Date: March 30, 2007
Source: China Procuratorial Daily (Held by The Supreme People's Procuratorate of PRC)
Original Chinese Version: http://www.jcrb.com/n1/jcrb1251/ca593605.htm


Translated by Sun Jin


Online swindler Li Peng can not imagine it even in his dream, that his so-called CLIENT will come from Italy thousands miles away to China to report the case to local police, for USD2100 only. In recent days, Li Peng was arrested by police under approval of Putian Procuratorate, for the reason of suspicious that he had committed a crime named Contract Fraud in PRC CRIME LAW.

In Jun. 2006, Li Peng established an online shop in a commercial B2B website, to do online-trade. In November of the year, he found SONY brand PS3 was very hot in markets world widely; he managed to get a sample PS3, and ask his clerks to post online to advertise that he has lots of PS3 in stock, and his quotation was much lower than the normal price in the market. In Dec. 22 of the year, a client from Italy got in contact with Li Peng via email, and decided to purchase 5 sets of PS3. In Jan. 2 of 2007, the Italy client wired USD2100 of payment according to mutual agreement to Li Peng's account. After Li Peng got the payment, he asked his farther to buy a pair of shoes, and couriered it to the Italy client. After the Italy client getting the courier parcel, he expressed his doubts at once. But Li Peng gave him lots of reasons such as Customs and Courier Company's working mistakes. Feb. 6, the Italian who thought he was scammed, came to Putian City, Fujian Province, to report the case to local police. (Reporter: Wang Lei, Lin Guoqiang)

Replying to [Lawyersun]:

Hope this piece of news will be helpful to guys who think counter party is a scammer, and need something to give counter party pressures.

As long as you take it seriously, you will be able to throw the scammer into JAIL.

If you would like to report it to Putian local police, plz do make it sure that you had related evidences ready. First is the evidence you had paid them. T/T WIRE or WESTERN UNION. Second is all your records of conservation with the guy. And third is what cargo you had get from the guy. And you will need to come to China in person, or entrust a lawyer.

Some telephone numbers as following:

Putian City Police Office Case Report Hotline: +86-594-110 (Online police officer maybe can not speak English)

Putian City Police Office Net-security Department
email: ptga@winmail.cn
Telephone: +86-594-2682800, 2682802 (Online police officer maybe can not speak English)
Fax: +86-594-2682803

Fujian Province Police Office
General Team of Crime Investigation
Telephone: +86-591-87094290(Online police officer maybe can not speak English)

Replying to [Lawyersun]:

PRC CRIME LAW

Article 224. Whoever, for the purpose of illegal possession, uses one of the following means during signing or executing a contract to obtain property and goods of the opposite party by fraud, and when the amount of money is relatively large, is to be sentenced to not more than three years of fixed-term imprisonment, criminal detention, and may in addition or exclusively be sentenced to a fine; or be sentenced to not less than three years and not more than 10 years of fixed-term imprisonment and a fine, if the amount of money is huge or there are other serious circumstances; or be sentenced to more than 10 years of fixed-term imprisonment or life imprisonment and a fine or confiscation of property, if the amount of money is particularly huge or there are other particularly serious circumstances:

(1) sign a contract in the name of a made-up unit or under somebody else's name;
(2) use forged, altered, or invalid negotiable instruments or other false certificates of property rights as guaranties;
(3) fulfill small-amount contracts or partially fulfill the contract, instead of actually fulfilling the contract, to inveigle the opposite party into continuing to sign and fulfill the contract;
(4) go into hiding after receiving goods, payment, advance payment, or property as guaranty from the opposite party;
(5) defraud the opposite party's property through other means.

hey i am going through the same thing with a company called wanshantrade company they sold me bogus nokia phones help a guy out please i contacted police sent letter contacted my canadian embassy, contacted hongkong post, and nokia i have yet to speak to the trade ministers office and ask him why he lets alibaba get away with not being liable for all these fraud transactions i think they are in on it because they generate revenue from these shady companys alibaba should have all there books and records check just to see how well they profit from our fake suppliers that keep them on line.....

SAME HERE.

PUTIAN WANSHAN TRADING -
Re: A LIST OF FRAUDULENT SUPPLIERS
Company Name: Putian Wanshan Trade Co., Ltd.
Contact Person: James

Address: Room 601,Building A,Yixing Garden,Beimo, Xiangcheng, Putian, Fujian, China (mainland)
Zip: 351100
Telephone: 86-594-2559919
Mobile Phone: 86-15860086608
Fax: 86-594-2559959
Website: www.wanshantrade.com
http://wanshan.en.alibaba.com
Mobile phones : NOKIA N95 $770 FAKE

IMPORTING MOBILE PHONES FROM CHINA
JUST DON'T DO IT!

I thought i had a good deal from a company called 'Putain Wanshan Trading' in Fujian. Being a gold member and Trustpass member with Alibaba.com gave me confidence in this company. But both titles dont mean a thing. Don't be conned.

I had always insisted on original Nokia, and was offer N95 for $330.00. Thinking i hit jackpot, i immediately made payment, only to find out that the mobile would be 'OEM'. Which basically means copy, and labelled Nokia.

How is this possible! anyway when i insisted on the original, i was told the price was USD$770. Having already paid, $330 i was left with no alternative but to pay remaining balance.

This is when problems started :

Putian Wanshan Trading kept saying payment was not received, when my bank informed me payment went through after few days. When i kept insisting, after 2 weeks, they admitted it arrived.

But then, surprise surprise, mobile out of stock so i had to wait few more days. I chased them every day, then they said they sent it, but we not able to give me tracking number. i pestered them again, and after a week i got a tracking number, but when i tried to trace it parcel not found.

I had been chasing them to check with EMS about shipment, 1 week after they tell me its stuck in Hong Kong due to export restrictions. Now i am told that there are some restrictions on exporting electronics outside china. They say they new about this but did not tell me about it.

And now Putian Wanshan Trading say they cannot retrieve it back - and i am unable to claim anything back. Today i found out that the only reason packages are held and destroyed and not returned from Hong Kong is because they are fake, copied goods. Can you believe it!

So unless you have money to burn, or waste JUST DON'T DO IT! Do not trust this company as they do not come up with the goods.
The staff team, including owner Mr James, will tell you anything and agree to anything in order to get your money.

I have lost $770.00, but if it means my bad experience will stop others getting conned, then at least i can say something good has come out of it.

ITS A RISKY BUSINESS, PUTIAN WANSHAN TRADING, OR ANY COMPANY OFFERING SIMILAR DEALS ARE FRAUD.
JUST DONT DO IT.

Replying to [MALTESER]:

Yes many suppliers now say OEM, so buyers need to watch out, the facts are phones in China shops are priced so high, brand names that is, chinese brands are low but the quality is not as good.

In uk you get a brand phone as pay as you go, with card and money on it, and the cost is low, and if you pay per month you get most of them free or 25% of the cost.

The same with gps, in China the cost is mad, and in UK the prices are so low with maps and card.

If suppliers in China really have these products they buy from Europe like UK.

I hope people will think more before they pay

John Borg

Replying to [MALTESER]: The problem was that the 'copy Nokia' is forgery and thus the HK customs have to confisciate the goods. If this was a real proper Nokia from a reputable dealer - there will be no problems with it. This area is notorious for such frauds and we try to avoid any dealings here as one of my customers have found to his dismay.

Replying to [Lawyersun]:That's good... I myself am a filipino-chinese with roots from fujian province... I am sorry to say but these mainland crooks are destroying the credibility of overseas chinese... They prosper everywhere, even here in the Philippines, they bring in their goods and pay no taxes leaving the poor filipino entrepreneur loosing out because of their cheaper pricing...

I just hope my fellow fujianese stop this highway robbery and do legit business. Eventually, should this continue, all businesses will be lost and all chinese will be affected....

I got scammed a few months ago from Putian Wanshan Trade Co. too. Luckily, I just ordered a sample Nokia 8800 phone for $350 first. What I got was a knock-off Nokai phone that doesn't work in the US. The contact person, Arma or Haifengliu or whatever alias he uses, guaranteed that the product was original because they supposedly were Nokia phone distributors. Naturally, all my e-mails have not been returned from the company. I should feel lucky that I even got a phone from them. From reading these forums, I see that there's alot of consumers that didn't receive anything they ordered from Putian Wanshan Trade Co. It's scammers like this that prevents me from doing business with Chinese sellers. What kind of protection do foreigners have other than flying all the way to China to get justice done?

Dear Friends;

It appears there is at least 11 companies on the list that are cheaters, but just in one glance.

On of new cheaters companies on Putian ( Fujian prov.) is the Xinlong Trade (or Huida shoes and Clothes trading co ltd). they have been cheated me around 360 USD$ for one TOSHIBA 4384 Sat notebooks while they sent me just one fake 8800i chinese phone, just after around 1 month and behind of my forces.!!!

Our company have several agent in china. One of our agnet tell me that most of Chinese cheater companies are located on Putian ( FUJIAN PROV.), so most of chinese companies dont even establish any business relatrion with the fujain companies.

So, please be ware about your recent business to prevent of lose your life ( Especially about FUJIAN- PUTIAN companies) !!!!

Regards,

Replying to [MALTESER]: totally confirm scamming. I'm really sorry i didn't see this page before i paid them 880 usd for laptop almost two weeks ago. First i was told they are checking the money, then disappeared, then gave me wrong tracking number and disappeared again. The manager was very polite and always available online before i reported the payment and then it became very hard to catch him online, other collegues who are still online say only one thing - you have to talk with him directly, i know nothing about your business with him. Unbelievable, never thought somebody doing biz for company can say it with serious face. Very very bad thing - you not only waste your money with them, you waste your time if ever start with them.
Never do biz with putians - root of scammers and "copy-masters" - every putian company selling laptops and mobiles established not more than 2-3 month ago, just have a look to their "trust passes", same as their web-sites domains(non-alibaba) registered, see http://www.whois.org
Unfortunatly i know it only now