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Sending Money Via Western Union Type Service: A Scam Every Time
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There are so many scammers on this site, it can be downright hard work trying to find the legitimate ones. So let me give you the best advice I possibly can: I do not care what someone tells you, how many pictures of their "alleged" products they have, as soon as they mention the word "Western Union" or any other type of money wiring, IT IS A SCAM.
These types of services are for

1. People that do not have bank accounts

2. Money as a gift

3. To pay a bill (i.e. car payment).

If you send someone money this way, plan on never getting it back. Legitimate companies will NEVER EVER ask you to pay this way.(Ask yourself, when have you ever bought something from a store, and you "Moneygrammed" your payment for it?) If you need more proof, just browse through this forum of hundreds of people that are trying to find ways to get their money back.

This is my recent experience: I was dealing with a company I thought was legit. I checked them out on the internet, and it was an actual electronics company in Hong Kong. However, this guy had a free yahoo address(Why not have an email address from the company?) And when I checked out the IP address from the emails, they were traced to Nigeria. Then when he sent an email stating that method of Payment was Western Union, I knew he was a scammer. Also, the name he said to wire the money to was completely different, a 'Aletor Itua'; When I searched this name, I found endless articles of people being scammed from this same person. For fun, I emailed the scammer, telling him that I won't do Western Union, and recommended Escrow.com. This is the email I received back:

"this is my HONG KONG NATIONAL ID CARD,i have never done this before not even to the most trusted customer i will not send my ID card to that person the reason is that here in HONG KONG anyone could be easily located and arrested wherever you are so everyone here in HONG KONG do not give out there ID CARD but i have decided do this because of what you said in the content of your first mail and you wanted someone who could work with you to achieve success . The person that taught you and gave you all those informations are very correct but i want to inform you that if there are bad people in business there are also good people , 10 bad fruits on a tree does not make the whole fruits on the tree bad i want to assure you of a good deal you just wait and see also i want you to know that western union is not established for bad transaction western union is a legal means , but bad people just want to make it bad also do you know that there have been recent reports of cheat via paypal, escrow mr peter with this email bp20002003@yahoo.co.uk was cheated of about 13,000 dolars via paypal escrow but when he met me today he his happy as he bought goods worth 1800 dollars and he his happy in conclusion it is not method of payment that really matters what matters is the person that you wants to buy from , i have conscience oaky and i have promised myself to be good always and not cheat anyone i want to assure you that you are ina a safe hand just go ahead and send the money right now and give me the MTCN today and i will get back to your email with the FEDEX shipment tracking numkber today take me for my word i am expecting to hear from you N.B . please please please my national id card i send to you is my life please , i will send your item and also to the second address immediatelly i get the MTCN after you have your items i will require you to inform me . THANKS. Stephen Lai "

REMEMBER THEY ARE GOOD.....THEY MAKE A LIVING THIS WAY!

We are all keeping the scammers thriving by falling for their tricks. Please, please please do your research, and keep your money safe by only dealing with legitimate companies with legitimate payment methods, like www.escrow.com. I posted an ad for wanting to buy Nintendo Wii's, and I received over 40 responses- all fake. Be Careful and be Wise. I HAVE STARTED A WEBSITE FOR ALL OF US HONEST PEOPLE TO TELL OUR STORIES, GET HELP, AND STOP THESE SCAMMERS. Email me for more information at helpIwasscammed@yahoo.com, and visit my fraud website at http://www.helpiwasscammed.com [em14] NOTE: I have no idea why, but if you send me an email from a gmail account, I will not be able to respond to you. I apologize for the inconvenience.

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27 Mar 2007 21:53
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Replying to [alimartin888]:

So that should tell your common sense not to do business with them.
10 Jun 2007 19:10
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batignawong
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Replying to [CS55]:
me to i want to know which company is that i wan to buy nokia 95 to thiers 4 company in uk selling n95 for cheaper price they said its original and made by finaland ..most people say her beware of thos company asking for payment optiom through WU and MONEY GRAM...pls if u have some idea where i could find an honest buyer of nokia phone can u email me at dainee_hagsan@yahoo.com [em6]
10 Jun 2007 20:56
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Replying to [batignawong]:

I have advice, information and fraud help at my site at www.internetfraudhelp.com
11 Jun 2007 16:58
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Replying to [inwilddreams]: If anyone gets scamed or think theres a scam email me with info catchfraud@usa.com
12 Jun 2007 00:32
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Replying to [fubutrade]

$117 for cellphones?My goodness,what type of cellphone did you want to buy,do you think it's so cheap???[em12]
12 Jun 2007 02:45
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Replying to [batignawong]:

WOW,that's terrible that companies in UK fraud you........
Scammers are worldwide,isn't it?
12 Jun 2007 02:47
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Replying to [Rudy in Xiamen]:
SCAMS don;t just happen to the WEST. I was recently scammed. And when I called to confront the company for sending inferior and non-conforming goods, their reply was "Since we are all Chinese, lets discuss this amiacably"... I was was like "What the hell???? You scam me and you want me to treat you like a fellow chinese...???@@@ What about youscammers out there try treating us regualr folks like fellow HUMAN BEINGS"
13 Jun 2007 05:49
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Replying to [alimartin888]:Using credit cards and papals are not safe enough, if you use a credit card, and your credit information falls in the hands of a scammer, you are in for identity theft and before you know it you are holding as much credit than you ever think possible.
I am telling you this as an established truth, the use of credit cards is not to be encouraged at all, because you do your payment all at once when you use a credit card which is risky, in cases where these seller is a scammer. On the other hand some that request payment by western union ask you to pay 30% maximum (this will help them in processing and shipping the goods) and when the goods are recieved by you in good condition, well examined and you are satisfied, the remaining percentage can be payed. The other side of the coin is that when we think about the safety of buyers we should also think of that of the sellers. In this business of trading they are 50-50 chances of lossing and gaining. All i can say is that we pray that we fall into good hands always and let our spirit trouble us when things are not right. Good luck.
15 Jun 2007 02:59
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Replying to [find39mm]:

Again, like I previously stated, always do your research before doing business with anyone. There are ways to be scammed no matter what method of payment is used. That is why I always recommend a middleman service, like paypal or escrow.com. A credit card can always be disputed through the cc company, however I personally never use my credit cards. Western Union is never safe, just because you only pay a percentage first does not make it safe....scammers will take whatever they will get! I do not understand why anyone would suggest paying for merchandise through Western Union, unless they are a scammer themselves, or not educated on proper business methods. (Unless you have established a business relationship, and trust the person 100%.) This is the fraud advice taken from Western Union's website:
The Western Union Money TransferSM service is a great way to send money to people you know and trust. If you need to send money to someone you don’t know well, you may be putting yourself at risk for fraud.

Because we care about consumers, Western Union urges you to protect yourself from fraud by considering the following:


Never send money to a stranger using a money transfer service.

Beware of deals or opportunities that seem too good to be true.

Don’t use money transfer services to pay for things like online auction purchases.

Never send money to pay for taxes or fees on foreign lottery winnings.

Need I say more? Please read this entire article, and do your own research before trying to justify paying through a money transfer service. Giving poor advice is only going to cause more people becoming victims of fraud.
16 Jun 2007 18:54
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withron
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I'm looking to buy some trainers and/or phones from a company on here called http://www.2008-nike.com/ (that is there site)

They want paying with Western Union or MoneyGram.

Is it safe to buy from these?

I'm new to this and need a little help...

Thanks

Withron [em20]

Their company is called Chengxiang District Putian City Xinxing Trade Co., Ltd.

and they have a gold supplier thingy and a trusted member badge.

Is it safe to buy from these??????

HELP!!!
18 Jun 2007 08:40
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