RUSSIAN OIL SCAMS: Transneft fee scam from fake Russian Oil Sellers

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Replying to [oilyx]:How can I check the company Malwatu .. HAVING OFFICE IN HONGKONG, 4 SEASON PLACE?


Kongkong registered. Marketing arm of GAZPROM 2

gaz prom uk told me that they do not supply d2 or M-100 any where. they sell Natural gas for heating and cooking.

i am verry angry with suppliers who lied to me and waist my time

4KINGS IMPORT EXPORT

MR Paul Burgess

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Thanks for your reply.

.1. If the quantities are already booked or available for trade?
I mean, you say, the refineries are booked with 50-100% advance deposits. How the newbie buyers buy in the market? Is there any real allocation holders (as they claim) to sell?

I can`t understand this question.

2. I am having a buyer who looks for 5000MT fuel oil on drums CIF India. Is the quantity workable?

3. People offer 5 to 10 million MT as spot deal on FOB Rotterdam or Houston. Is that quantity possible for storage or handling?

4. What could be the monthly output of D2 from Russia+CIS?

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Thanks for your reply.
You are welcome

1. If the quantities are already booked or available for trade?
I mean, you say, the refineries are booked with 50-100% advance deposits. How the newbie buyers buy in the market? Is there any real allocation holders (as they claim) to sell?

"Newbies" can buy the product under two different ways:
1. From well-known brokerage companies on the market.
2. When these "newbies" will be introduced on the market on any crude oil and petroleum products conferences by themselves and by others well-known players on the market.
In both cases these "newbies" have to have own funds for buy out the product.
Without it You are wasting Your time and You can hope on some good luck.
These are two real ways to be real player on the market.
Of course here we could have third variant: if You are co-owner of petroleum company, in this case You can sell the products under comfortable (for Your trading company) conditions.

2. I am having a buyer who looks for 5000MT fuel oil on drums CIF India. Is the quantity workable?
The quantity is OK but I`m really doubt that You`ll get it in drums and on CIF.
First of all the price will be huge (logistic plus packaging). I have connections with MPower company from India but I can tell You that when I`ve calculated all logistic expenses of delivery the product on CIF JNPT the price increased for end client till formula Platts FOB Singapore CST 180 plus 50 USD per MT.
I`m sure that You can find such volume but on FOB or DAF conditions only.
I have one question. What`s the problem do not make this deal with iranian companies? Iranian crude oil contains huge %% of sulphur and iranian refineries make a lot of fuel oil because its equipment can`t refine in light petroleum products more than 50-55%% of total volume of crude oil. For example from one MT of crude oil, iranian refineries can make just 550 ltrs of light petroleum products, other is fuel oil and bitumen.


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3. People offer 5 to 10 million MT as spot deal on FOB Rotterdam or Houston. Is that quantity possible for storage or handling?
First of all, ask Yourself "who has such huge volume?".
Then go to Rotterdam and Huston ports website and You`ll find easy that total storing volume of Rotterdam`s port is 21,7 Mio MT (if I`m not mistaken). BUT don`t forget that it`s total volume for ALL clients and not for one. Then check what kind fees these ports take for storing, for what kind term they are ready to provide storing services, etc.
Then ask Yourself, why such huge offer walks around i-net and majors don`t know about it. And what`s more interesting, just imagine that majors know nothing about "miracle" prices. Do You really think that on this tight market major don`t know about it and You are lucky man who received this surprise from God? :)
Be real and trust Your eyes and brains (excluding greedy and dreams). You`ll find easy that such offers are real crap and most biggest bullshit.




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4. What could be the monthly output of D2 from Russia+CIS?
Well, I can tell You what`s average weekly capacity of gasoil in Russia. It`s 1,2 Mio MT. Meanwhile CIS countries produce this product too. But what`s the sense to know it IF:
1. Kazakhstan forbidden to export light petroleum products till 1 Sep.
2. Turkmenistan sells gasoil not more than 50.000 per lot with range of supplying 4-6 Months. Why? Because here we have logistic problems. Serious problems.
3. Azerbaijan sales I`ve posted above. So You can create Your own picture of its possibilities.
4. Uzbekistan produces not so much but the quality is not acceptable for most of european and asian markets.
5. Baltic countries, Belorussian refineries work with russian crude oil only and their producing capacity decreasing in last time (especially in Baltic countries, former USSR republics).
6. Ukranian refineries are property of TNK-BP, Naftogas Ukraine, Tatneft companies. Kremenchug has problems because ukranian guys made decision to take back this refinery from Tatneft illegally, because they (ukranian guys) just want this refinery. After this moment transneft and Tatneft have stop to supply crude oil by pipeline on this refinery and this refinery stays and works on small capacity. Total crude oil refining capacity on Ukraine (all refineries) is 51 Mio MT, but during this year all refineries refined just 12 or 13Mio MT (during 6 months). How I can calculate total capacity of gasoil I don`t know but we can suppose that it not more than 5-6Mio MT of gasoil (in the best case).

Anyway don`t forget that in all these countries people live. Their name is citizens of these countries and most of them are using gasoil, gasoline, kerosene, mazut. So You have take in consideration that mentioned above volumes are not for export totally. Especially that inside country (Russia) we have the prices near world prices for petroleum products. Of course it a little bit lower but not like "i-net traders" represent.

For example, Gasoil in Russia on FCA refinery conditions costs 26200 RUR per MT (1 USD = 23,5 RUR).

Make Your own conclusions.

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Your answers are informative. When I went through the major Russian oil traders , majority of them are placed in switzerland or other income tax free zones. Any special reasons?

You are lucky man :).. I`ve came online just a minute ago and checked Your reply on my huge posts. A lot docs collected during 24 hours and I`ve just finished most part of them.
Ok. Let`s continue.
You are not correct when You told that most major RUSSIAN oil traders are placed in Swiss.
NOT RUSSIAN :).. I know about just one REAL BIG (Gunvor of course) and several smaller INTERNATIONAL TRADERS OF RUSSIAN PETROLEUM PRODUCTS which placed in Swiss.
First reason it`s taxes. (UPD. and of course banking secrecy)
Second reason it`s that foreign countries banking policy is too safety and comfortable for most traders (who have roots in Russia). Interest rates, compliance procedure etc.
For example: our credit rates here are too huge (18-20%% in Rubles and 8-12% in USD). Most real transactions (deals) have to be made with "fast credit" help.
I have offshore company registered on BVI (it`s Vivaldo SA of course).
I have account in TOP 5 bank. But I think to change my existing bank (or open new account) in BNP Paribas for such things ("fast credtis/short-term credit line").
I think that it`s main reason for most traders. Short-term credits and low rates.
Third reason it`s regulation and trust from customers side. What kind bank is more safety and trustable for Your clients? Domestic (indian, chinese, russian, ukranian etc)? Or big international bank which has enough assets (as the guarantee from any "surprises") and reputation?
I think that correct answer is placed on front.

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Russia’s oil export duty may rise to over $495/tn from Aug 1

MOSCOW, June 30 (Prime-Tass) -- Russia’s oil export duty may rise to over U.S. $495 per tonne starting August 1 from the current $398.1 per tonne, Alexander Sakovich, the deputy director of the Finance Ministry's customs and tariffs department, told Prime-Tass Monday.

The duty on exports of light oil products may increase to $345 per tonne from $280.5 currently, while the duty on exports of heavy oil products may increase to $186 per tonne from $151.1 currently.

The final duties are expected to be set on Tuesday.

The government revises export duties for oil and oil products every two months based on its estimates of average world oil prices.

The export duty on light oil products applies to benzene, toluene, xylene, propane, butane, ethylene, propylene, butylene, butadiene, and other liquefied gases, gasoil and light and medium distillates.

The export duty on heavy oil products applies to heating oil, lubricants and other oils, waste oil products, petrolatum, various kinds of wax, petroleum coke and bitumen.

On January 12, 2007, Russia and Belarus agreed a scheme to calculate the export duty on Russian crude oil supplies to Belarus. According to the agreement on the regulation of trade and economic cooperation pertaining to export of oil and oil products, Belarus is supposed to unify the rate of export duties on oil and oil products with Russia.

The rate of the export duty for Belarus in 2008 makes 0.335 of the Russian export duty on crude oil delivered to countries outside the CIS.