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Fake companies manufacturing SEGWAY SCOOTERS
Post 1 of 5
Hi folks,



During this time of economical downturns, losing your money to scams will be the most stupid thing to do, makes them rich for being a cheat, liar and thief.


I was browsing around for scams and Indonesia is my favourite spot to hunt for these s.o.b.


Did a search on the SEGWAY PT (not the word for Indonesian company, but it actually means Personal Transporter), and I found the followings:


Under search word "SEGWAY SCOOTER" and Electric Scooter, Alibaba BUY NOW search engine, I am surprise to find Indonesia tops the list of manufacturers for this item.
  1. Indonesia (1421)
  2. China (104)
  3. Hongkong (4)
  4. Australia (3)


Google search reveals that the Segway scooter was invented in USA, by a group of students on their projects in MIT, and in Germany, and other parts of the West, people were building them by DIY. But none of them are listed in Alibaba as the manufacturer. Not satisfied, I searched the Segway PT keywords, and found the Original company that commercialized this product: SEGWAY PT.



They have a distributor in Singapore, but the contact number is mobile phone, and it is:
SEGWAY PT Singapore


HT Advanced Mobility


36 Fl. UOB Plaza One Centre


80 Raffles Place,


Singapore 048624


Website: www.segway-singapore.com


I search the Alibaba website under Buy now, and amazed to find 38 pages of Indonesian suppliers of this scooter, which was only launched recently.Many of the pictures look the same, must be copied from the segway website.
  • Pelta Hati  - Fake
  • PT Inter Mezo TBK  - Fake
  • PT Freeport - Fake
  • PT Tirta Exper. No. 60 - Fake
  • Siboan Tuah Segway - Fake
  • Makmur segway Co. - Fake
  • PT Balap Liar - Fake
  • PT Kiteng (JK) - Fake
  • Info. RafliMutahir - Fake
  • PT MITRA SEJATI - Fake
  • PT ADIRATUYE (SBHD) - Fake
  • PT Segwey Scooter (USA-INA) business - Fake
  • Harangan Indo Segway - Fake
  • PT Past Mujur - Fake
  • Segwaytrust PT - Fake
  • PT CITRA KENCANA - Fake
  • MAHARIE GBC - fake
  • PT Ada Jadi Makmur - fake
  • Makmur Segway Co - fake.
  • PT Mitra sejati - fake
  • PT CERY BLUE - fake
  • PT Batax Corp - fake
  • PT Indosegway Group - fake
  • REJEKI SEGWAY TORUS - fake
  • PT Prima Anugrah Citra - fake
  • Scooter Medan Laris - fake
  • PT Rondo Machine - fake
  • Langit Biru PT - fake
  • Maratah Segway - fake
  • PT KAWAN old - the Bahasa word for old was not allowed here?/ - fake

  • PT KAMPUNG KUBUR SCOOTERS - Fake
  • PT INTER MEZO TBK - Fake
  • PT Sinar baru - Fake
  • PT Raja Singa - Fake
  • PT Pratama Sempurna - Fake
  • PT Jaya Primata Segway No 578 - Fake
  • PT GENTA BUANA JAYA no. 45 - Fake
  • PT Segway Hepeng - Fake
  • and so on and on... for 38 pages of fakes and scums.


We hit 100% fakes, which leaves us to conclude that there is NO REAL Indonesian supplier for Segway scooters.

28 Jan 2009 20:00
Post 2 of 5
Hello,


very good post, thank you. It is a good example how to use your common sense in partner verification. The problem is, people read it only AFTER they have been scammed.


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29 Jan 2009 04:01
Post 3 of 5
Quoting from [Gabor Bathori]:


Hello,


very good post, thank you. It is a good example how to use your common sense in partner verification. The problem is, people read it only AFTER they have been scammed.


The strategy is not just to warn people about scams and fake companies, but also to clean up the registry of fake companies, and prevent them from re-entry by requesting for a phone-back call. If the company is genuine, they will call back, if they are really keen, they will also call back.


The call back shall register their phone number at a Caller ID device, and with this we can know who are the people who register, and where they come from. Some may use a public phone, or the office phone of some other company to call, if there is no caller ID return, block this person from the registration form. If the phone of another company is used, a check run on the phone directory will tell.


There is a website set up by Singapore Company, Look Media Pte Ltd. They published the Green Book, an Industrial Directory here and I used them to promote our products.

They have compiled a online directory for Indonesian companies, and I have tested it, looks good and comprehensive, can find the companies that are registered as PT or CV companies, and regardless of the arrangement, either PT So and So or So and So PT.


http://www.lookindo.com


There are three tabs: Product & Services, Brand Names and Company Names. And next search filter, Company Names and a scroll down menu for Locations.


Try it for verifying Indonesian companies, you will find it useful as the first line of defense.


Joyce
29 Jan 2009 07:08
Post 4 of 5
Quoting from [James 007]:


They should be removed by the Safe Trade Admin.


Where are you?? MIA? or still on holiday?



01 Feb 2009 20:35
Post 5 of 5
Quoting from [Deepak Bakso]:

They should be removed by the Safe Trade Admin.


Where are you?? MIA? or still on holiday?

They will only remove them when someone got hit, fleeced and lifted off their Benjamin.


The report of another scam case, then another, and another.


They say in Indonesian slang "If you got Alibabaed, it means you are robbed."


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