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Sending Money Via Western Union Type Service: A Scam Every Time
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There are so many scammers on this site, it can be downright hard work trying to find the legitimate ones. So let me give you the best advice I possibly can: I do not care what someone tells you, how many pictures of their "alleged" products they have, as soon as they mention the word "Western Union" or any other type of money wiring, IT IS A SCAM.
These types of services are for

1. People that do not have bank accounts

2. Money as a gift

3. To pay a bill (i.e. car payment).

If you send someone money this way, plan on never getting it back. Legitimate companies will NEVER EVER ask you to pay this way.(Ask yourself, when have you ever bought something from a store, and you "Moneygrammed" your payment for it?) If you need more proof, just browse through this forum of hundreds of people that are trying to find ways to get their money back.

This is my recent experience: I was dealing with a company I thought was legit. I checked them out on the internet, and it was an actual electronics company in Hong Kong. However, this guy had a free yahoo address(Why not have an email address from the company?) And when I checked out the IP address from the emails, they were traced to Nigeria. Then when he sent an email stating that method of Payment was Western Union, I knew he was a scammer. Also, the name he said to wire the money to was completely different, a 'Aletor Itua'; When I searched this name, I found endless articles of people being scammed from this same person. For fun, I emailed the scammer, telling him that I won't do Western Union, and recommended Escrow.com. This is the email I received back:

"this is my HONG KONG NATIONAL ID CARD,i have never done this before not even to the most trusted customer i will not send my ID card to that person the reason is that here in HONG KONG anyone could be easily located and arrested wherever you are so everyone here in HONG KONG do not give out there ID CARD but i have decided do this because of what you said in the content of your first mail and you wanted someone who could work with you to achieve success . The person that taught you and gave you all those informations are very correct but i want to inform you that if there are bad people in business there are also good people , 10 bad fruits on a tree does not make the whole fruits on the tree bad i want to assure you of a good deal you just wait and see also i want you to know that western union is not established for bad transaction western union is a legal means , but bad people just want to make it bad also do you know that there have been recent reports of cheat via paypal, escrow mr peter with this email bp20002003@yahoo.co.uk was cheated of about 13,000 dolars via paypal escrow but when he met me today he his happy as he bought goods worth 1800 dollars and he his happy in conclusion it is not method of payment that really matters what matters is the person that you wants to buy from , i have conscience oaky and i have promised myself to be good always and not cheat anyone i want to assure you that you are ina a safe hand just go ahead and send the money right now and give me the MTCN today and i will get back to your email with the FEDEX shipment tracking numkber today take me for my word i am expecting to hear from you N.B . please please please my national id card i send to you is my life please , i will send your item and also to the second address immediatelly i get the MTCN after you have your items i will require you to inform me . THANKS. Stephen Lai "

REMEMBER THEY ARE GOOD.....THEY MAKE A LIVING THIS WAY!

We are all keeping the scammers thriving by falling for their tricks. Please, please please do your research, and keep your money safe by only dealing with legitimate companies with legitimate payment methods, like www.escrow.com. I posted an ad for wanting to buy Nintendo Wii's, and I received over 40 responses- all fake. Be Careful and be Wise. I HAVE STARTED A WEBSITE FOR ALL OF US HONEST PEOPLE TO TELL OUR STORIES, GET HELP, AND STOP THESE SCAMMERS. Email me for more information at helpIwasscammed@yahoo.com, and visit my fraud website at http://www.helpiwasscammed.com [em14] NOTE: I have no idea why, but if you send me an email from a gmail account, I will not be able to respond to you. I apologize for the inconvenience.

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27 Mar 2007 21:53
Post 2 of 213
Replying to [ebbi]:

Moneygram over paypal? Paypal may not be the best service available, but you can get your money back if scammed, whereas 'Moneygram" or Western Union has no recourse. From now on, I will only use escrow.com. I have found it is the most legit, safe way to do business. If a supplier refuses to use escrow.com, then I refuse to do business with them. If they are legitimate as they claim, they will want the same type of protection for their business as I do. USE YOUR COMMON SENSE! We put our money in banks because it is insured. So when dealing with COMPLETE STRANGERS over the internet, every precaution should be taken. NEVER send money to ANYONE unless you are using a SECURE payment option.
06 May 2007 00:41
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Replying to [inwilddreams]:Not all..Our company accept WU,Paypal,T/T for Samples..T/T,L/C or orders...Anyway sometimes our customers didn't care by WU for order..Just they think it's quicker..So business is on Honest...

Linda at RuiSeng
06 May 2007 02:03
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Replying to [RuiSeng]:
It is unfortunate that evil people have turned a good service like Western Union/Moneygram into a bad decision for business. A lot a responses seem to be missing my point- to be smart about who you do business with, do your research, and protect yourself. That is great that your customers do not care about using W/U. They obviously havent been scammed yet. It is good business that you give your customers several different payment options. From my experience, I will not send my money to a stranger unless I have insurance/recourse if the deal goes bad. I am sure that it is a quick way to pay, and an even quicker way to be ripped off.
06 May 2007 15:04
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Replying to [inwilddreams]:

Iam another sucker that was scammed. My very first purchase from Alibaba, .... and probably my last.

The bad thing for Alibaba is the bad advetising they are now receiving due to this. They should start some sort of protection program like ebay have.

Even in South Africa our local site pays something back as security.

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/system/Referral.jsp?ID=BTF_1_User_444167&target=http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/

www.bidorbuy
07 May 2007 06:41
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Replying to [MsAngela]: BE AWARE: DO NOT DEAL....
and also do not deal with
Mega Blue (Petr Pavel).
http://www.alibaba.com/company/11111129.html
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Supplier Scamed Me !!!. Not Responding Now .... From IRELAND

Hi.,

* I am from west yorkshire, UK.

* My supplier is Mega Blue (Petr Pavel).
http://www.alibaba.com/company/11111129.html

* we had a deal of 6 pieces of Brand new + with 18 month guarente + sealed tomtom 910 @ US$500.

* And the deal was 50% upfront and 50 % after shiping through Fedex.

* I paid him 250 US Dollars, and also given him
MTCN # *** *** ****

* but now .., he does not respond me.. , first he blocked me and then.. once he said i need full money.. also he did not deliver me any thing.

* So, I said that if he can not deliver me then refund my money, but he is not responding. at all.
* I am in trouble, please help me. And i paid him through
Western UNION ..,
So, what is the solution now ??? please respond me ASAP.

thxx.,
-abs




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Company Name: Mega Blue Limited
Country/Territory: Ireland
Address: 4, Clonsilla Road, Blanchardstown, Dublin, Ireland
Products/Services We Offer: Mobile Phones
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Geographic Markets: Worldwide
No. of Employees: 11 - 50 People
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10 May 2007 06:41
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Replying to [DS_W]:Well RUCEO.COM is a SCAM because I KNOW FOR SURE! Before I was going to do business with them, I did a search of the Internet and only found this "one" posting which wasn't actual experience that the company is a sham... so I went forward with my order and money via Western Union (I know it was stupid) but I found out... RUCEO.COM IS A SCAM! Here is the story:

I just want to make this posting so that others don’t get scammed by this company as I have. The company name is www.Ruceo.com. They solicited business through eBay illegally by sending a generic email announcing that they sell electronics with very low prices. Once at their website a fellow by the name of Ren Guo Fan in Beijing, China (supposedly) gives you a price (very low) and states that you must either wire money to ‘his’ bank account or Western Union. At the time I was very naive and fell for this scam. I never received any products just requests to send yet, more money and now I am out $2,000.00.
Hopefully, not another person will fall for scams like www.Ruceo.com and Ren Guo Fan have pulled off. Don’t Buy Anything From www.Ruceo.com or Ren Guo Fan in Beijing, China and NEVER use practices as Western Union which has no tracking system or protection for the consumer!

Maybe by posting more comments or TRUTHS like this on the internet, some other poor chap will think twice before kissing their money goodbye.

RUCEO.COM and REN GUO FAN in Beijing, China is A SCAM! THEIVES!
10 May 2007 09:31
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Allen667
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Replying to [MsAngela]: Also, please don't deal with these people as I Was Already Scammed!

I just want to make this posting so that others don’t get scammed by this company as I have. The company name is www.Ruceo.com. They solicited business through eBay illegally by sending a generic email announcing that they sell electronics with very low prices. Once at their website a fellow by the name of Ren Guo Fan in Beijing, China (supposedly) gives you a price (very low) and states that you must either wire money to ‘his’ bank account or Western Union. At the time I was very naive and fell for this scam. I never received any products just requests to send yet, more money and now I am out $2,000.00.
Hopefully, not another person will fall for scams like www.Ruceo.com and Ren Guo Fan have pulled off. Don’t Buy Anything From www.Ruceo.com or Ren Guo Fan in Beijing, China and NEVER use practices as Western Union which has no tracking system or protection for the consumer!
10 May 2007 09:58
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Replying to [inwilddreams]: Hi, We have a company and we paid by Western Union to a jacky wan, true name: Xinhui Lastname:Qin, from Shenzhen in China. His card put that we come from Techship (Shenzhen) Technology Co., Ltd. (http://techship.en.alibaba.com/aboutus.html) and he doesnt responde from yesterday, we paid him 325 USD, are truth this address??? We are nerviously because we contact about Trademanager and we dont have any response yet and he told us that today we talk. Thanks
10 May 2007 14:49
Post 10 of 213
Replying to [inwilddreams]:[em5]
You claim:
These types of services are for

1. People that do not have bank accounts

2. Money as a gift

3. To pay a bill (i.e. car payment)....
Payment by Western Union - even send it to yourself is a donation to the mob unless you are lucky and they are asleep. The system with "Agents" that can claim funds for you has made it possible for the East-European mob to take full control of it - and lift any payment made. They will even provide full evidence that they collected the money - with the evidence you asked for, and presented valid identification card - and there is nothing you can do.

If you donate, to it to a charitable cause. Some people need money and you can help them. These people do NOT need funds.[em6]

Well: You don't have to use it. It is possible to anywhere except in the US with a bank transfer, or even a credit card or better: PayPal[em8]
10 May 2007 15:47
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Replying to [inwilddreams]:HOW about........www.chinafraud.com...........
www.wholesalefraud.com.........
thank you.
13 May 2007 18:44
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