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Must read before looking for Nokia N95, PS3, IPhone or Ipods
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FraudWatchersDotOrg
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Then here is some possibly useful reading:

Nokia N95
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/36725/The_NOKIA_N95_SCAM_for_US_and_Canada_Members.htm
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/36713/Nokia_n95_Who_can_help_me_.htm

PS3
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/24467/All_PS3_Sallers_in_Putian_City_are_SCAMERS__All_the_Shoes_Factorys_.htm
...and do a forum search on "PS3".

iPod
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/20208/9_tips_for_buying_iPods_wholesale_.htm

iPhone
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/31924/APPLE_iPHONE__gt_Read_before_you_buy_.htm
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/31610/Do_not_belive_any_suppliers_can_presale_offers_of_Apple_iPhone_.htm
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/37290/Apple_iPhone.htm

If you are a beginner eBay trader or similar, you may also find this link helpful.

As mentioned in many places on the forum, over 90% of all brand name consumer electronics suppliers, on Alibaba and other B2B sites, are simple scams. Especially with the newest gadgets, every single thief out there will claim to have them. If you find a supplier offering prices on such items that are all 80% of retail, or less, you can safely assume it is just another scam. The margins are not this high unless you are buying very large amounts. Sometimes it can also be refurbished or even counterfeit.

Also, please do not post asking for suppliers of any item, this is considered a trade lead and is not allowed on the forums.
09 Mar 2007 11:41
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I agree, purchasing low cost MP3/MP4 players and cheap cameras here is relatively common. Buying a Brand Name item and actually receiving it is pretty unheard of. If someone sells you a PS3 for the price of a Playstation 2 in your hometown, it is more than likely a scam.
04 Apr 2007 00:13
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Replying to [Volkspeed]:you are a experienced man. support you!
05 Apr 2007 03:36
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Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:I'm not sure of those products...Thanks for your infos..[em1]
05 May 2007 09:03
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Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:Thanks for your infos.
06 May 2007 23:16
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Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:
It is very useful information. I have been scamed twice. One company called Shenzhen H.Y.E.C. Digital & Technology Co., Ltd. I bought 100 ipods from them in very cheap price and i'm still waiting my order. Its been 7 months now.

Other company called Putian Licheng District Meifeng Package Factory . I bought 8GB mp3/mp4 and they did send me mp3 playes but flash memories were hacked. The actual memry was 498MB. So please be aware of these companies.
07 May 2007 01:22
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Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:Thanks for this, I've been looking at purchasing some iPods, although only on a single test order. Is it fair to say, if I recieve the first, then I will recieve more?

Thanks
13 May 2007 12:56
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Replying to [tristan]:
You can never be sure.
There have been alot of cases where even after the second or third order is placed, thus bigger, the company will not send items and get away with the money.
I am not generalizing so please be aware with who you are dealing with.
What you could do, if it is a good amount, face to face meeting is your best bet.

Cheers
21 May 2007 14:40
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Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:
we received one email from alibaba.com,details as following:
acDear Sir,



We have received a notice from Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd (the “IPR Owner”) that your posting of Mini Helicopter (Model No: 1350) (the “Product”) by Saif Enterprise (H. K) Limited on the Alibaba website

http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11140615/mini_helicopter.html
http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/13300480/Mini_Helicopter.html

(the "Listing") infringes on the IPR Owner's Patent (Reg. No.: : PRC: 200530077353.3, 200630050051.1). While we are not in a position to judge the merits of the claim, Alibaba's policy is we will not aid any person in any infringing activity, and we will take action to protect you from potential legal liability. Accordingly, we have removed the Listing from the Alibaba website.



You may wish to directly take up this dispute with the IPR Owner, their contact information is as follows:-



Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd
Attn: Monic Choi (Senior Manager -Marketing)
Address: 1701-03, World Trade Centre, 280, Gloucester Road, Causeway Bay, Hong Kong
Tel: 852 2916 2328
Fax: 852 2834 8797
Email: monic@silverlit.com

Please do not post any listings or trade leads for the Product without the prior written consent of Alibaba’s Legal Department. If you post any such listings, your Company may be sued by the IPR Owner for infringement. Please ensure that the remaining product listings posted on our website do not infringe the rights of other intellectual property owners. If we receive another notice of claimed infringement regarding products posted by your Company on our website, we may permanently disable your account.



Thank you for your understanding in this matter.

Regards,

Alibaba.com Legal Department

We are suprised that the helicopter designed by our own,and the outlook and funtions,parts are differnt with the picooz from Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd.
Meanwhile,we requested Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd to provide us Patent Certificates origin,but the Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd,no people received calling,no people reply.

However,the Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd have requested to cancelled our pictures and relevant information,bring our company great damage in reputation and economic.

If the Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd will not provide relevant evidence on the issue,we have to sue and charge them on the artificial certificates,and fraud crimes,and compensate us relevant loss and damage in economic and reputation.
However,we called the Silverlit many times, no people received callings,no people reply, WHY?

the Silverlit Toys Manufactory Ltd is Fraud?



24 May 2007 01:23
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Replying to [safftrack]:i suggest you put up a official claim on them to alibaba,and tell alibaba to handle your issues.since these companies were verfied to be the so-called gold member,alibaba should hold responsibility for their fraud behaviour.for electronicals you can find me to buy them,but no cheap price guaranteed for i only sell the orginal electroncals.
03 Jun 2007 02:45
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Replying to [Volkspeed]:i am very agree your idea.i am very confused.why when i gave my customers a good price,but they always dont believe me and dont do business with me.sometimes,even if they got a impossible price,then i told them,the price is impossible,you dont believe.you will get scam.but they still not believe me.they thought i said that only be want to get their business.
very confused.
like honest supplier buyers,pls contact me.thanks
msn: nike3721@hotmail.com
trademanager ID: cnnike3721
waiting for your contacting.
19 Jun 2007 17:21
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