These days I have met so many buyers who said they got scamed in alibaba.Most of them bought the original branded laptop,mobile phone,camera,game console,LCD TV,GPS,MP3/4,etc.And most them are the private person,the people who dreamed that they can do drop ship business in the original branded products.They will be rich.When they find out the prices are so low.They are very excited,just like just found out a new land.Or they just wanna have a try.I fthey can get the original products with very low price.Some people know it might be a scam.But they still wanna have a risk.Finally they got scammed.Because they are lack of the experience of buying something from internet.And I met someone who got scammed twice,someone even got scammed 3 times.
So I wanna give the buyers who want to buy the original branded products some suggestions.
First I wanna tell you there isNO RIDICULOUSLY CHEAP original branded products at all in alibaba.But why there are so many buyers got ripped off.Just because they think the products from China are so cheap.Maybe they think there are so many products which are "Made in China" around them.And China is a World Factory.Another aspact,they might have met several fraud companies.They all quote the buyers very low price.That's why they think the products from China are so cheap.So they would get ripped off easily.Just think about it.If you can get a so weird cheap original branded product.,just like a original iPhone 3G 8GB is 200 USD.Then everybody in the world would like to buy it in alibaba.Then the iPhone agent can't do anything business.The branded company won't sell the branded products in bulk on the internet.They have regular distribution channel.Their distribution is generally like this:Factory--General agent--Agent--Customer.They don't have to warry about the distribution channel,so they don't have to sell them on internet in bulk.
The gold and trustpass suppliers which sell low price original branded products in alibaba must be scamers.For example,they offer Dell,Sony,HP,Apple,laptop,etc.And iPhone,Nokia,Sumsung cellphone,etc.They never send you what you have ordered.They might send you one pair of shoes or one pcs of T-shirt.JUST BE CAREFUL!!!
The frauds usually use the following ways to make you get ripped off.
1.Ridiculous,weird and low price to attract you.Such as they sell Dell XPS M1730 by $400,even $300.Some frauds will tell you the 1/2,1/4 or 3/4 of the real price to attract you.If you ask them why it’s so cheap.They will tell you their products are contraband(gray import).They don’t have to pay the tax.Or They claim they got the goods from factory directly.That’s why they are so cheap.Then some buyers will easily get trapped.Don’t believe it.That’s bullsh it.![[em6]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_rage.gif){kind=icon}
2.They claim that they are the gold and trustpass supplier in alibaba.Yes,they are the gold and trustpass suppliers.But they can easliy get the so-called "gold and trustpass" supplier authentication.
3.They usually use female name to attract the buyer.And always use a photo of sexy or beatiful girl on their TradeManager,MSN and Yahoo Messenger even they are males.
4.They just accept Western Union,Moneygram,T/T for payment way.That is too say,they just get the money first.After they get the money,they won't care about you.If you wanna their b ank account.Some company will tell you if they use b ank account they will pay the tax.They will ask you to pay more.Actually,they don’t have a company b ank account at all.Some buyers don’t wanna pay more.So they would like to use that one of 3 payment ways finally.Then they got scammed.
5.Some fraudulent companies sell the copy products as original products.Mostly they sell copy mobile phone,handbag,shoes,garments.They can't sell copy laptop and camera.Because to produce laptop and camera is needing high technology.So some companies claim that they have copy branded laptop.They must be a fraudulent company.The don't have it at all.
6.If you have ordered some original branded products.They will try every way to delay the time to send you what you ordered.Because they don't have any original product.They will say your package is kept in the Custom.Or the delivery company lost the package.Or they just give you the fake tracking number.Then you just wait and wait......,wait one week,one month,two month......,Or they will say your package is kept in the Custom,you need to pay more moeny for the tax.(why not they tell you there is tax to the Custom before you dealed with them).If you get that kinda news.Then you will know you have got ripped off.As I know.The fraud company will be removed out from alibabaafter they get 1-3 report letters in alibaba.That's why they will try every way to find the excuses not to send you the package.
7.They usually don't live where the address in the company's website.They usually live in another city.If you are in China and want their address.Don't go there.It's not exist.Even if it's exist.They are not there.
8.There are many free memebers are a frauds.The frauds who are free members are from Europe,Japan,Indonesia,America,etc.Especially Indonesia.
The methods toverify if a company are a fraud or not.
1.If you still want to buy the original braned products.Just ask them to show you the export Licence.If They can't show you.It might be a fraud company.If a company do show you,they might get a fake export certificate.They can use photeshop to make it so real.Some buyer request the pictures of the original branded products. The company will show them.Then some buyers will believe it.But the fraud company just got them on the internet.So Just BE CAREFUL.
2.You can pretend to be in China.Or you can pretend to have a Chinese friend in China.Tell them you or your Chinese friend will visit their company.If they don't speak to you anymore.It must be a frand company.Because they are afraid of Chinese people.Chinese people can easily call the police.But some frauds know you just want to investigate them.They know you are not in China.And they will tell you:Welcome to our company.Then tell you address where you can't find them.
3.You can sign up a trademanager ID from another country with another name.(You might think you can't sign up a trademanager ID from another country.But you can.Just try it.)Then just use your two IDs to ask them one product.Such as originaliPhone 3G 8GB.If they sell it to your first IDat $200.Then after one or two days to ask them if they will sell it to you at $100 with your another ID.(But don't ask them with your another ID right away.Because they might find out you arethe same person.)If they will give you at $100.They must be a big scammer.As long as they can get the money.They can give you at $50 or $30 or even $1.
4.If the company’s website(except the one in alibaba) is very simple.Such as just have some pictures of shoes,garments,mobile phone,laptopetc.
5.If they sell everything.Such as electronics,garments.They must be a fraud.If you say every model of the products.They will say “YES”.How can a real company can supply everything.
6.If they work in the night.They might be a fraud.You should know your time is different from China.A company usually has several Trademanager IDs.You can try to see them all.If they all on line in the night.And they sell international original branded products.They are absolutely frauds.
7.Most of the fraud companies just have 1 year in alibaba.You can see it on the left up side in their company’s website in alibaba.
8.Try to ask every staff of the company for one product.If it is a fraud company you will get many different prices.And the price is a big difference.
9.Go to google to search forthe company's nameand see if it’s a fraud.Also you can go to community in alibaba to search for it.
10.Ask them give you the information of their clients in your country.Ifthey give it to you,try to ask the person's experience which he or she dealed with the company.If their products are so cheap,they must have lot's of clients all over the world.If they can't give you or just give you fake information.They must be frauds.
If you still don't believe what I said.You can use above ways to test some companies what I listed in the following posts.And there are many frauds not justin alibaba,but also in Tradekey and Made-in-China,etc B2B website.After the fraudulent companies get removed in B2B website.They will just spend $2900(in alibaba)to open another fraudulent company to continue to scam peple.From December 1st 2008 to October 4th 2009.I have updated 284 fraudulent companies.Some of them were removed.Some of them are still cheating people in alibaba.Let's figure it out:If one fraudulent company cheat US$30,000.then From December 1st 2008 to Octorber 4th 2009,the fraudulent companies can cheat US$8,520,000.It's a huge number.Huh?Plus,there are many fruadulent companies I haven't added.
List51more Fraudulent companies on October 4th 2009.Gosh! So many! Be careful!
Alibaba!!!Please open your eyes!!!
Changsha Guangtong General Merchandise Trade Co., Ltd. Fuling District Ming Shi Firm Shenzhen Fumeiyuan Trading Co., Ltd. Xuchang Tianyihe Trade Co., Ltd. Yuang Trade Co., Ltd. Zhangjiagang Yangshe Town Tangshi Yongan Auto Accessories Business Dept. Apple supplier trade Co., Ltd The last one is from Made-in-China B2B website.
http://csgtbh.en.alibaba.com/
Changsha Qidi Office Supplies Co., Ltd.
http://csqdbg.en.alibaba.com/
Changsha Yijing Crafts Co., Ltd.
http://csyijin.en.alibaba.com/
Chongqing Since Network Information Technology Service Center
http://cqsince.en.alibaba.com/
http://cqmingshishangmao.en.alibaba.com/
Fuzhou Westlake Imp. & Exp. Co., Ltd.
http://fzxh.en.alibaba.com/
Glehle Industry (Xiamen) Co., Ltd.
http://xnhuida.en.alibaba.com/
Glory Straight Co., Ltd.
http://glorystraight.en.alibaba.com/
Gold Legend Rich International Ltd.
http://goldlegend.en.alibaba.com/
Golden Jet Rich Ltd.
http://jjf.en.alibaba.com/
Guangzhou Pingjiaping Trading Co., Ltd.
http://point.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei Chenghuangmiao Zhihao Clothing Wholesale
http://hfzhihao.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei City Shaoyang Trade Limited Company
http://hfshaoyang.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei Wentjing Trade Co., Ltd.
http://wenxing2009.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei Xinzhan Zone Qitian Mobile Phone Wholesale Department
http://qitian.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei Xinzhan Zone Yongtong Shoe Wholesale Department
http://yongtongshoe.en.alibaba.com/
Hong Kong Wang Yu Technology Co., Ltd.
http://wangyu.en.alibaba.com/
Hongkong Jincheng Clothing Co., Ltd.
http://xmjincheng.en.alibaba.com/
Jieyu Shoes Factory
http://jieyushoes.en.alibaba.com/
Jinan Fanda E&T Co., Ltd.
http://bozhi.en.alibaba.com/
Jinan Hongshangshen Trading Co., Ltd.
http://hongshangshen.en.alibaba.com/
Jinan Mao Shu Trading Co., Ltd.
http://jnmsmy.en.alibaba.com/
Jinan Rongteyue Trading Co., Ltd.
http://jnrta.en.alibaba.com/
Jing Kou Jewelry (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd.
http://gotosources.en.alibaba.com/
Jiulongpo District Yangjiaping Keyou Office Stationery Sales Department
http://cqfurniture.en.alibaba.com/
Kunming City Xishan District Qianhui Food Factory
http://qianhui01.en.alibaba.com/
Kuteku Shoes Sales Department
http://kuteku.en.alibaba.com/
Liwan District, Guangzhou City, Ok Pitt Snow Keren Shoes
http://bixuekeren.en.alibaba.com/
Longyan Xiangyuan Electronic Co., Ltd.
http://fjxydz.en.alibaba.com/
Loveit Latex Science and Technology Co., Ltd.
http://injo.en.alibaba.com/
Nanchang Aoqi Trade Co., Ltd.
http://ncaqyz.en.alibaba.com/
Nantong Kangen Import And Export Co., Ltd.
http://kangen.en.alibaba.com/
Peng Shi Da
http://rce.en.alibaba.com/
Shanghai Banhua Import & Export Limited Company
http://powertrade.en.alibaba.com/
Shanghai Mingfu Industry Co., Ltd.
http://shmingfu.en.alibaba.com/
Shanghai Yi Shan Technology Co., Ltd.
http://yishan.en.alibaba.com/
http://020.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Futian Xinchuang Business Department
http://sango.en.alibaba.com/
Shiny Light Group Ltd.
http://szxh.en.alibaba.com/
Shuangpai County Jin Hong Material Of Shoes Factory
http://hnjinhong.en.alibaba.com/
Snow Ke Electronics Co., Ltd.
http://sroke.en.alibaba.com/
Spread Joy International Ltd.
http://fzzygj.en.alibaba.com/
Tianjin Yashulai Clothing Co., Ltd.
http://yashulai.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Fengliyuan Clothing Factory
http://xmfengliyuan.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Juyingge Furniture Shop
http://xmjyg.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Tianshi Technology Co., Ltd.
http://xmtianshi.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Xin Dynamic Electrical and Mechanical Equipment Co., Ltd.
http://xmxd.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Yi Zhen Electronic Technology Co., Ltd.
http://yizhen.en.alibaba.com/
http://tianyihetrade.en.alibaba.com/
http://yuang.en.alibaba.com/
http://zjgyongan.en.alibaba.com/
http://applesupplier.en.madeinchina.com/products_2/index.shtml
Do you guys want to see the frauds?I want to post two frauds' photoes here,who are from Weihai Rongtong Material Co., Ltd.The scammed a people from Poland.He was scammed 460 USD.I will keep adding the frauds'photo.If you find or have got any frauds' photo.Hope you post here. Anyway.Never think there is free lunch.If you have already got scamed.If you want to loose your indignation.You can keep calling alibaba and writing the report letter to alibaba.The email address is tradesecurity@service.alibaba.com and alibaba@service.alibaba.com. If the company get 1-3 report letters.The company will get kicked out from alibaba.If you want to let that fraud company down very soon.You can write 1-3 report letters in 3 days.Or if you have a Chinese friend in China.Just ask him or her to call that company and tell them if you don’t refund the money I will call the police.Or You can easily get their IP address in alibaba(in their inquiry orquotation).Tell alibaba their IP address,Threaten them with the IP address.Before It get kicked out from alibaba you might get your hard-earned money back.
Thank you so mucha nd God bless you for taking the time to write such useful article.
I am in a similar situation you mentioned above, and I was about to go down and make TT for 512USD after I read your e-mail, I am doubting.
The company is name ROCluck and they say they are in China, their bnk acnt matches the company name but it is HSBC HongKong, I called their company in China and spoke to the agent I have been dealing with online, it seemed all real. Their e-mail addresses is @rocluck.com could they still be scammers? I even told her that my agent in China couldpick up the products and pay you in cash, she welcomed the idea very much. Please let me know, my e-mail isahallab@gmail.com
Mr. Hallab, Their bank being in Hong Kong doesn't sound like a problem to me, but you should consider that the domain name you refer to, was created in May 21, 2008. So this seems to be a relatively new company.
Quoting from [Amine Hallab]:Can you tell me their website in alibaba?I would like to check that company for ya!!!
Thank you so mucha nd God bless you for taking the time to write such useful article.
I am in a similar situation you mentioned above, and I was about to go down and make TT for 512USD after I read your e-mail, I am doubting.
The company is name ROCluck and they say they are in China, their bnk acnt matches the company name but it is HSBC HongKong, I called their company in China and spoke to the agent I have been dealing with online, it seemed all real. Their e-mail addresses is @rocluck.com could they still be scammers? I even told her that my agent in China couldpick up the products and pay you in cash, she welcomed the idea very much. Please let me know, my e-mail isahallab@gmail.com
Thanks for your suggestion on Save trading over Alibaba. I'm running importing business between Mainland China and my country Myanmar. To be a save payment and to get a real supplier are highest risks of my business.
I'd visited and sent many inquiry mails to www.mofcom.gov.cn" website to ask about "how to verify the Chinese companies registration number and back account" But, no one reply to me.
Do you know the website to verify the company registration and company background? If you knew that, please let me know that. Thank you.
Best regards,
Lin Lin Htun
Quoting from [kolinhtun2006]:
Hi,
Thanks for your suggestion on Save trading over Alibaba. I'm running importing business between Mainland China and my country Myanmar. To be a save payment and to get a real supplier are highest risks of my business.
I'd visited and sent many inquiry mails to www.mofcom.gov.cn" website to ask about "how to verify the Chinese companies registration number and back account" But, no one reply to me.
Do you know the website to verify the company registration and company background? If you knew that, please let me know that. Thank you.
Best regards,
Lin Lin Htun
I am sorry I don't know about the website to verify the company registration and company.
But I would like to give you some suggestions.Choose the company which has at least 2 years in alibaba.And I don't think the company registration can proof it's a real company enough.Because they can make a fake company registration with photoshop or other software.Even if they have a real company registration.They might be a fraud.
Now There are many fraud companies as following:
Shenzhen D & A Trade Limited Company. http://dab2b.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen ZXD Electronical Co., Ltd. http://zxddz.en.alibaba.com/
HK Yongtong Industry Ltd. http://hkyongtong.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei Hegong Construction Machinery Co., Ltd. http://hegong.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei City Binnuo Business Limited Company http://bnb.en.alibaba.com/
Guifa Trade Co., Ltd. http://gzguifa.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Originalsell Trading Company http://cnn.en.alibaba.com/
HK Electron Imports And Exports Ltd. http://hkeiael.en.alibaba.com/
HK Sanxing Industry Ltd http://hksanxing.en.alibaba.com/
Zhengzhou Lamont Trading Co., Ltd. http://lamont.en.alibaba.com/
Keep adding...............
HK Dingli Int'l Ltd http://hkdingli.en.alibaba.com/
Suzhou Beierda Trade Co., Ltd. http://beierda.en.alibaba.com/
Guangxi Nanning Jiguang Trade Co., Ltd. http://gxjiguang.en.alibaba.com/
Shanghai Shidian Trade Co., Ltd. http://shidian.en.alibaba.com/
Guangzhou Huikai Trade Co., Ltd. http://wisekay.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Nuopaisi Trading Co., Ltd. http://nuopaisi.en.alibaba.com/
Epoch Crafts Co., Ltd. http://gygxx.en.alibaba.com/
Guangxi Nanning Hongqian Trade Co., Ltd. http://gxhongqian.en.alibaba.com/
Zhangjiagang Elin Import-Export Trade Limited Company http://elin.en.alibaba.com/
Suzhou Taijing Trade Co., Ltd. http://cntaijing.en.alibaba.com/
Keep adding......
Wang Xiaoyan Private Enterprise http://xnww.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei City Hanya Business Limited Company http://huahanya.en.alibaba.com/
Shapingba District Jiesin Business Department Of The Computer http://jiesin.en.alibaba.com/
Guiyang Changxin Apparel Co., Ltd. http://gychangxin.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Zero Point of Science and Technology Co., Ltd. http://xmhuicheng.en.alibaba.com/
Guiyang Oleady Trading Co., Ltd. http://oleady.en.alibaba.com/
Meili Sousuo http://meilisousuo.en.alibaba.com/
Hittime Trade Co., Ltd. http://hittime.en.alibaba.com/
Guiyang Reap Trade Co., Ltd. http://ruipu.en.alibaba.com/
Guangzhou Xing'er Trade Co., Ltd. http://gzxiner.en.alibaba.com/
Keep adding......
Guizhou Righting Trade Co., Ltd. http://ruiteng.en.alibaba.com/
Guangzhou Suo'ai Ad Co., Ltd. http://tradecool.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Wisk Stationery Co., Ltd. http://wsk.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Retader Trading Co., Ltd. http://rtd.en.alibaba.com/
Yulin City Yuyang District Zhonghao Technology Distribution Foco http://hjdz.en.alibaba.com/
Those are all the gold suppliers.But they all sell original branded products.Especially the original branded laptop and mobile phone.That is to say,they all are scammers.I will keep uploading the company's name and website in alibaba.If you can not find it in alibaba.It means it has got removed.But they might open another fraud company.Then continue to cheat the buyers in alibaba.If you find a fraud company.Please add it here.Then some buyers will be avoid of being cheating.Let's compat the SCAMMERS together.
I will Keep adding the fraud company's name and website in the following posts.
Quoting from[jack_own_biz1]:Guizhou Righting Trade Co., Ltd.http://ruiteng.en.alibaba.com/
Guangzhou Suo'ai Ad Co., Ltd.http://tradecool.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Wisk Stationery Co., Ltd.http://wsk.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Retader Trading Co., Ltd.http://rtd.en.alibaba.com/
Yulin City Yuyang District Zhonghao Technology Distribution Foco http://hjdz.en.alibaba.com/
Those are all the gold suppliers.But they all sell original branded products.Especially the original branded laptop and mobile phone.That is to say,they all are scammers.I will keep uploading the company's name and website in alibaba.If you can find it in alibaba.It means it has got removed.But they might open another fraud company.Then continue to cheat the buyers in alibaba.If you find a fraud company.Please add it here.Then some buyers will be avoid of being cheating.Let's compat the SCAMMERS together.
I * love it. Call those bastards out. I think alibaba should be forced to be a little more stricked on who they let have a gold membership and a trust p *....even the * disclaimer says the verification doesnt meen crap (para-phrased) of course....the thieves are paying alibaba to rip us off. go figure....Alibaba and the 40 thieves... pisses me off to no end.....someone has to be held accountable....I am telling every single pop up sell that tries to sell me something..."do you take visa or master card"? and when they say no....I ask why...they want cash basicaly....who the * does business in cash and never see the face of the person taking it..would they send a product all the way to the U.S.A. and not have some form of garentee they would get there money.....hell no they wouldnt, but they expect us to do it for them....FOOK THAT....get a credit card account