In less than four hours the New Year's noise will start, so it's just the right time to comment on a situation.
Over the last few years I have tried a few times to do business with Vietnam, but so far without any success. Everytime I was just brushed off with a pretty arrogant attitude. First I was wondering what I did wrong, then I was wondering what they might have perceived as being wrong, but by now I'm simply clueless.
Of course each country has its own culture, but so far I have managed to stay away from problems in this regard with people from many other countries, including Asian countries (suspecting that these cultures have a few details in common). Only with Vietnam I have problems. Anybody has a clue what it could be?
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Quoting from [germex]:In less than four hours the New Year's noise will start, so it's just the right time to comment on a situation.
Over the last few years I have tried a few times to do business with Vietnam, but so far without any success. Everytime I was just brushed off with a pretty arrogant attitude. First I was wondering what I did wrong, then I was wondering what they might have perceived as being wrong, but by now I'm simply clueless.
Of course each country has its own culture, but so far I have managed to stay away from problems in this regard with people from many other countries, including Asian countries (suspecting that these cultures have a few details in common). Only with Vietnam I have problems. Anybody has a clue what it could be?
This country has gone through the recent war in 1960s and they are only beginning to open up their economy to foreign investments.
We have met several Vietnamese who are in the business, but there are not many industries that are related to our kind of business, we only deal with the ship building company, and there is only one that is applicable to our type of business, they are in Hanoi.
Vietnam exports coffee, and is one of the biggest producer in the world. If you are thinking of buying coffee, then it would be good to keep in touch with them, however, they do not do business on Internet, neither through emails, they still prefer the traditional way of a handshake and face-to-face meeting.
Depends on whether you are buying or selling, and what product or commodity are you dealing with.
SS
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Thanks for sharing your insight! I already guessed the cultural difference, but didn't quite know how toadapt to it. What surprised me one day was a very candid des-crip-tion (Alibaba still doesn't like this word) of their culture by the government party of Vietnam. It wasn't quite enough to make me successfull, but I was impressed.
Regarding the war part, I almost became a casualty of WWII myself, so I understand their feelings and thought it would be good to address that somehow. Therefore in my last contact attempt I made it clear that I am a Mexcian citizen. Don't know if it was this that made the difference, but this time I got a nice reply.
Let's keep trying! After all they are also our "brothers" somehow, and therefore should be an integral part of our international trading community.
Have you tried taking them out for a meal, accompanied by women who are not their spouse, shower them with booze and hand over some money in brown envelop.
Quoting from [have a lot of demandjadedev]:I didn't know that Vietnam was one of the Mexican states...Have you tried taking them out for a meal, accompanied by women who are not their spouse, shower them with booze and hand over some money in brown envelop.
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Hi, I was there too last month, However it seems since their production is limited so it has been covered / reserved by some companies, who actualy market or sell in their country.
so unless demand reduces or any reason occurs for them to offer, u may kip regular contacts with them.
Best wishes.
Quoting from [Street Smart]:Quoting from [germex]:In less than four hours the New Year's noise will start, so it's just the right time to comment on a situation.
Over the last few years I have tried a few times to do business with Vietnam, but so far without any success. Everytime I was just brushed off with a pretty arrogant attitude. First I was wondering what I did wrong, then I was wondering what they might have perceived as being wrong, but by now I'm simply clueless.
Of course each country has its own culture, but so far I have managed to stay away from problems in this regard with people from many other countries, including Asian countries (suspecting that these cultures have a few details in common). Only with Vietnam I have problems. Anybody has a clue what it could be?
To do business in Vietnam is a different approach as compared with Western culture. You dont talk business straight away, you need to make friends first.
This country has gone through the recent war in 1960s and they are only beginning to open up their economy to foreign investments.
We have met several Vietnamese who are in the business, but there are not many industries that are related to our kind of business, we only deal with the ship building company, and there is only one that is applicable to our type of business, they are in Hanoi.
Vietnam exports coffee, and is one of the biggest producer in the world. If you are thinking of buying coffee, then it would be good to keep in touch with them, however, they do not do business on Internet, neither through emails, they still prefer the traditional way of a handshake and face-to-face meeting.
Depends on whether you are buying or selling, and what product or commodity are you dealing with.
SS
Quoting from [fivment]:Hi, I was there too last month, However it seems since their production is limited so it has been covered / reserved by some companies, who actualy market or sell in their country.
so unless demand reduces or any reason occurs for them to offer, u may kip regular contacts with them.
Best wishes.
Quoting from [Street Smart]:Quoting from [germex]:In less than four hours the New Year's noise will start, so it's just the right time to comment on a situation.
Over the last few years I have tried a few times to do business with Vietnam, but so far without any success. Everytime I was just brushed off with a pretty arrogant attitude. First I was wondering what I did wrong, then I was wondering what they might have perceived as being wrong, but by now I'm simply clueless.
Of course each country has its own culture, but so far I have managed to stay away from problems in this regard with people from many other countries, including Asian countries (suspecting that these cultures have a few details in common). Only with Vietnam I have problems. Anybody has a clue what it could be?
To do business in Vietnam is a different approach as compared with Western culture. You dont talk business straight away, you need to make friends first.
This country has gone through the recent war in 1960s and they are only beginning to open up their economy to foreign investments.
We have met several Vietnamese who are in the business, but there are not many industries that are related to our kind of business, we only deal with the ship building company, and there is only one that is applicable to our type of business, they are in Hanoi.
Please be advised that doing business in Vietnam, you need a person (broker) who has a powerful contacts. It is better do busness with that broker or partner than try to do it yourself! Thereare a lot of politic and face trust to do business in Vietnam. I have sign a lot of contract t for export , import and investment in Vietnam. Vietnam can produce and export may things not just coffee. Question ? send me your information to: director@universalbestservices.com
Quoting from [tomSadipour]:Quoting from [fivment]:Hi, I was there too last month, However it seems since their production is limited so it has been covered / reserved by some companies, who actualy market or sell in their country.
so unless demand reduces or any reason occurs for them to offer, u may kip regular contacts with them.
Best wishes.
Quoting from [Street Smart]:Quoting from [germex]:In less than four hours the New Year's noise will start, so it's just the right time to comment on a situation.
Over the last few years I have tried a few times to do business with Vietnam, but so far without any success. Everytime I was just brushed off with a pretty arrogant attitude. First I was wondering what I did wrong, then I was wondering what they might have perceived as being wrong, but by now I'm simply clueless.
Of course each country has its own culture, but so far I have managed to stay away from problems in this regard with people from many other countries, including Asian countries (suspecting that these cultures have a few details in common). Only with Vietnam I have problems. Anybody has a clue what it could be?
To do business in Vietnam is a different approach as compared with Western culture. You dont talk business straight away, you need to make friends first.
This country has gone through the recent war in 1960s and they are only beginning to open up their economy to foreign investments.
We have met several Vietnamese who are in the business, but there are not many industries that are related to our kind of business, we only deal with the ship building company, and there is only one that is applicable to our type of business, they are in Hanoi.
Please be advised that doing business in Vietnam, you need a person (broker) who has a powerful contacts. It is better do busness with that broker or partner than try to do it yourself! Thereare a lot of politic and face trust to do business in Vietnam. I have sign a lot of contract t for export , import and investment in Vietnam. Vietnam can produce and export may things not just coffee. Question ? send me your information to: director@universalbestservices.com
I am Vietnamese with more than 8 years working with other people from Western and Asia so I know about your difficulties in doing businesses here. Send me an email if you need some one to share.
Email: thai@sbc-bizmatch.com.vn
Regarding the war that was inflicted on Vietnam, I understand very well how the Vietnamese people are feeling. Today it's been 64 years that Dresden was totally destroyed when Germany had already lost the war. You can read more about it here: http://rense.com/general85/de23.htm That happened approximately the day I was born in a neighboring city.
My surprise is that after about four decades the past war still keeps Vietnam from developing and making contact with other countries. I've met German traders who had been prisoners of war in Ukraine and two weeks after being released and sent back to Germany they started trading... with Ukraine!
Germans don't tend to look back, and that seems to be an advantage when it comes to doing international business. At the same time, it seems to be also the reason it's so hard for me to understand why Vietnam appaears to be still at war - mentally. I would like to do business with that country and thus do my part in helping them develop, but as long as the doors are closed I don't know how to do that.