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Moulds
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I am dealing with a supplier in China who is asking me to pay for the mould for a sample of a metal rack. Is this normal? How do I ensure the sample will be of good quality after spending $650 for a mould. Furthermore, how do I ensure that the mould from my design will not be sold to others?
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06 Jul 2007 07:38
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Replying to [JB-US]: Time to also pay for the services of a Chinese lawyer don't you think. You might also consider forming a HK corporation and direct your research to Chinese protection of patents of HK corporations. I invite you to read this article as well.

www.thechilli.com/articles/tradeSecrets/030_globalPatent.asp

Best regards,

Ranger
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06 Jul 2007 07:53
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Replying to [JB-US]:Dear JB, it is commen practice in China, to ask the buyer to make a mould. If you make a mould you have to make your product. And it is also not 100% confirm that your mould will be accurate.

You can find the other supplier also, who can make without mould.

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06 Jul 2007 07:56
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Replying to [JB-US]:

Hi Junaid,

Tried to send you a message, but Alibaba's software seems to have a few glitches. Could you please contact me?

Adimec
06 Jul 2007 12:43
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Replying to [JB-US]: Hi, you had asked me to contact you regarding a mould. My e-mail is zayzad@gmail.com
08 Jul 2007 05:05
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Replying to [JB-US]:

We have been involved with some moulds for our clients, and now we always make contracts with the suppliers.

The problem you need to check is the suppliers contract with the mould factory too?

We can pay for the mould but we would get the money back for the mould too after we order a qt order from the supplier.

your mould seems higher than the ones we have used, but we use the best mould factory we feel, contact me maybe we can help you. [em17]
08 Jul 2007 13:49
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Replying to [JB-US]: In dealing with suppliers in China, first check up their credentials. You should not be paying for the moulds upfront. It should only be upon the part passed your FA (First Article) inspection that you paid for the moulds. You also need to know and have this company to show ISO certification (very common now in all part of the world) so that the least we know the company meet international quality standard. In my previous employment as a Commodity Manager with a MNC, we do what we call NDA (Non Disclousure Agreement) before we starting doing business with a particular supplier so that our design cannot be copied, reproduced or modified and posed as they own. Most of my suppliers are China based manufacturers.
09 Jul 2007 01:24
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Replying to [JB-US]: Normally, we pay 30-50% of the total moulding cost in advance as down payment after we decide to use the moulding factory. If the mould turns out to be acceptable and precise, then pay the rest. if it is unacceptable because of the discrepancies, you may ask the factory to tweak it and try it again ...... until it is up to the standard specified on your mechanical drawing. Hope it is helpful [em1]
09 Jul 2007 11:26
Post 9 of 9
Moulds are one of the great headaches of the export business in my opinion.

If a mould is required then it is certainly reasonable in my opinion for a factory to expect the customer to cover the costs. Afterall the factory has to pay to make the mould and they want to ensure that these costs are covered.

The most suitable way is for the customer to cover the costs of the mould upfront, to be returned by the factory if an agreed upon order amount is reached. In that way the customer wears the upfront cost, but the factory actually covers the full cost once business proceeds.

The difficulty of course is knowing whether you can trust the factory to make the correct mould or make a mould at all. Trust, or the lack thereof, goes two ways however, and the factory needs to trust that the customer is going to be a genuine customer.

I think that the suggestion of an upfront payment of half of the mould costs seems reasonable. If the mould is correct as judged by the suitability of the samples that come from that mould as compared with the original instructions of the customer - then the customer covers the full mould costs and takes ownership of the mould. If the factory is willing to return these costs in the first order then the subject of mould ownership needs to be addressed upfront and in writing.

For all of this to work however you need to ensure that your requirements for the sample are clear. You need to establish a benchmark so that you and the supplier are clear as to what is and is not acceptable. Good clear technical descriptions and photos can be a good way to achieve this.
09 Jul 2007 18:35
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