RUSSIAN OIL SCAMS: Transneft fee scam from fake Russian Oil Sellers
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To all buyers of Russian Oil Products:
Do not pay any upfront Transneft fee to Russian Sellers under no circumstances.
There is a well organized Russian crime network made of many so-called Russian independent sellers or seller's mandates,all of them advertising on Alibaba.com but their leader is posing as the Presient of Transneft, the Russian State Pipeline monopoly, issuing fake Transneft documents including Invoice with Transneft bank accounts (which really belong to the scammers), Affidavit and contracts. He uses the following email addresses: simonbainshtock@mail.ru and bainshtocksm@mail.ru. All deceptive email addresses from a Russian free mail server using the name of a legitimate Russian official to fool foreigners who think that they are dealing with the head of Transneft. We learned that he also uses the alias: Sergey Dmitriev.
Buyers from many countries have been victimized by these scammers and they are still in business.
These people are not selling oil. Their business is to scam foreign oil buyers for upfront Transneft fees.
DO NOT SEND THEM MONEY, YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE OIL AND WILL LOSE ANY MONEY THAT YOU SEND THEM.
We have paid Transneft fees for over 8 contracts and have lost all that money
Their contracts usually include Cell phone as seller's phone, fake ****, fake SWIFT code, fake email addresses, fake bank officer who is usually an individual who is part of a scam.
All phone and email messages that the buyer sends to the seller's bank go to people working for the scam not to the bank.
Some of these companies are fictitious and do not even legally exist.
When they provide Transneft invoice and other documents, if you ask for verification, they will put you in contact with fake Transneft officials including someone who claimed that he is the President of Transneft and a close friend of President Putin. All of These people are also part of the scam and no really who they claim to be.
They used to provide an invoice for payment to be wired to Alfa Bank or Russian Standard Bank in behalf of Transneft pipeline or Transneft Trustees; Not True. They have people inside Alfa Bank, Russian Standard bank and other Russian banks to divert the money to them.
Nowadays, they use Russian Standard Bank and other banks with the money going to an individual who supposes to be a Transneft Trustee but is part of the gang. Their fee went from $28,000.00 last year to $30,000.00 now per 500k contract.
They will make you believe that you are getting a god deal because you suppose to pay both the internal and external fees upfront but because of their special relationship with the President of Transneft, they will arrrange an exemption for you to only pay the Internal fee. All scam talk. The following companies are part of the scam: Alduke Holdings-Sibneftprom, Soyuz Corporation, Igion Oil, Icon oil & Gas, Rusneftprom, Golden Oil, Zorin Energy Resources.
If you pay them once, they will ask you to submit more contract before they can perform on your first contract because they must meet internal Transneft quota before they can deliver any PB or POP to you. If you insist, they will put you in touch with the fake President of Transneft who claims to be Mr. Boishtoc himself, to tell you that the Russian seller is in good standing with Transneft but you must deliver more contract to them so that they can meet their Transneft quota.
Avoid individuals like Nikolai Gubin from Alduke Holdings, Andrei Shaika from Soyuz Corp and Rusneftprom. In the case of Alduke, after you pay, they will then tell you that they have back tax problems with the government and cannot perform until this problem is resolved and will try to have the tax problem confirmed by the fake Transneft President who is really the ring master. This Master Scammer will not only confirm that Alduke or any of scammers is a good seller but will ask you to advance Million dollars in cash (to be wired to a bank that they will provide) to him so that he can get Russian officials to help Alduke so that you can get your oil. Right but not in this lifetime !!!! Just tell this guy to send you a certified copy of his passport as Mr. Boishtoc, the head of Transneft, so that you can verify it with the Russian Embassy before you send him the Million in cash that he is asking for. He will tell you that he is very offended by that request and will hang up the phone quickly.
These scammers will object to you visiting Moscow to personally make payment to Transneft Bank then move to LC in exchange for PB/POP documents there.
No matter what you do, do not pay them upfront fees and do not accept any procedure where you have to pay large upfront sum to get the deal started. Once you pay and pay, there is no way to get your money back and recover the lost time. The fake Mr. Boishtoc from Transneft will tell you that Transneft has met their obligations and that you are now liable for the additional external fee of $150,000.00 per contract and that you should address your concerns with the Russian seller.
Things to do to avoid these scams:
1.- Always contact your country's embassy in Moscow for help on screening Russian sellers.
2.- Ask your embassy to recommend a local lawyer to screen and verify any document that you receive from Moscow.
3.- Get your lawyer to invite you to Moscow to verify all documents issued by your seller and to visit your seller.
4.- Get the seller to move first by issuing PB from reputable Russian Bank with a major Foreign corresponding bank and Vessel Charter Party Agreement verifiable through your lawyer in Moscow.
There is no scam without a Bank. Check the seller's bank listed on the contract. Bank uses their own mail server so if given bank email address shows a different mail server then be concerned. Call the bank. Bank officer should use a land line for their phone number not cell phone
Serious and sucessful sellers should not have any need to collect Transneft fees upfront from you once you show then preliminary proof of fund via BCL or soft probe. Only scammers want to see your money first, because their business is to collect these fees,not to sell oil. Furthermore, once you send them one payment, they tell you that they have a quota and that you need to send them more deals before they can accept your Pre-advice LC or issue PB.
Even if you ask them to sign a promisory note to return the money in case of non-performance, they will do it because you have no way of collecting that money back from them.
Do not accept any document from these people unless you have a way of verifying it independently. They are master forgeurs for all sort of refinery and government documents.
They use a lot of Seller's mandate all of over the world to bring them business. The Russian mandates are part of the scam but foreign mandates are usually innocent victims who think that they are representing a legitimate Russian seller.
Happy Trading !!!br/>
Please don't be afraid to share your scam stories !!! Scammers use the same scheme over and over because their victims do not speak out
Your story will help weeding out scammers from the business. It is not just about the money, it is about detecting these scams soon enough to avoid wasting time.
NOTE: Since this article was initially posted here, there have been some new company listings on Alibaba.com (Lukhoilsandgas, Golden Oil,....)presenting themselves as mandates for Russian companies like RUSNEFTPROM.
My personal recommendation is not to do business with any mandate or company that lists relationship with Alduke Holdings-Sibneftprom, RUSNEFPROM or any of the companies listed above in this article.
The real test is for you to get a copy of their procedure, they all require upfront fee from the buyer for Transneft fee before they issue PB, POP, or show any oil or SGS report or proof of previous deals where that have actually ship any oil to anybody.
Do not pay any upfront Transneft fee to Russian Sellers under no circumstances.
There is a well organized Russian crime network made of many so-called Russian independent sellers or seller's mandates,all of them advertising on Alibaba.com but their leader is posing as the Presient of Transneft, the Russian State Pipeline monopoly, issuing fake Transneft documents including Invoice with Transneft bank accounts (which really belong to the scammers), Affidavit and contracts. He uses the following email addresses: simonbainshtock@mail.ru and bainshtocksm@mail.ru. All deceptive email addresses from a Russian free mail server using the name of a legitimate Russian official to fool foreigners who think that they are dealing with the head of Transneft. We learned that he also uses the alias: Sergey Dmitriev.
Buyers from many countries have been victimized by these scammers and they are still in business.
These people are not selling oil. Their business is to scam foreign oil buyers for upfront Transneft fees.
DO NOT SEND THEM MONEY, YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE OIL AND WILL LOSE ANY MONEY THAT YOU SEND THEM.
We have paid Transneft fees for over 8 contracts and have lost all that money
Their contracts usually include Cell phone as seller's phone, fake ****, fake SWIFT code, fake email addresses, fake bank officer who is usually an individual who is part of a scam.
All phone and email messages that the buyer sends to the seller's bank go to people working for the scam not to the bank.
Some of these companies are fictitious and do not even legally exist.
When they provide Transneft invoice and other documents, if you ask for verification, they will put you in contact with fake Transneft officials including someone who claimed that he is the President of Transneft and a close friend of President Putin. All of These people are also part of the scam and no really who they claim to be.
They used to provide an invoice for payment to be wired to Alfa Bank or Russian Standard Bank in behalf of Transneft pipeline or Transneft Trustees; Not True. They have people inside Alfa Bank, Russian Standard bank and other Russian banks to divert the money to them.
Nowadays, they use Russian Standard Bank and other banks with the money going to an individual who supposes to be a Transneft Trustee but is part of the gang. Their fee went from $28,000.00 last year to $30,000.00 now per 500k contract.
They will make you believe that you are getting a god deal because you suppose to pay both the internal and external fees upfront but because of their special relationship with the President of Transneft, they will arrrange an exemption for you to only pay the Internal fee. All scam talk. The following companies are part of the scam: Alduke Holdings-Sibneftprom, Soyuz Corporation, Igion Oil, Icon oil & Gas, Rusneftprom, Golden Oil, Zorin Energy Resources.
If you pay them once, they will ask you to submit more contract before they can perform on your first contract because they must meet internal Transneft quota before they can deliver any PB or POP to you. If you insist, they will put you in touch with the fake President of Transneft who claims to be Mr. Boishtoc himself, to tell you that the Russian seller is in good standing with Transneft but you must deliver more contract to them so that they can meet their Transneft quota.
Avoid individuals like Nikolai Gubin from Alduke Holdings, Andrei Shaika from Soyuz Corp and Rusneftprom. In the case of Alduke, after you pay, they will then tell you that they have back tax problems with the government and cannot perform until this problem is resolved and will try to have the tax problem confirmed by the fake Transneft President who is really the ring master. This Master Scammer will not only confirm that Alduke or any of scammers is a good seller but will ask you to advance Million dollars in cash (to be wired to a bank that they will provide) to him so that he can get Russian officials to help Alduke so that you can get your oil. Right but not in this lifetime !!!! Just tell this guy to send you a certified copy of his passport as Mr. Boishtoc, the head of Transneft, so that you can verify it with the Russian Embassy before you send him the Million in cash that he is asking for. He will tell you that he is very offended by that request and will hang up the phone quickly.
These scammers will object to you visiting Moscow to personally make payment to Transneft Bank then move to LC in exchange for PB/POP documents there.
No matter what you do, do not pay them upfront fees and do not accept any procedure where you have to pay large upfront sum to get the deal started. Once you pay and pay, there is no way to get your money back and recover the lost time. The fake Mr. Boishtoc from Transneft will tell you that Transneft has met their obligations and that you are now liable for the additional external fee of $150,000.00 per contract and that you should address your concerns with the Russian seller.
Things to do to avoid these scams:
1.- Always contact your country's embassy in Moscow for help on screening Russian sellers.
2.- Ask your embassy to recommend a local lawyer to screen and verify any document that you receive from Moscow.
3.- Get your lawyer to invite you to Moscow to verify all documents issued by your seller and to visit your seller.
4.- Get the seller to move first by issuing PB from reputable Russian Bank with a major Foreign corresponding bank and Vessel Charter Party Agreement verifiable through your lawyer in Moscow.
There is no scam without a Bank. Check the seller's bank listed on the contract. Bank uses their own mail server so if given bank email address shows a different mail server then be concerned. Call the bank. Bank officer should use a land line for their phone number not cell phone
Serious and sucessful sellers should not have any need to collect Transneft fees upfront from you once you show then preliminary proof of fund via BCL or soft probe. Only scammers want to see your money first, because their business is to collect these fees,not to sell oil. Furthermore, once you send them one payment, they tell you that they have a quota and that you need to send them more deals before they can accept your Pre-advice LC or issue PB.
Even if you ask them to sign a promisory note to return the money in case of non-performance, they will do it because you have no way of collecting that money back from them.
Do not accept any document from these people unless you have a way of verifying it independently. They are master forgeurs for all sort of refinery and government documents.
They use a lot of Seller's mandate all of over the world to bring them business. The Russian mandates are part of the scam but foreign mandates are usually innocent victims who think that they are representing a legitimate Russian seller.
Happy Trading !!!br/>
Please don't be afraid to share your scam stories !!! Scammers use the same scheme over and over because their victims do not speak out
Your story will help weeding out scammers from the business. It is not just about the money, it is about detecting these scams soon enough to avoid wasting time.
NOTE: Since this article was initially posted here, there have been some new company listings on Alibaba.com (Lukhoilsandgas, Golden Oil,....)presenting themselves as mandates for Russian companies like RUSNEFTPROM.
My personal recommendation is not to do business with any mandate or company that lists relationship with Alduke Holdings-Sibneftprom, RUSNEFPROM or any of the companies listed above in this article.
The real test is for you to get a copy of their procedure, they all require upfront fee from the buyer for Transneft fee before they issue PB, POP, or show any oil or SGS report or proof of previous deals where that have actually ship any oil to anybody.
09 Apr 2007 17:58
Post 2 of 696
Quoting from [smarco]:Quoting from [seth75]:You can not buy ANY RUSSIAN FUEL,it is all sold out for years by rolls ower.
Replying to [smarco]:
27 Apr 2008 15:11
Post 3 of 696
Do you know about "Orison Oil Company" ?
I try to find out more imformation but could not.
Should you give some advice to me for this matter?
Thanks
I try to find out more imformation but could not.
Should you give some advice to me for this matter?
Thanks
28 Apr 2008 21:11
Post 4 of 696
Hello. It is good that someone has come to defend your company, because i was getting the impression that i should not deal with russian companies. Anyway, i would like to know if you do sell directly to buyers or thru some one else as mandate? If you do sell please get in touch with me thru my email.
Quoting from [sogaz]:
Gentlemen,
Sogaz oils is alegitimate oil producing company, established since 1982 with eight refineries in regions of Russia.
we recently faced a great shock of seeing people from different places using our company names to fraud people in the name of paying Transneft fees which we have never asked on behalf Transneft (government pipeline company). We have our own pipeline and has been using our own pipeline for transportations of products to our numerous buyers worldwide. Pipeline payments are always made to our company directly and not Transneft.
Due to discovery of the fraud people. Transneft has to clear their own part, making people to realize or know that we are not using them niether working with them. So if anyone ask you to pay transneft fee, saying that he is from our Sogaz oils. never believe him or her because we have our pipeline and buyer pays directly to us for usage of our pipeline.
We advice you to make sure that you are dealing with the right Sogaz Oils company by getting your mails to our direct mail box and knowing that our pipeline payments are in our own invoice and not what people showed and brought to Transneft, having Transneft names on it. This is a warning to all buyers to be careful.
We are together with Transneft, looking for those people that damages the reputations of existing oil registered companies. we shall get them and bring them to justice.
CEO
30 Apr 2008 08:16
Post 5 of 696
Dear Madame, Krilem reservoir Ltd is fake as i let thel face to face with my end buyer as i al mandate. Regarding now, Terra Petrol, i have doubt but i need some research more deeply to be convinced and it is on verification thrugh the enbassy, so we should wait , to give an asnwer. Regarding Luke Oil be careful as they are fakes! Lukoil is real and powerfull. I have a blacklist company very huge , like altanetiva, alegro, sogas , sogaz prom, etc... So it is always difficult to be sure, but a good investisgation is obliged Thanks
30 Apr 2008 09:54
Post 6 of 696
Quoting from [aanderson]:
Replying to [Agashkova Tatyana]:
The Allegro Oil and Gas company I'm working allows the buyer to select the escrow company. The partial pop they provided looks real. However with all the bad press it has scared off my buyer
Dear Sir,
This company is totally fakes !As i know them very well!
The partial POP or soft POP has to be checked with the enbassy of Russia to authentify the document issue by the governement
Regards
Thanks
30 Apr 2008 10:00
Post 7 of 696
Has anyone ever done any business with OAO URALSIBNEFT in Moscow? They want a €15,000 fee to prove we are real buyers. We have searched the internet for any bad press about them but have not been able to find any comments - good or bad! Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
01 May 2008 04:09
Post 8 of 696
To All in the oil business,
Does anyone knows this company?
Please let me know whether this company does exist and is really in the oil & gas business:-
Mr Mohammad Suleman.
Demek Oil and Gas Inc(Group Managing Director/CEO)
United Kingdom.(Europe)
30, Oxford Road, Kensington,
SW7 London.
Tel Number:+44-703-1922669,+44-704-5756-959
Fax Number:+44-8715-0312-06,+44-8715-0312-09
Thanks in advance.
Does anyone knows this company?
Please let me know whether this company does exist and is really in the oil & gas business:-
Mr Mohammad Suleman.
Demek Oil and Gas Inc(Group Managing Director/CEO)
United Kingdom.(Europe)
30, Oxford Road, Kensington,
SW7 London.
Tel Number:+44-703-1922669,+44-704-5756-959
Fax Number:+44-8715-0312-06,+44-8715-0312-09
Demek Oil and Gas Inc
(United States of America)
83, King Street,
Suite 500,
Seattle.
Washington 98104
Tel & Fax: +1-206-339-9409
Thanks in advance.
01 May 2008 19:02
Post 9 of 696
Dear Sir,
You really have a long way to go and a great many things to learn along the way all of which will be painful and cost you money and lost sleep. Do yourself the first favor and do not listen to the rubbish on sites like this, it is full of people who have no clue how the real oil business works. Your requirement for 1 million MT of D2 per month and 750,000 MT of mazut, is quite frankly the world of fantasy. There is NO WAY and I mean NO WAY will you ever get anything like this quantity. The best you can hope for is 50,000 Mt of D2 and 50,000 Mt of Mazut per month. Whoever your Buyer is that you represent is leading you down the garden path, because he himself is not a real Buyer, WHY and how do I know this because if he knew the business he would know that the numbers he is talking about are complete and utter rubbish. Do yourself a favor and ask him to supply you proof of Oil Transactions that he has completed in the past. Lastly the real Sellers know who the real Buyers are and they do not need a bunch of Brokers to assist them in putting together a deal. If you dont believe what I am telling you then test it for yourself and phone one of the Oil Traders (like Vitol) and tell them what you want or what you have got and they will simply put the phone down on you. By the way i only read this site for a laugh.
Replying to [oilyx]: Hi, its my first time join the community, but i want to share my experience also for this scam Russian company, a few months ago my company has signed a contract with buyer, we try to pay the transneft fee, so the buyer wont have to pay this, but luckily we havent give them the money yet, i check this Scam(Sogaz) company to Embassy in Moscow, and Russian Trade rep. here in Indonesia, and they never heard of them.
and at the moment we also have an offer from a company but they asked for 2% Escrow first, is it safe or it is the same with transneft fee? please help me discovered this matter.thank you
And one more thing, so which one is the scam company? Transnafta or Zogass oil Limited? cause i have urgent buyer who ask me for Mazut and they called me every minute asking for their order, i want to connect to the real supplier, i have 1 Million MT/Months order for D2 from my domestic buyer and 750.000 MT/Months Mazut M 100(75) all for one year contract, and extendable for several years to come, so help me find the real supplier
03 May 2008 22:00
Post 10 of 696
Dear Sirs,
Anybody knows anything about ''Global Phoenix Energy Limited''?
Thanks
04 May 2008 07:15
Post 11 of 696
Quoting from [sulevss]:Quoting from [smarco]:Quoting from [seth75]:You can not buy ANY RUSSIAN FUEL,it is all sold out for years by rolls ower.
Replying to [smarco]:
04 May 2008 20:34