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Post 1 of 107
I want to buy some musical Instruments from China. But can any body tell me how can I be sure that the supplier is authenticated? I've read about the scammers here. Also I want to know all costs and rules to import from China to India (Kolkata).
Regards,
Samik
Regards,
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01 Apr 2009 04:54
Post 2 of 107
maybe you can leave me a message to my email and I can help to check if possible.
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01 Apr 2009 17:46
Post 3 of 107
you can let them send the certificate and sample to check first.
01 Apr 2009 19:25
Post 6 of 107
may you success. you can search the detail information in related website.
03 Apr 2009 07:31
Post 7 of 107
you should talk with them and see how they do business with you. I believe you shall have your own judgement if they are a scammer. in this world, honest business men shall be much more than scammers.
03 Apr 2009 07:35
Post 8 of 107
Hi Guys,
Finding a scammer on Alibaba is not simple but certainly it’s not impossible as well. I have some tips for you but please don't just follow these tips blindly, its not that you cant be scammed if you follow these tips. There is certainly no benchmarking for tagging a supplier as real scammer.
I have seen cases where buyers were scammed by their suppliers who they were dealing from quite a good time.
Here we go……………….
1. Check, from how long supplier is there in market and dealing online.
2. Ask for Company registration number
3. Speak to supplier and see how confident he is in talking to you and making the deal final. If you find a supplier pushing to make payment quickly then step back.
4. Ask for reference tracking numbers for the products he shipped to his buyers. Check those tracking numbers online and see from where shipment was released and where it’s reaching/reached.
5. Ask for references, buyers email ID or phone number. Suppliers are OK to provide email ids but few provide phone number as well. Call these buyers and find out how was the product, be professional and don't ask at what rate they got it. I prefer to communicate on email, using 3rd party tool, I even track from which country and location I am receiving a reply to my email. Google for such tools, there are many.
6. Scammers offer you products at really low price and mostly they give you big discounts.
7. They offer you free shipping. International shipping is not so cheap that they can offer you free. If your order is above 1000 USD, then it makes sense to get a free shipping.
8. Real suppliers are never ready to send you a sample less than 5 pcs, so if they are ready to send you 1/2 pcs, they could be a potential scammer.
9. In China, TT, Western Union, Money Gram is the most common mode of payment but good suppliers do accept paypal as well.
10. When it comes to payment, tell them that you want to get the stuff picked up by your local agent in China from their address and he will pay cash in hand, see if they agree for it. Scammers will never agree but real supplier will agree to this.
11. Check their website, you will get a potential clue from the level of information published in there website to tag them fake or genuine.
12. Never order bulk in first dealing. Start with less number of pcs and increase the quantity as you go.
13. There are few agents in China, who can deal on your behalf with supplier and they will charge their commission. It’s good to use them.
14. Look at the address given to you by the supplier; scammers give fake address and wrong postal code.
Last but not the least, if you are in serious business, buy an air ticket and go to china for 2 weeks, buy everything you want and ship it yourself to your home country & pay cash to the supplier. You can build a business relation with these suppliers face to face and you can deal with these suppliers for any future needs.
Your 2 weeks stay and travel to china will be a very little cost and investment in your business and I feel this is the one and only way to be saved from a scam. :)
Cheers
Jeet Basson
Finding a scammer on Alibaba is not simple but certainly it’s not impossible as well. I have some tips for you but please don't just follow these tips blindly, its not that you cant be scammed if you follow these tips. There is certainly no benchmarking for tagging a supplier as real scammer.
I have seen cases where buyers were scammed by their suppliers who they were dealing from quite a good time.
Here we go……………….
1. Check, from how long supplier is there in market and dealing online.
2. Ask for Company registration number
3. Speak to supplier and see how confident he is in talking to you and making the deal final. If you find a supplier pushing to make payment quickly then step back.
4. Ask for reference tracking numbers for the products he shipped to his buyers. Check those tracking numbers online and see from where shipment was released and where it’s reaching/reached.
5. Ask for references, buyers email ID or phone number. Suppliers are OK to provide email ids but few provide phone number as well. Call these buyers and find out how was the product, be professional and don't ask at what rate they got it. I prefer to communicate on email, using 3rd party tool, I even track from which country and location I am receiving a reply to my email. Google for such tools, there are many.
6. Scammers offer you products at really low price and mostly they give you big discounts.
7. They offer you free shipping. International shipping is not so cheap that they can offer you free. If your order is above 1000 USD, then it makes sense to get a free shipping.
8. Real suppliers are never ready to send you a sample less than 5 pcs, so if they are ready to send you 1/2 pcs, they could be a potential scammer.
9. In China, TT, Western Union, Money Gram is the most common mode of payment but good suppliers do accept paypal as well.
10. When it comes to payment, tell them that you want to get the stuff picked up by your local agent in China from their address and he will pay cash in hand, see if they agree for it. Scammers will never agree but real supplier will agree to this.
11. Check their website, you will get a potential clue from the level of information published in there website to tag them fake or genuine.
12. Never order bulk in first dealing. Start with less number of pcs and increase the quantity as you go.
13. There are few agents in China, who can deal on your behalf with supplier and they will charge their commission. It’s good to use them.
14. Look at the address given to you by the supplier; scammers give fake address and wrong postal code.
Last but not the least, if you are in serious business, buy an air ticket and go to china for 2 weeks, buy everything you want and ship it yourself to your home country & pay cash to the supplier. You can build a business relation with these suppliers face to face and you can deal with these suppliers for any future needs.
Your 2 weeks stay and travel to china will be a very little cost and investment in your business and I feel this is the one and only way to be saved from a scam. :)
Cheers
Jeet Basson
04 Apr 2009 04:54
Post 9 of 107
very nice suggestions, which makes me learn a lot about how to prevent fraud.
05 Apr 2009 17:32
Post 10 of 107
Thank you for the great information. I recently purchased some products by sending the money via western union but under a fake name until I recieve the good. Now, the money is not apparent and the supplier states that the company has not recieved it. If you have any suggesstions on what to do please let me know via email Tmansour084@hotmail.com. Thanks
06 Apr 2009 14:08
Post 11 of 107
samik wrote:I want to buy some musical Instruments from China. But can any body tell me how can I be sure that the importer is authenticated? I've read about the scammers here. Also I want to know all costs and rules to import from China to India (Kolkata).
Regards,
Samik
06 Apr 2009 19:53