We, the NETIZENS of Alibaba a.k.a. the Alibabians, pledge ourselves as one united people to purge this B2B site of all forms of Internet criminals, including the embedded spywares , illegal gambling, drug pushers, and phishing of identities.


To make it a concerted effort, not just the work of a few good-intentioned helpers, of Alibaba's staff or members of the forums who are volunteers, but should involve every single person who wants to buy something online and make transactions of his/her purchases. We have the following suggestions:


Form a volunteer group of Vigilantes, but first to scan them of their honesty and integrity, give them an identity, honor and reward their efforts with both tangible and non-tangible rewards.


1. Within your own country of residence, you are more familiar with the culture, language and Directories of business registry, local news reports and actual locations and contact numbers of the name/s of the companies. You can help to make a simple checks by verifying the authenticity of the company, by its address, phone number, Zip or Postal Codes, or even its business registry.

2. Language is the barrier to transparency - Company names registered in the Chinese Scripts are only translated and published in the English language directories. I recently found more than 3 different companies registered under the same English name, and they are at different locations, doing different business and different entity. Many Chinese companies have common singular naming convention, they usually name their company after the city or town of their residence. E.g. Great Wall Co. Ltd. or Shenzhen Electric Co. Ltd. Business license number is unique, and its authenticity can only be checked through the Government Register of Businesses and Companies within that country and State.

3. Log in the Cyber Police Website with Chinese writings keyboard, help others to search for the records of the 'targets'. Check for informations such as:

Name of Directors, phone numbers, addresses, Business license number, contact person details, banker name and address, and company profile. Main business activity and sub activity.


http://www.xiamen.cyberpolice.cn


4. Write email to Alibaba Service Team, and ask them to remove their accounts, (after you find them to be false),  For Free Members, Alibaba will have no legal responsibility, but for paid members, much evidence of scam case has to be produced.

5. Set up scam-baiters team. We were approached by these agents before, and they are a bunch of time and resource wasters, but they lure the scammers to expose their details such as the person behind the psydonyms and nicknames, with free emails and fake addresses. The only thing real is their acc. no. and beneficiary name.

6. Report all scam cases to the relevant authorities, the police, cyber police, Internet Crime Police, the Interpol, and to the Commissioner of Trade, Chamber of Commerce from that country.

Do not let them go free, they will continue to cheat, steal and rob some one else next time and every time they can find opportunity to do it.


Deepak Bakso

Quoting from [Deepak Bakso]:

We, the NETIZENS of Alibaba a.k.a. the Alibabians, pledge ourselves as one united people to purge this B2B site of all forms of Internet criminals, including the embedded spywares , illegal gambling, drug pushers, and phishing of identities.

	China has already installed Internet Police, undercover and volunteer security guards since the Cyber Revolution. The growth of Internet users is tremendous, at the rate of 100% every year, which means the number doubles every year.
	It is to the Government and the People's interest to maintain unity and stability in the nation of 1.3 billion people population. They have to watch out for dissentions, and people who would instigate racial violence, and propaganda. Read the inside information about this network. TODAY USA report entitled: The Great Firewall of China, hits out at China's 300,000 cyber intelligence agents and evesdropping system.
chin2 & cha2	This intelligence system is going commercial and one such network will be installed in Shenzhen Industrial Zone.

Websites:

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/english/200008/05/eng20000805_47390.html

Dear Sir,

this company (Romantic Starlight Garment Store) writes advertisement on alibaba that they are selling second hand laptops but they have no laptops and they are looking for some victims at alibaba. i asked mis Amy that i am willing to visit the laptops at your company and then pay and pick up the items, so she stopped the contact, they give their product price very low so that the people pay for it and never get the items.

pls check it there.

best regards thissen

Quoting from [ms1702]:


Dear Sir,


this company (Romantic Starlight Garment Store) writes advertisement on alibaba that they are selling second hand laptops but they have no laptops and they are looking for some victims at alibaba. i asked mis Amy that i am willing to visit the laptops at your company and then pay and pick up the items, so she stopped the contact, they give their product price very low so that the people pay for it and never get the items.


pls check it there.


best regards thissen

Quoting from [Deepak Bakso]:

100% FRAUDSTERS- Shenzhen Dianshang Trade Co., Ltd.

                   Shenzhen Dianshang Trade Co., Ltd. -

         THEY ARE  100% FRAUDSTERS. WE HAD LOST TOTAL SUM OF $2,520 TO THEM THIS WEEK

Two weeks ago, we were searching alibaba.com web site looking for a genuine Laptops and Apple Mac seller, when we contacted the above so-called company, ant then the so-called "BILL ZHEN" replied and convinced us that they will supply us these items.


We tried to be careful though but never knew what we were going get in at the end.


Now today after 17 days that the sellers:(1) cn200403005 ------ Jophin Zhen
(2) cn200403006 --------- Bill Zhen


 claimed to have shipped our goods, today we received a shocking delivery.


We had initially made a payment of $980 via Western Union to one Bill of  ShenzhenDianshang Trade Co., Ltd ( cn200403006) on 4th February 2009 to supply one Apple Mac Desktop and a Toshiba laptop, and after chasing them up they provided us with a tracking number .


They had delibrately used China Post surface service to delay such report as this. Without us aware of this fraud and scam, we sent yet another payment using  the same method (10th February 2009) as they will not accept other means of payment rather than Western Union, this time we paid $1,540 exactly to the same Person but the payment beneficiary has been one person:  first name- TIANFU and with a surname as-FENG to supply us with 7 extra laptops.They provided us yet another tracking number.



So today the 2nd tracking number arrived with a pair of Nike (White) canvass trainer as the content. We were completely shocked to found out that we have been scammed.


Since the date these people collected the funds, they have been ignoring our emails, online chat room attempt which has been our usual way of communicating  since inception.



PLEASE, STAY CLEAR OF THESE FRAUDSTERS!!!



Here is our email in case you have any hint as to these fraudsters


Email us at: debowa20@yahoo.co.uk

Hi.I have "buyed" a cellphones Nokia N98,but now I know that are a virtual NokiaN98.THERE IS NO NOKIA N98 ON MARKET.PEOPLE-DONT BE STUPID!I have contacted with chinese supplier Hefei ChengWei(from Shanghai-owner:Decai Kong) and writed with a thief name Jenny Lee.She has cheated all the time with the tracking number and the realisation of the deal.But when the package has come to my country,on package was illegal copy of Nokia N96.Customs Office have destroyed the cellphones,I must pay 200$ for destroying extra.I dont have nothing now-no cellphones,no money only hate for this people.Can You investigate on this case.Can this company(or the owner-because he is for sure a real men-I have payed a money  and he musted take that personaly with ID)be wanted by the international law?This is my e-mail adress:dawidn.25@interia.pl

Quoting from [debowa20E]:

100% FRAUDSTERS- Shenzhen Dianshang Trade Co., Ltd.

                   Shenzhen Dianshang Trade Co., Ltd. -

         THEY ARE  100% FRAUDSTERS. WE HAD LOST TOTAL SUM OF $2,520 TO THEM THIS WEEK

Two weeks ago, we were searching alibaba.com web site looking for a genuine Laptops and Apple Mac seller, when we contacted the above so-called company, ant then the so-called "BILL ZHEN" replied and convinced us that they will supply us these items.

We tried to be careful though but never knew what we were going get in at the end.

Now today after 17 days that the sellers:(1) cn200403005 ------ Jophin Zhen
(2) cn200403006 --------- Bill Zhen

claimed to have shipped our goods, today we received a shocking delivery.

We had initially made a payment of $980 via Western Union to one Bill of  ShenzhenDianshang Trade Co., Ltd ( cn200403006) on 4th February 2009 to supply one Apple Mac Desktop and a Toshiba laptop, and after chasing them up they provided us with a tracking number .

They had delibrately used China Post surface service to delay such report as this. Without us aware of this fraud and scam, we sent yet another payment using  the same method (10th February 2009) as they will not accept other means of payment rather than Western Union, this time we paid $1,540 exactly to the same Person but the payment beneficiary has been one person:  first name- TIANFU and with a surname as-FENG to supply us with 7 extra laptops.They provided us yet another tracking number.

So today the 2nd tracking number arrived with a pair of Nike (White) canvass trainer as the content. We were completely shocked to found out that we have been scammed.

Since the date these people collected the funds, they have been ignoring our emails, online chat room attempt which has been our usual way of communicating  since inception.

PLEASE, STAY CLEAR OF THESE FRAUDSTERS!!!

Here is our email in case you have any hint as to these fraudsters

Report your case to the International Chamber of Commerce, UK office.

Copy and paste the URL link and go to United Kingdom slot, click on Email us, and fill up the form. You may also call Mr. John Merrett or send a fax.


http://www.iccwbo.org/id107/index.html   Contact us

United Kingdom   http://www.iccuk.net/

John Merrett

Arbitration Consultant

30 Chepstow Road

London W2 5BE

Send an E-mail

Tel: +44 20 7838 9363

Fax: +44 20 7235 5447


Street Smart

Quoting from [dariusz05111986]:


Hi.I have "buyed" a cellphones Nokia N98,but now I know that are a virtual NokiaN98.THERE IS NO NOKIA N98 ON MARKET.PEOPLE-DONT BE STUPID!I have contacted with chinese supplier Hefei ChengWei(from Shanghai-owner:Decai Kong) and writed with a thief name Jenny Lee.She has cheated all the time with the tracking number and the realisation of the deal.But when the package has come to my country,on package was illegal copy of Nokia N96.Customs Office have destroyed the cellphones,I must pay 200$ for destroying extra.I dont have nothing now-no cellphones,no money only hate for this people.Can You investigate on this case.Can this company(or the owner-because he is for sure a real men-I have payed a money  and he musted take that personaly with ID)be wanted by the international law?This is my e-mail adress:dawidn.25@interia.pl

Hello i think i was cheated by the same company, can you share what you did and the outcome, i need to know what to do!!! please help



Quoting from [dariusz05111986]:


Hi.I have "buyed" a cellphones Nokia N98,but now I know that are a virtual NokiaN98.THERE IS NO NOKIA N98 ON MARKET.PEOPLE-DONT BE STUPID!I have contacted with chinese supplier Hefei ChengWei(from Shanghai-owner:Decai Kong) and writed with a thief name Jenny Lee.She has cheated all the time with the tracking number and the realisation of the deal.But when the package has come to my country,on package was illegal copy of Nokia N96.Customs Office have destroyed the cellphones,I must pay 200$ for destroying extra.I dont have nothing now-no cellphones,no money only hate for this people.Can You investigate on this case.Can this company(or the owner-because he is for sure a real men-I have payed a money  and he musted take that personaly with ID)be wanted by the international law?This is my e-mail adress:dawidn.25@interia.pl

Scammed by FRADUSTERS!!!

HUAXING Technology Group...

Adress:22F,Yongyi Pavilion,Wei Peng Garden,Zhenzhong road,Futian District,shenzhen,guangdong,China


Receiver : YIFAN XUE


Tel: 13686867813.

When I orderd I verified these guys on alibaba at http://huaxing.en.alibaba.com now this link is not working anymore. These bastards ran away. I ordered 20 units of 64GB flash drive and paid around $500 USD. I received them successfully but they are fake. When I contacted they were in touch for a week and now no more. I appreciate if somebody can take action on these cheaters.

Who is responsible for these kinds of scammers?
WANG GUOYONG PRIVATE ENTERPRISE one of the Gold Trustpass Member of Alibaba: Guoyong Wang didn’t send the goods that I have purchased and has not been refunded my money. After I reported to Alibaba.com, now their web site has been removed from the Alibaba web site. Alibaba didn’t help me to get the refund.



Alibaba only asked me to report our local authorities. But local authority does not have any powers to investigate other countries criminals.



Now these SCAMMERS have gone free with another good opportunity to steel again and again. They won't stop; they will come back again to Alibaba with another web site with different name. We need to understand this may happen again and again all the time. Who is responsible for these kinds of experienced scammers?