I sure  that when you get through the forum and you will see a lots of people talking about   suffering scammer.But why ?I guess , the most important is that the scammer providing a very competitive price also attractive ,and most of the buyer just emphasis on the price.If you have different ideas or better suggestion please share with me.

Quoting from [Gabor Bathori]:


Exactly. People check your prices and turn away thinking you are expensive and give their money to scammers who offer lower prices but do not give anything for that. Actually you don't lose anything if these people leave but I understand it is annoying to do quotations without end for no good.



The supply and demand of the markets do not change dramatically in a short time. However the transparency of the market and the possibility of the people to do business does increase (owing to the internet) so you perceive a growth of the market - while the basic parameters of the business remain the same.



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Hi Gabor, nice to see u here again. I have taken part in the led fair in guangzhou from Feb 28th to Mar 3th.And also i have got many many inquiries from our booth.I am very busy now.Hoping it will be a good start in this year.

Quoting from [nancygreece]:


I'm one of those who asks price first...very logic...you sell, I want to know how much!



Why is that so annoying...having to give a price offer?...if the price vs quality is good, clients buy, if your price sucks...maybe you're a scammer too than?!



Don't sell anything, or give additional info, as to why your product is expensive, but worth my while!!!



I get many offers on my buy-leads that have absolutely nothing to do with what I'm asking for...now THAT"S ANNOYING!



About scammers...I guess we are all exposed at some point...but I have found many co-traders very helpful in cases I was not sure and asked around...



Take messure and than hope for the best!

Hi Nancy,  welcome !

 In fact, i appreciate my  customer who let me do quotation As a sale that's part of our job and very normal.What i concern is that when  customer got the price at first then they will intend to contact with the cheapest one......you know that price based on the quality. I would like to chat with my customer face to face.That's why i take part in every  years led display fair .Because i can let my customer to  compare our products with others.If i just using email to say that our products are  with high quality may be customer will think "really " , they also will told me that all the suppliers said their goods are best. That's really annoying.This yearled display fair in guangzhou ,help us get some real customer.Because our products can prove everything.

Quoting from [freddyac]:

Quoting from [kobemicheal]:

Quoting from [juliagao]:

I sure  that when you get through the forum and you will see a lots of people talking about   suffering scammer.But why ?I guess , the most important is that the scammer providing a very competitive price also attractive ,and most of the buyer just emphasis on the price.If you have different ideas or better suggestion please share with me.

sometimes Misunderstanding

 

Michael

Dear All.

Its not only about the price because its well known that low price must get a problem, fake, or copy.

I am talking about my experience... maybe others is like you are shareing here.

The point is that the way how they work, the gold supplier thing, the trust whatever...

Even the value I pay was higher to ensure that the items is not fake, they did it to me.

I asked them for the original items, i asked to put the photo on the invoice, and many other details to guarrantee that these items were original, i spoke to them, i put a chinese friend in the middle to talk to them and even that they did a fraud to me.

They sent me a fake mobiles and my order were blackberrys.

So now friends, I dont beleive in any who sells in here because all thouse scammers and who are  helping them, are getting bad reputation to thouse who are not scammers...

The only way to do business is to go there and buy directly, otherwise they will cheat again.

Good luck for everybody.

Bye

Freddy

 

 

Dear Freddy, so glad to see u here. I deeply agree with what u said .Especially this one"

The only way to do business is to go there and buy directly, otherwise they will cheat again."That why  i  take part in led display  every year in guangzhou.and  to chat with my customer face to faceon my booth.Because customer can checking everything by eyes. And for me , no need to say more about my products , my products can prove many many things.If i just using email or phone that's not enough. Because some scammers also will say good quality .......

Freddy, if u have business in led display , i warmerly invite u to visit our factory in anytime.Also if April u are in china ,please visit our booth , we will take part in HK fair,April.

Our website:www.createled.com or www.createled.net also u can add my trademanager ID:cn200816202

Quoting from [juliagao]:

Quoting from [Gabor Bathori]:


Exactly. People check your prices and turn away thinking you are expensive and give their money to scammers who offer lower prices but do not give anything for that. Actually you don't lose anything if these people leave but I understand it is annoying to do quotations without end for no good.



The supply and demand of the markets do not change dramatically in a short time. However the transparency of the market and the possibility of the people to do business does increase (owing to the internet) so you perceive a growth of the market - while the basic parameters of the business remain the same.



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Hi Gabor, nice to see u here again. I have taken part in the led fair in guangzhou from Feb 28th to Mar 3th.And also i have got many many inquiries from our booth.I am very busy now.Hoping it will be a good start in this year.

Do you know something? Why don't you put the price on the article?
It's easy for us buyers, with all the information you can. You avoid wasting time giving quotes.

Quoting from [juliagao]:



Hi Gabor, nice to see u here again. I have taken part in the led fair in guangzhou from Feb 28th to Mar 3th.And also i have got many many inquiries from our booth.I am very busy now.Hoping it will be a good start in this year.

Hello,


you see, this is the right spirit! I wish you good luck with your new business year.


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Quoting from [juliagao]:

I sure  that when you get through the forum and you will see a lots of people talking about   suffering scammer.But why ?I guess , the most important is that the scammer providing a very competitive price also attractive ,and most of the buyer just emphasis on the price.If you have different ideas or better suggestion please share with me.

Hello everyone,

This is a very good question you ask, but the answer to it is quiet a tricky one.

You see the problem doesn't lie with the prices or payment terms. The actual problem lies in the TRUST, by just assuming trust on x company to do y without checking its abvious you increase your own chances of getting ripped off.

The major problem nowadays is as some members already mentioned even experienced traders are beeing scammed, actually when they get scammed they can't talk about it since they are supposed to be experienced and out of shame they don't talk about it.

In any case, most scammers on the net initially pretend to be serious buyers or sellers, note that this goes both ways for suppliers as well as buyers. But the main issue here is the mostly the party of Interest forget to do personal inspection, not of the goods but the company itself, since its bit of a hassle, and the scammers know that.

After all we all are connected via the net, but in order to inspect we still have to get out of the chair and travel, which again costs some more and that is were the majority becomes greedy and lazy, and this what most scammers take advantage of.

So please note that this is not a issue of price and quality, this is an issue of laziness and greed on the parts where one should actually spend the money.

Also don't forget that in this hard times everyone is looking for the cheapest price and the best quality.

peace out people

After having lost $2,000 in less than three weeks between seven different suppliers who claim to have authentic iPhones, I am very leary about buying iPhones.  I know that there are some honest suppliers of Authentic iPhones because so many ebayers are selling them like hotcakes.  I simply do not understand why I am having such a hard time finding suppliers of Authentic iPhones.  But one thing I have decided and that is to purchase using PayPal, Credit Card or Escrow.  No more wire transfers.  If anyone knows of supplier that really does have the iPhone and can do one of the payment methods I've mentioned, please notify me.

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Thanks



Quoting from [Firo]:

Quoting from [juliagao]:

I sure  that when you get through the forum and you will see a lots of people talking about   suffering scammer.But why ?I guess , the most important is that the scammer providing a very competitive price also attractive ,and most of the buyer just emphasis on the price.If you have different ideas or better suggestion please share with me.

Hello everyone,

This is a very good question you ask, but the answer to it is quiet a tricky one.

You see the problem doesn't lie with the prices or payment terms. The actual problem lies in the TRUST, by just assuming trust on x company to do y without checking its abvious you increase your own chances of getting ripped off.

The major problem nowadays is as some members already mentioned even experienced traders are beeing scammed, actually when they get scammed they can't talk about it since they are supposed to be experienced and out of shame they don't talk about it.

In any case, most scammers on the net initially pretend to be serious buyers or sellers, note that this goes both ways for suppliers as well as buyers. But the main issue here is the mostly the party of Interest forget to do personal inspection, not of the goods but the company itself, since its bit of a hassle, and the scammers know that.

After all we all are connected via the net, but in order to inspect we still have to get out of the chair and travel, which again costs some more and that is were the majority becomes greedy and lazy, and this what most scammers take advantage of.

So please note that this is not a issue of price and quality, this is an issue of laziness and greed on the parts where one should actually spend the money.

Also don't forget that in this hard times everyone is looking for the cheapest price and the best quality.

peace out people

Quoting from [juliagao]:

I sure  that when you get through the forum and you will see a lots of people talking about   suffering scammer.But why ?I guess , the most important is that the scammer providing a very competitive price also attractive ,and most of the buyer just emphasis on the price.If you have different ideas or better suggestion please share with me.

To All,

I really appreciated  for all of yours replied here which have do me a big favor. At here , some are sales likes me , some are buyers .I keep silent but put my heari ntoread what u have wrote here.Quotation ,Price , Quality and Reliable relations .I think a lots about those.But i still confused how to be a good sales how to let the real buyer find me ? Yeh , i quote but prinot the cheapest  one , i told my clients my products advantages but the scammers also can say that. Every time , when i think at here will deeply worry about the market , the real suppliers can not get orders , but scammers have .We have no choice but to invite our customer to visit our factory, usually its impossible for customer to visit the factory , they will told u that they have barget  for the project. Scammers and real suppliers who will win the battle? Buyers how to avoid to be scammed?

I do agree with you.

 

I do agreen with the words which JoyceJackson said on 18 floor,