alibaba the most buying target are China brand sources ! Or China's origin
commodities(Products).
Hopefully, above short writing could be the projection on global trade on line issues for Aleys,
it is of course a bit hard to digest for Newbies, anyway I had tried to use simple words for it.
but Aleys, no late to learn, start it now ! as the future on yours !
Let's On Line. ...Aley
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07 Nov 2009 09:56
Post 5 of 5
On line global trade with out the instrument of transaction tools is Junk ads.
Banks and other money institution is no more than a wallet, mail bag, courier
or save box. but it does not secure the transaction yet.
In fact all the payment that been doing via these existing company :
Banks, WU, Pay Pal, etc only be the horses racing of Scam fraud races.
No protection No secure !
i
New era of on line trade only effective in target hits if providing escrow payment
it will redeem scam fraud cases and increase the trust worthy.
Banks and other money institution is no more than a wallet, mail bag, courier
or save box. but it does not secure the transaction yet.
In fact all the payment that been doing via these existing company :
Banks, WU, Pay Pal, etc only be the horses racing of Scam fraud races.
No protection No secure !
i
New era of on line trade only effective in target hits if providing escrow payment
it will redeem scam fraud cases and increase the trust worthy.
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22 Nov 2009 04:50
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