Sending Money Via Western Union Type Service: A Scam Every Time
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There are so many scammers on this site, it can be downright hard work trying to find the legitimate ones. So let me give you the best advice I possibly can: I do not care what someone tells you, how many pictures of their "alleged" products they have, as soon as they mention the word "Western Union" or any other type of money wiring, IT IS A SCAM.
These types of services are for
1. People that do not have bank accounts
2. Money as a gift
3. To pay a bill (i.e. car payment).
If you send someone money this way, plan on never getting it back. Legitimate companies will NEVER EVER ask you to pay this way.(Ask yourself, when have you ever bought something from a store, and you "Moneygrammed" your payment for it?) If you need more proof, just browse through this forum of hundreds of people that are trying to find ways to get their money back.
This is my recent experience: I was dealing with a company I thought was legit. I checked them out on the internet, and it was an actual electronics company in Hong Kong. However, this guy had a free yahoo address(Why not have an email address from the company?) And when I checked out the IP address from the emails, they were traced to Nigeria. Then when he sent an email stating that method of Payment was Western Union, I knew he was a scammer. Also, the name he said to wire the money to was completely different, a 'Aletor Itua'; When I searched this name, I found endless articles of people being scammed from this same person. For fun, I emailed the scammer, telling him that I won't do Western Union, and recommended Escrow.com. This is the email I received back:
"this is my HONG KONG NATIONAL ID CARD,i have never done this before not even to the most trusted customer i will not send my ID card to that person the reason is that here in HONG KONG anyone could be easily located and arrested wherever you are so everyone here in HONG KONG do not give out there ID CARD but i have decided do this because of what you said in the content of your first mail and you wanted someone who could work with you to achieve success . The person that taught you and gave you all those informations are very correct but i want to inform you that if there are bad people in business there are also good people , 10 bad fruits on a tree does not make the whole fruits on the tree bad i want to assure you of a good deal you just wait and see also i want you to know that western union is not established for bad transaction western union is a legal means , but bad people just want to make it bad also do you know that there have been recent reports of cheat via paypal, escrow mr peter with this email bp20002003@yahoo.co.uk was cheated of about 13,000 dolars via paypal escrow but when he met me today he his happy as he bought goods worth 1800 dollars and he his happy in conclusion it is not method of payment that really matters what matters is the person that you wants to buy from , i have conscience oaky and i have promised myself to be good always and not cheat anyone i want to assure you that you are ina a safe hand just go ahead and send the money right now and give me the MTCN today and i will get back to your email with the FEDEX shipment tracking numkber today take me for my word i am expecting to hear from you N.B . please please please my national id card i send to you is my life please , i will send your item and also to the second address immediatelly i get the MTCN after you have your items i will require you to inform me . THANKS. Stephen Lai "
REMEMBER THEY ARE GOOD.....THEY MAKE A LIVING THIS WAY!
We are all keeping the scammers thriving by falling for their tricks. Please, please please do your research, and keep your money safe by only dealing with legitimate companies with legitimate payment methods, like www.escrow.com. I posted an ad for wanting to buy Nintendo Wii's, and I received over 40 responses- all fake. Be Careful and be Wise. I HAVE STARTED A WEBSITE FOR ALL OF US HONEST PEOPLE TO TELL OUR STORIES, GET HELP, AND STOP THESE SCAMMERS. Email me for more information at helpIwasscammed@yahoo.com, and visit my fraud website at http://www.helpiwasscammed.com![[em14]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_embrace.gif)
NOTE: I have no idea why, but if you send me an email from a gmail account, I will not be able to respond to you. I apologize for the inconvenience.
These types of services are for
1. People that do not have bank accounts
2. Money as a gift
3. To pay a bill (i.e. car payment).
If you send someone money this way, plan on never getting it back. Legitimate companies will NEVER EVER ask you to pay this way.(Ask yourself, when have you ever bought something from a store, and you "Moneygrammed" your payment for it?) If you need more proof, just browse through this forum of hundreds of people that are trying to find ways to get their money back.
This is my recent experience: I was dealing with a company I thought was legit. I checked them out on the internet, and it was an actual electronics company in Hong Kong. However, this guy had a free yahoo address(Why not have an email address from the company?) And when I checked out the IP address from the emails, they were traced to Nigeria. Then when he sent an email stating that method of Payment was Western Union, I knew he was a scammer. Also, the name he said to wire the money to was completely different, a 'Aletor Itua'; When I searched this name, I found endless articles of people being scammed from this same person. For fun, I emailed the scammer, telling him that I won't do Western Union, and recommended Escrow.com. This is the email I received back:
"this is my HONG KONG NATIONAL ID CARD,i have never done this before not even to the most trusted customer i will not send my ID card to that person the reason is that here in HONG KONG anyone could be easily located and arrested wherever you are so everyone here in HONG KONG do not give out there ID CARD but i have decided do this because of what you said in the content of your first mail and you wanted someone who could work with you to achieve success . The person that taught you and gave you all those informations are very correct but i want to inform you that if there are bad people in business there are also good people , 10 bad fruits on a tree does not make the whole fruits on the tree bad i want to assure you of a good deal you just wait and see also i want you to know that western union is not established for bad transaction western union is a legal means , but bad people just want to make it bad also do you know that there have been recent reports of cheat via paypal, escrow mr peter with this email bp20002003@yahoo.co.uk was cheated of about 13,000 dolars via paypal escrow but when he met me today he his happy as he bought goods worth 1800 dollars and he his happy in conclusion it is not method of payment that really matters what matters is the person that you wants to buy from , i have conscience oaky and i have promised myself to be good always and not cheat anyone i want to assure you that you are ina a safe hand just go ahead and send the money right now and give me the MTCN today and i will get back to your email with the FEDEX shipment tracking numkber today take me for my word i am expecting to hear from you N.B . please please please my national id card i send to you is my life please , i will send your item and also to the second address immediatelly i get the MTCN after you have your items i will require you to inform me . THANKS. Stephen Lai "
REMEMBER THEY ARE GOOD.....THEY MAKE A LIVING THIS WAY!
We are all keeping the scammers thriving by falling for their tricks. Please, please please do your research, and keep your money safe by only dealing with legitimate companies with legitimate payment methods, like www.escrow.com. I posted an ad for wanting to buy Nintendo Wii's, and I received over 40 responses- all fake. Be Careful and be Wise. I HAVE STARTED A WEBSITE FOR ALL OF US HONEST PEOPLE TO TELL OUR STORIES, GET HELP, AND STOP THESE SCAMMERS. Email me for more information at helpIwasscammed@yahoo.com, and visit my fraud website at http://www.helpiwasscammed.com
NOTE: I have no idea why, but if you send me an email from a gmail account, I will not be able to respond to you. I apologize for the inconvenience. Hot Topic Recommend
27 Mar 2007 21:53
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Replying to [Allen667]: Thanks Guys !! I was just about ready to deal with www.ruceo.com several times I asked for US references that could talk on their behalf, and nothing, some may think as I was, what's a few dlls to be spend for the risk if you can earn more if you hit the jackpot, if you like gambling, go a head, but do a background check, don't give up and if you guys find a good reliable source, please do not keep it to your self,![[em1]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_smile.gif)
18 May 2007 12:38
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Replying to [inwilddreams]:
Any payment methods are only one tool for payment methods.
Only people who are trust and honest,any payment is safe.
We only deal with people who tell us full true details of their company,such as full true name,full true address,full true phone,full true fax number, their details they required,and the full true name of the people.
If some people do not tell you full true name,full true address,full true phone,full true fax number, and their full true name,there may be a scam.
we ever received many inquiries,however,the inquired people,never tell us true name,address,phone number and fax number,every time,they said they will order big quanity,and requested us to send all samples free.They will pay order amount after they received samples.
Meanwhile their nationality and name of company every time is different,today,DK,tommorrow,UK,three days later,Germany,or UK,or USA,or any other country name. Even if they left you wrong phone number.We ever sent some samples free to one company from Nigeria including USD1200 express.However,5 days later,we emailed and asked about further information,but the cheater blocked our email, there is no reply from the email.
However,three weeks later,the cheater changed his email and asked us to send them free all products from our company,they will order 5x40ft HQ. This time,we know we do not believe such cheater again,and refues reply.
This is typical scam.
Do not reply if you receive such case.
Please be Honest and trust pople !
Only HONEST and TRUST PEOPLE can get real help and develop in business and in life.
Any payment methods are only one tool for payment methods.
Only people who are trust and honest,any payment is safe.
We only deal with people who tell us full true details of their company,such as full true name,full true address,full true phone,full true fax number, their details they required,and the full true name of the people.
If some people do not tell you full true name,full true address,full true phone,full true fax number, and their full true name,there may be a scam.
we ever received many inquiries,however,the inquired people,never tell us true name,address,phone number and fax number,every time,they said they will order big quanity,and requested us to send all samples free.They will pay order amount after they received samples.
Meanwhile their nationality and name of company every time is different,today,DK,tommorrow,UK,three days later,Germany,or UK,or USA,or any other country name. Even if they left you wrong phone number.We ever sent some samples free to one company from Nigeria including USD1200 express.However,5 days later,we emailed and asked about further information,but the cheater blocked our email, there is no reply from the email.
However,three weeks later,the cheater changed his email and asked us to send them free all products from our company,they will order 5x40ft HQ. This time,we know we do not believe such cheater again,and refues reply.
This is typical scam.
Do not reply if you receive such case.
Please be Honest and trust pople !
Only HONEST and TRUST PEOPLE can get real help and develop in business and in life.
19 May 2007 05:03
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Let's fight scammers! it is the time we fought back
24 May 2007 20:56
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Replying to [theyscamme]:
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25 May 2007 00:28
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Replying to [MsAngela]: Say how to you report a scammer company to Alibaba? I just had one China company rip me off. At least I got something a bad and non-working copy of what I asked for.
31 May 2007 14:30
Post 7 of 213
You can report them to Alibaba here:
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/servlet/page/static/help/contact_us_answer
But if they are Gold Suppliers, they are unlikely to act unless you have a court order.
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/servlet/page/static/help/contact_us_answer
But if they are Gold Suppliers, they are unlikely to act unless you have a court order.
02 Jun 2007 00:15
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Replying to [inwilddreams]:I found a solution, XOOM, Safer than Western Union, Easier than Western Union, Better than Western Union. It can accept Paypal and Credit Card, Can also help reduce the number of scam. Best Solution for China and Some other Countries.
02 Jun 2007 13:01
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Replying to [MsAngela]:
Hello, what payment method did you use?????
Hello, what payment method did you use?????
03 Jun 2007 03:30
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Replying to [inwilddreams]: i order phones from a company called Putian Dahai Trade Company located in No. 25, Meiyuan Road, Putian City, Fujian Province. China. The company took my money send me the wrong iteams that don't work and now will not even talk to me and i can't get any refunds or exchange what can i do. Also i paid with western union
03 Jun 2007 03:46
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Replying to [daquan07111]:
I am going to order a phone from Putian Shuangxiong Co., Ltd. tomorrow,Seem a good company although their copy nokia is bit expensive than others.I will update everyone here.
I am going to order a phone from Putian Shuangxiong Co., Ltd. tomorrow,Seem a good company although their copy nokia is bit expensive than others.I will update everyone here.
03 Jun 2007 04:41