scammed or used Product Stream International L.L.C. ?
Post 22 of 101
Replying to [Ranger]:I saw all the posts writing in this forum and I would like to say that my company also has problems with Mr. Andrew, we bought him several PS3, and after open an L/C and stipulate a delivery time of 15 days, we still waiting for the goods. More than 1 month and a half had passed and nothing, and as you said when you try to contact him you only have a machine messenger answer. I think that all the companies which have this kind of problems needs to join forces and make a legal action against him, which will help others to be more cautious and to avoid business with this kind of people.
J.L. Yugueros 00 351 217 543 242 Lisbon Portugal
J.L. Yugueros 00 351 217 543 242 Lisbon Portugal
01 Jun 2007 08:12
Post 23 of 101
Replying to [Ranger]:
I know his source and have had them verified with an SGS report and other 3rd party vertification.
I am looking for investors to take this to the next level so we do not have to go through Andrew Shoemaker.
All potential investors or people who wish to pay me out for the source please contact me on my cell phone at 919-791-7797/
I know this isnt supposed to be an advertising board but this is more to solve everyones issues and I will be giving ACCURATE and SECURE payment terms as well as a discounts price for all of those that come on board from the beginning.
Dustin Jones
I know his source and have had them verified with an SGS report and other 3rd party vertification.
I am looking for investors to take this to the next level so we do not have to go through Andrew Shoemaker.
All potential investors or people who wish to pay me out for the source please contact me on my cell phone at 919-791-7797/
I know this isnt supposed to be an advertising board but this is more to solve everyones issues and I will be giving ACCURATE and SECURE payment terms as well as a discounts price for all of those that come on board from the beginning.
Dustin Jones
03 Jun 2007 09:51
Post 24 of 101
Replying to [Dustin Adam Jones]:
also ranger, I got the info from a bill of landing from my shoemaker where he used a pen to scratch out the company info b/c it was late and i was acting very mad ....he made the mistake one time and now has the BOL electronically marked out. Unless you know the source, (im not denying that you do) but no one else will be able to get this from the USA supplier bc he knows he made this error.
Ive been having people call my cell phone all week offering 5-20K for the info but I know its worth much more than that.
He can get about 30-40 different products.
The Nintendo WII is original USA brand and runs at a price around 150 and can offer about 5,000 units per month.
Just off the first month, you can sell these for 210 all day long in the US. (I wou;d predict I could have 5,000 sold in 7 days time) with a profit of about 400-500K. Thats just one month. The supplier writes you an annual contract where he guarantee 5,000 units per month for 1 year. He has PAL and USA stock, cellphones and all major electronics.
I will need a hefty sum to pay me for the source but am more interested in partnering up with someone in the field to work a MUTUALLY beneficial relationship.
COntact me for more details or with your offers . 919-791-7797
also ranger, I got the info from a bill of landing from my shoemaker where he used a pen to scratch out the company info b/c it was late and i was acting very mad ....he made the mistake one time and now has the BOL electronically marked out. Unless you know the source, (im not denying that you do) but no one else will be able to get this from the USA supplier bc he knows he made this error.
Ive been having people call my cell phone all week offering 5-20K for the info but I know its worth much more than that.
He can get about 30-40 different products.
The Nintendo WII is original USA brand and runs at a price around 150 and can offer about 5,000 units per month.
Just off the first month, you can sell these for 210 all day long in the US. (I wou;d predict I could have 5,000 sold in 7 days time) with a profit of about 400-500K. Thats just one month. The supplier writes you an annual contract where he guarantee 5,000 units per month for 1 year. He has PAL and USA stock, cellphones and all major electronics.
I will need a hefty sum to pay me for the source but am more interested in partnering up with someone in the field to work a MUTUALLY beneficial relationship.
COntact me for more details or with your offers . 919-791-7797
03 Jun 2007 11:11
Post 25 of 101
Replying to [Dustin Adam Jones]:
Replying to [jaredloo]:
100 days have passed and no items from Andy. Im sorry but NO ONE EVER USED ANDREW SHOEMAKER AGAIN! LIES LIES LIES.
100 days, I repeat 100 days. Do I need to say it again? 100 days and no product!
Replying to [jaredloo]:
100 days have passed and no items from Andy. Im sorry but NO ONE EVER USED ANDREW SHOEMAKER AGAIN! LIES LIES LIES.
100 days, I repeat 100 days. Do I need to say it again? 100 days and no product!
16 Jun 2007 15:38
Post 26 of 101
Replying to [Dustin Adam Jones]:hey dont ever pay anyone for a supplier....or their contact info because you dont need to...!! you can email me and i will give you the truth about the supplier he is talking about....I know who he is and the real truth as well !!
24 Jun 2007 13:51
Post 27 of 101
Replying to [Dustin Adam Jones]:Im sorry to anyone but let it be said and heard.....I also know the real supplier and I will tell you this...I wonder also about anyone on here posting all these blogs...
tryin to go around someone back to get investers for your profit/own benifit...whats your company name so we can check you out !!!! Seems like your trying to be the second snake here and why should people trust you ...who are you ?? Why do you need investers...if you do you should not be in this business to begin with.Do you understand anything about customs and importing/laws that amount of quanity to the usa...sorry everyone but its not going to happen !! So whats your import license number .what inspection company do you use ?? what kind of Bond do you have in place to do this business.Make sure you understand what you are trying to do...and get people involved in here and understand that .before hand.Nitendo has very strick guildlines on these units and monitor all distrubution of every unit sold or imported our exported.Please if you can verify the suppliers resellers number that they have on file with nitendo to export these amount of units .sorry the truth is they are very scarce and only authorized resellers are getting the available quanitys at this time.you need to understand this business more before trying to use andy shoemakers business contacts for your own benefit...people you cant get these units shipped to usa from overseas unless you have a importing license and trust me there is more than that involved,You should always meet with any suppliers overseas and have certified inspection companys to verify authenitication with nintendo and inspection certificates...so learn the business befor you get other people to loose their money.too...so stop the all you nonsense .!!!!!
tryin to go around someone back to get investers for your profit/own benifit...whats your company name so we can check you out !!!! Seems like your trying to be the second snake here and why should people trust you ...who are you ?? Why do you need investers...if you do you should not be in this business to begin with.Do you understand anything about customs and importing/laws that amount of quanity to the usa...sorry everyone but its not going to happen !! So whats your import license number .what inspection company do you use ?? what kind of Bond do you have in place to do this business.Make sure you understand what you are trying to do...and get people involved in here and understand that .before hand.Nitendo has very strick guildlines on these units and monitor all distrubution of every unit sold or imported our exported.Please if you can verify the suppliers resellers number that they have on file with nitendo to export these amount of units .sorry the truth is they are very scarce and only authorized resellers are getting the available quanitys at this time.you need to understand this business more before trying to use andy shoemakers business contacts for your own benefit...people you cant get these units shipped to usa from overseas unless you have a importing license and trust me there is more than that involved,You should always meet with any suppliers overseas and have certified inspection companys to verify authenitication with nintendo and inspection certificates...so learn the business befor you get other people to loose their money.too...so stop the all you nonsense .!!!!!
24 Jun 2007 14:35
Post 28 of 101
Replying to [cheap]:
No my friend, you are VERY VERY wrong!
Yes, only Nintendo distributors can get them at this time. It may be the actual realistic scenario to get the units, but ANDREW SHOEMAKER HAS TOLD US DIFFERENTLY TO GET US TO PUT MONEY DOWN!
He told us the lead time from order to delivery was 3-12 days, more like 3 but he was telling people 12 so he would seem like "God".
He put our hard earned money down with a supplier that he had not yet even visited or put in money for a sample order. He told us the units were in the USA when we first gave him money, then said they were gone and had to go overseas to get them.
Its one thing, if the realistic situation is much longer. But it is HIS responsibility to tell us upfront and if he doesn't know tell us he is unsure not over promise and under deliver. He basically lied about it so we would put money down and now is telling us about all the "delays" etc.
100+ days. You tell me how ONE HUNDRED DAYS is something I should be happy with or realistic? Ive never heard of someone who was either scammed or gone really wrong that has taken 100 days to get the units.
He also gave customers fedex tracking numbers and said they were on the way before they even were shipped from the port according to BOL, ignores our phone calls etc.
We are not to blame sir. Again, it might be how long it takes everyone but as the supplier (andrew) he had NO idea how long it would actually take and put our money down as a "test".
No my friend, you are VERY VERY wrong!
Yes, only Nintendo distributors can get them at this time. It may be the actual realistic scenario to get the units, but ANDREW SHOEMAKER HAS TOLD US DIFFERENTLY TO GET US TO PUT MONEY DOWN!
He told us the lead time from order to delivery was 3-12 days, more like 3 but he was telling people 12 so he would seem like "God".
He put our hard earned money down with a supplier that he had not yet even visited or put in money for a sample order. He told us the units were in the USA when we first gave him money, then said they were gone and had to go overseas to get them.
Its one thing, if the realistic situation is much longer. But it is HIS responsibility to tell us upfront and if he doesn't know tell us he is unsure not over promise and under deliver. He basically lied about it so we would put money down and now is telling us about all the "delays" etc.
100+ days. You tell me how ONE HUNDRED DAYS is something I should be happy with or realistic? Ive never heard of someone who was either scammed or gone really wrong that has taken 100 days to get the units.
He also gave customers fedex tracking numbers and said they were on the way before they even were shipped from the port according to BOL, ignores our phone calls etc.
We are not to blame sir. Again, it might be how long it takes everyone but as the supplier (andrew) he had NO idea how long it would actually take and put our money down as a "test".
25 Jun 2007 07:46
Post 29 of 101
Replying to [Dustin Adam Jones]:
ALso, you say you should visit your supplier. I DID! Andrew was basically my supplier in which case I visited him in Atlanta for 2 days and sat in his office and heard from his own mouth the terms I am giving you.
So please tell me why I am at fault and Andrew is just a target of fault here?
I visited him before placing money down, checked out his home, business had dinner and a few beers with him. Sat in his office and got all the terms face to face and then placed money down.
Please tell me where I went wrong?
ALso, you say you should visit your supplier. I DID! Andrew was basically my supplier in which case I visited him in Atlanta for 2 days and sat in his office and heard from his own mouth the terms I am giving you.
So please tell me why I am at fault and Andrew is just a target of fault here?
I visited him before placing money down, checked out his home, business had dinner and a few beers with him. Sat in his office and got all the terms face to face and then placed money down.
Please tell me where I went wrong?
25 Jun 2007 07:48
Post 30 of 101
Replying to [Dustin Adam Jones]: I'm not saying you are wrong feeling the way that you do .....but simply to try and sell lthe source for profit....is completely wrong...and a big legal conflict of interest.Most people simply dont undersatand this business if he is having problems with his supplier....that would be a big sign not to deal with that supplier or subject anyone else to that mess.He obviously is having issues with his supplier...so let him sort it out is all im saying.why would you want to send money to the same supplier that he has >?? Have you met them face to face....have you visted the factory yourself ?? do you have contracts that you have prepared by a international attorney to protect you and your investers you looking for...you you even understand the process of importing to the usa.....its very hard...and a very timely process..so dont dont think that supplier will do you good....if Andrew shpemaker is having problems with him.THATS THE SIGN !!!!! GET IT !!!!
25 Jun 2007 11:35
Post 31 of 101
Replying to [Dustin Adam Jones]: Andrew and is company are simply put product brokers......!!!!
25 Jun 2007 11:36