Replying to [Believer1984]:Firstly,I'm not in this field.Few days ago,one of my client asked me checking the Nokia N95 here in China for him,the real phone in market is about RMB7000(which is equal to about US$933),but there is an supplier(gold supplier here) quote me as low as US$100!!!How could it be possible?

Replying to [Business in China]:I don't think there are real nokia with low price.And also I don't think there are any copy NOKIA has the same functions as real one.I am strange that why one of my clients want to get the copy one but with full functions the same as real one.I think it's waste time to find that copy nokia.We can supply copy ones with low price,but the functionis different from the real ones.If like that,NOKIA will not be necessary to exist.

Replying to [David1]:im from the uk and lives in china there are places u can get original nokias as i buy them for my company.the n95 is only phone i dont buy because its to exspensive still. dont listen to people on this forum of course there are risks in all businesses and many scammers out there. i have a friend who works for nokia in finland i have personal sent her phones and she can verify they are original. so that is good enough for me all this rubbish you read on here is to put people off importing them because phones are hot sellers.less people importing the more custom you have come on folks if you know how to do business properly things will be ok and cant go wrong.

Replying to [pedro1231]:find the real manufacturer.

Lancy
Company Name: Poker(Hong Kong) CO; Ltd.
Poker(Shenzhen)Electronic Co;Ltd.
Address: 2206,Duoli industrial zone meihua Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, China.
Website: www.poker-cn.com
MSN:Lancy319@hotmail.com
E-mail: liben@poker-cn.com
Tel: +86-0755-21680079

Quoting from [KathyLem]:


Replying to [Business in China]:

Hello,

Perhaps you can help me...I am a new import/export business based in the United States and I have already lost a great deal of money through several bad business deals in China... I am trying to buy video games such as the Nintendo Wii US Version, it seems like there is a ton of companies selling them, but I can not seem to get anyone to except any other form of payment beside western union...this is how I lost over 6000.00 in the past few months...can you please help??

Thank You,

Kathleen Lemerise

No matter what payment method they are employing, what you have to do is to do enough Due Diligence work before your payment.  In my opinions, no form of payment is safe for you if you dea with a scammer, and every payment means is safe for a reliable businessman.  So first of all you have to find a registered company with export right to deal with in China.

You like very low prices with good quality, this is why you got cheated every time.  Please contact me for details when necessary.

Justin Yuan

Changsha, China

Replying to [buddybud]:

IN CHINA, VERY SPECIAL TO EXPORT TO HONGKONG OR IMPORT FROM HONGKONG.

Many companies pay no duties and very low duties for import and export through H.K. many forwarders company have RELATIONS with customs officers. that is why MANY BRANDED MOBILES selling in China at lower price than normal CHINA BRAND ONES. they are Original, real, but not paying tax and duties.
we always ship to H.K. and go DHL H.K. or go air shipping from H.K. but without paying China customs duties. WHY?? too many companies do like this. why ?? if you were Chinese. you will understand.
RELATIONS IN CHINA is very important. that is true.

Best wishes

EAGLE TECH

Replying to [Business in China]:
I have ordered a sample phone from trading company named: Putian Xinyi Shoes & Garments Trade Co., Ltd.
and sales person Michael. I asked him how good is the copy of the product and I got al the answers and if the product is not good he promised money back. I got the merchandise and since I received it Michael never on line. There is another sales person Sara is always on line once she heard the story, she never reply. This companies are ruin the hole business on Alibaba and all trust.

Ok, first let me clear the air and explain some right facts and BS that was said in this thread! If you buy any name brand mobile phone from china you are getting one of three things: A refurbished phone, and refurbished phone re-packaged as new, or a copy phone). Every SINGLE person on here - that thinks they can buy a original brand new brand name phone from China should just STOP looking right this very second - there is no secret supplier or any secret company that has these. There is no "we don't pay import tax BS". 99.9% of unlocked phones on eBay claimed as BRAND NEW - guess what? THEY ARE NOT NEW. They were broken at one point and the chinese factories slapped them together and fixed them - and re-printed boxes and packaged them as new again and put all those little pretty plastic protective covers on the screens and keyboards to make them look new agian. Take a look at some power sellers feedback that sell strictly mobile phones. "phone was claimed to be new - but there were pictures on it from 2004" "why does my new phone says it has talk time hours on it?" And there ya' go people. All your wondering is all solved! But there will still be people that read this and say I am wrong...why? BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IT! Now if here are some facts to protect yourself if you MUST import mobile phones: Don't even buy electronics from companies located in Putian City. Not to say that there are not good people there - because there are! But there are lots of very bad people there. If you see someone selling some knock-off nike's from there - yes, thats normally. But come on now - a company in Putian that is selling Nintendo Wii's, mobile phones, laptops or anything of the sort in a place where there is Aloe farms everywhere? If you want electronics - look in area's where they produce electronics or where there are big cities with trading companies that have access to middle-men and factories that do (a company located in shenzhen is pretty central). If you are looking for the BEST FACTORY WITH THE BEST PRICES - just stop now - 97% of "factories" on here are really trading companies in a small tiny office. Why do you think EXPECIALLY with electronic you can't do L/C's or COD? They want a wire transfer because they dont have the money to layout to go to Xiamen (large flea market) or a wholesaler and put there money upfront. Thats why they want you to pay them the money first - then take your $1000 that you sent buy a bus ticket and buy your goods. Simple as that. Your not going to find "the source for electronics" on alibaba PEOPLE! But are there great trading companies and wholesalers on here - ABSOLUTELY! If you really want to find best price - go buy a 1-way plane ticket - get a translator that is familiar with the industrial zones and get your butt to China - you have a long stay ahead of you (better start saving for your 3 month trip now) ;)

Quoting from [BIS35]:


Replying to [Business in China]:

I have ordered a sample phone from trading company named: Putian Xinyi Shoes & Garments Trade Co., Ltd.

and sales person Michael. I asked him how good is the copy of the product and I got al the answers and if the product is not good he promised money back. I got the merchandise and since I received it Michael never on line. There is another sales person Sara is always on line once she heard the story, she never reply. This companies are ruin the hole business on Alibaba and all trust.

For your case, the reason is very simple: You've been totally scammed by a fraud company in Putian. That's to say, this supplier is not a registered company in China.  Putian is famous for sports shoes and scammers in China. How can you buy electronics from a shoe shop and a non-existing company in China? Take care, be careful next time!