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Save Your Money! The Best Ways To Verify A Company!(Updated 82 more Fraudulent Companies on November 14th 2009)
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Be careful of the scammers!!!
These days I have met so many buyers who said they got scamed in alibaba.Most of them bought the original branded laptop,mobile phone,camera,game console,LCD TV,GPS,MP3/4,etc.And most them are the private person,the people who dreamed that they can do drop ship business in the original branded products.They will be rich.When they find out the prices are so low.They are very excited,just like just found out a new land.Or they just wanna have a try.I fthey can get the original products with very low price.Some people know it might be a scam.But they still wanna have a risk.Finally they got scammed.Because they are lack of the experience of buying something from internet.And I met someone who got scammed twice,someone even got scammed 3 times.

So I wanna give the buyers who want to buy the original branded products some suggestions.

First I wanna tell you there isNO RIDICULOUSLY CHEAP original branded products at all in alibaba.But why there are so many buyers got ripped off.Just because they think the products from China are so cheap.Maybe they think there are so many products which are "Made in China" around them.And China is a World Factory.Another aspact,they might have met several fraud companies.They all quote the buyers very low price.That's why they think the products from China are so cheap.So they would get ripped off easily.Just think about it.If you can get a so weird cheap original branded product.,just like a original iPhone 3G 8GB is 200 USD.Then everybody in the world would like to buy it in alibaba.Then the iPhone agent can't do anything business.The branded company won't sell the branded products in bulk on the internet.They have regular distribution channel.Their distribution is generally like this:Factory--General agent--Agent--Customer.They don't have to warry about the distribution channel,so they don't have to sell them on internet in bulk.

The gold and trustpass suppliers which sell low price original branded products in alibaba must be scamers.For example,they offer Dell,Sony,HP,Apple,laptop,etc.And iPhone,Nokia,Sumsung cellphone,etc.They never send you what you have ordered.They might send you one pair of shoes or one pcs of T-shirt.JUST BE CAREFUL!!!

The frauds usually use the following ways to make you get ripped off.
1.Ridiculous,weird and low price to attract you.Such as they sell Dell XPS M1730 by $400,even $300.Some frauds will tell you the 1/2,1/4 or 3/4 of the real price to attract you.If you ask them why it’s so cheap.They will tell you their products are contraband(gray import).They don’t have to pay the tax.Or They claim they got the goods from factory directly.That’s why they are so cheap.Then some buyers will easily get trapped.Don’t believe it.That’s bullsh it.[em6]
2.They claim that they are the gold and trustpass supplier in alibaba.Yes,they are the gold and trustpass suppliers.But they can easliy get the so-called "gold and trustpass" supplier authentication.[em6]

3.They usually use female name to attract the buyer.And always use a photo of sexy or beatiful girl on their TradeManager,MSN and Yahoo Messenger even they are males.[em6]
4.They just accept Western Union,Moneygram,T/T for payment way.That is too say,they just get the money first.After they get the money,they won't care about you.If you wanna their b ank account.Some company will tell you if they use b ank account they will pay the tax.They will ask you to pay more.Actually,they don’t have a company b ank account at all.Some buyers don’t wanna pay more.So they would like to use that one of 3 payment ways finally.Then they got scammed.[em6]
5.Some fraudulent companies sell the copy products as original products.Mostly they sell copy mobile phone,handbag,shoes,garments.They can't sell copy laptop and camera.Because to produce laptop and camera is needing high technology.So some companies claim that they have copy branded laptop.They must be a fraudulent company.The don't have it at all.[em6]
6.If you have ordered some original branded products.They will try every way to delay the time to send you what you ordered.Because they don't have any original product.They will say your package is kept in the Custom.Or the delivery company lost the package.Or they just give you the fake tracking number.Then you just wait and wait......,wait one week,one month,two month......,Or they will say your package is kept in the Custom,you need to pay more moeny for the tax.(why not they tell you there is tax to the Custom before you dealed with them).If you get that kinda news.Then you will know you have got ripped off.As I know.The fraud company will be removed out from alibabaafter they get 1-3 report letters in alibaba.That's why they will try every way to find the excuses not to send you the package.[em6]
7.They usually don't live where the address in the company's website.They usually live in another city.If you are in China and want their address.Don't go there.It's not exist.Even if it's exist.They are not there.[em6]

8.There are many free memebers are a frauds.The frauds who are free members are from Europe,Japan,Indonesia,America,etc.Especially Indonesia.[em6]

The methods toverify if a company are a fraud or not.
1.If you still want to buy the original braned products.Just ask them to show you the export Licence.If They can't show you.It might be a fraud company.If a company do show you,they might get a fake export certificate.They can use photeshop to make it so real.Some buyer request the pictures of the original branded products. The company will show them.Then some buyers will believe it.But the fraud company just got them on the internet.So Just BE CAREFUL.

2.You can pretend to be in China.Or you can pretend to have a Chinese friend in China.Tell them you or your Chinese friend will visit their company.If they don't speak to you anymore.It must be a frand company.Because they are afraid of Chinese people.Chinese people can easily call the police.But some frauds know you just want to investigate them.They know you are not in China.And they will tell you:Welcome to our company.Then tell you address where you can't find them.

3.You can sign up a trademanager ID from another country with another name.(You might think you can't sign up a trademanager ID from another country.But you can.Just try it.)Then just use your two IDs to ask them one product.Such as originaliPhone 3G 8GB.If they sell it to your first IDat $200.Then after one or two days to ask them if they will sell it to you at $100 with your another ID.(But don't ask them with your another ID right away.Because they might find out you arethe same person.)If they will give you at $100.They must be a big scammer.As long as they can get the money.They can give you at $50 or $30 or even $1.
4.If the company’s website(except the one in alibaba) is very simple.Such as just have some pictures of shoes,garments,mobile phone,laptopetc.
5.If they sell everything.Such as electronics,garments.They must be a fraud.If you say every model of the products.They will say “YES”.How can a real company can supply everything.
6.If they work in the night.They might be a fraud.You should know your time is different from China.A company usually has several Trademanager IDs.You can try to see them all.If they all on line in the night.And they sell international original branded products.They are absolutely frauds.
7.Most of the fraud companies just have 1 year in alibaba.You can see it on the left up side in their company’s website in alibaba.
8.Try to ask every staff of the company for one product.If it is a fraud company you will get many different prices.And the price is a big difference.
9.Go to google to search forthe company's nameand see if it’s a fraud.Also you can go to community in alibaba to search for it.

10.Ask them give you the information of their clients in your country.Ifthey give it to you,try to ask the person's experience which he or she dealed with the company.If their products are so cheap,they must have lot's of clients all over the world.If they can't give you or just give you fake information.They must be frauds.


If you still don't believe what I said.You can use above ways to test some companies what I listed in the following posts.And there are many frauds not justin alibaba,but also in Tradekey and Made-in-China,etc B2B website.After the fraudulent companies get removed in B2B website.They will just spend $2900(in alibaba)to open another fraudulent company to continue to scam peple.From December 1st 2008 to November 14th 2009.I have updated 366 fraudulent companies.Some of them were removed.Some of them are still cheating people in alibaba.Let's figure it out:If one fraudulent company cheat US$30,000.then From December 1st 2008 to November 14th 2009,the fraudulent companies can cheat US$10,980,000.In RMB,It's 74,664,000.It's a huge number.Huh?Plus,there are many fruadulent companies I haven't added.

List82more Fraudulent companies on November 14th 2009.Gosh! So many! Be careful!

Alibaba!!!Please open your eyes!!!Why the h ell you just close you eyes?

A Bond Universal Group Co., Ltd.  http://yabangtrade.en.alibaba.com/
Baimao Trading (Hongkong) Ltd.   http://buymore.en.alibaba.com/
Beijing Hengtongruixun Communications Technology Development Center   http://htrx.en.alibaba.com/
Beijing Pengshunshengtong Store   http://pengshun.en.alibaba.com/
Beijing Yu Quan Century Communication Equipment Sales Department   http://yqcentury.en.alibaba.com/
Boen Industry Co., Ltd.    http://hkboen.en.alibaba.com/
FYT International Trade Ltd.   http://wtogroup.en.alibaba.com/
Omt International HK Co., Ltd.   http://omtintel.en.alibaba.com/
Changsha Zhangshuwu Decorations Shop  http://trade123.en.alibaba.com/
Chengdu Jiarui Trade Co., Ltd.  http://jiazhirui.en.alibaba.com/
Chongqing Neil Clothing Co., Ltd.  http://nierka.en.alibaba.com/
Chongqing Yuzhong District Westem Test Apparatus Business Department   http://westem.en.alibaba.com/
Colinslon Shoes Trading Co., Ltd.   http://tjkelin.en.alibaba.com/
Liwan District, Guangzhou City, Ok Pitt Snow Keren Shoes   http://bixuekeren.en.alibaba.com/
Foshan City Yelin Economy And Trade Co., Ltd.    http://fsyelin.en.alibaba.com/
Fuzhou Zhongying Electron and Technology Co., Ltd.   http://cnseller998.en.alibaba.com/
Global Sportwear     http://sportwear.en.alibaba.com/
Glory Straight Co., Ltd.    http://glorystraight.en.alibaba.com/
Guiyang Feipeng Commerce & Trading Co., Ltd.    http://gyfp.en.alibaba.com/
Guizhou Chongan Trade Co., Ltd.    http://zoan.en.alibaba.com/
Hangzhou Panfeng Glass Co., Ltd.    http://goldenwto.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei Huanelu Trade Co., Ltd.    http://huanelu.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei Huanilu Trade Co., Ltd.    http://familer.en.alibaba.com/
Hefei Wenxing Trade Co., Ltd .    http://hfwenxing.en.alibaba.com/
HK Shengdatong Group Ltd.    http://hkshengdatong.en.alibaba.com/
Hong Kong (Jinyan) International Technology Ltd.   http://hkjinyan.en.alibaba.com/
Hong Kong Hense Industrial Co., Ltd.    http://hxsycn.en.alibaba.com/
Hong Kong Tian Yang Group Co., Ltd.    http://tianyangtrade.en.alibaba.com/
Hong Kong Wang Yu Technology Co., Ltd.   http://wangyu.en.alibaba.com/
Jiahe Technology (HK) Co., Ltd.    http://kahe.en.alibaba.com/
Jiaxing Taxin Shoes Co., Ltd.    http://jxtaxin.en.alibaba.com/
Jieyu Shoes Factory    http://jieyushoes.en.alibaba.com/
Jilin Jinman Business Trading Co., Ltd.   http://jiao.en.alibaba.com/
Jilin Yihui Business Trading Co., Ltd.  http://jlyihui.en.alibaba.com/
Jinan Danxingxian Commerce and Trade Co., Ltd.     http://dxxsm.en.alibaba.com/
Jing Kou Jewelry (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd.    http://gotosources.en.alibaba.com/
Jinjiang Huake Shoes Manufacturing Co., Ltd.    http://wakeshoes.en.alibaba.com/
Jinjiang Wang Sheng Electronics Firm   http://fjwangsheng.en.alibaba.com/
 Linhao Trade Co., Ltd.    http://clothtrade.en.alibaba.com//index.html
 Longyan Xiangyuan Electronic Co., Ltd.    http://fjxydz.en.alibaba.com/
Loohii Trade Co., Ltd.    http://loohii.en.alibaba.com/
Lucky Dragon Trading Ltd.    http://longfu369.en.alibaba.com/
Nanchang Aoqi Trade Co., Ltd.    http://ncaqyz.en.alibaba.com/
Nanchang Xin Yang Medical Equipment Co., Ltd.    http://fjyida.en.alibaba.com/
Nantong Kangen Import And Export Co., Ltd.    http://kangen.en.alibaba.com/
Panfeng Glass Co., Ltd.    http://meimeitrade.en.alibaba.com/
PT. Tirta Bhuwana Asri    http://www.alibaba.com/member/id101804470.html
Qingdao Label Packaging Machinery Co., Ltd.    http://lzhaimeng.en.alibaba.com/
Qinhuangdao Fengshi Business Trading Co., Ltd.   http://chinafshi.en.alibaba.com/
Shanghai Huafeng Industrial Co., Ltd.   http://walkonbiz.en.alibaba.com/
Shanghai Jifute Trading Co., Ltd.    http://ectrading.en.alibaba.com/
Shanghai Sanyang Industrial Co., Ltd.     http://vickbiz.en.alibaba.com/
Shanghai Songjiang District Jiuting Town Jiuting Xuezhi Communication Equipment Business Dept.    http://xuezhi.en.alibaba.com/
Shantou City Chaonan Section Chendian Forever Electronic Business    http://szyh.en.alibaba.com/
Shenyang Across Business Consulting Co., Ltd.    http://bestbuy.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Futian Kallyder Electronic Business Department    http://rtd.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Icsmar Trade Co., Ltd.    http://icsmar.en.alibaba.com/
Shenzhen Seven Star Technology Co., Ltd.   http://szsevenstar.en.alibaba.com/
Shi Jia Technology (HK) Co., Ltd.    http://shijiamy.en.alibaba.com/
Shui Yue International Trading Ltd.   http://shuiyue.en.alibaba.com/
Shun Fat Herb Medicine Trading Company    http://shunfatherb.en.alibaba.com/
Spread Joy International Ltd.    http://fzzygj.en.alibaba.com/
Alfa Industry Co., Ltd.   http://usb-hitech.en.alibaba.com/
Taisheng Electronic Firm    http://yctaisheng.en.alibaba.com/
Vip-Supplier Co., Ltd.   http://vip-supplier.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Gao Xu Co., Ltd.   http://newfriendship.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Juyingge Furniture Shop   http://xmjyg.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Tianshi Technology Co., Ltd.    http://xmtianshi.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Yan Hong Trade Co., Ltd.   http://xmjinchukou.en.alibaba.com/
Xiamen Zhuxin Industry & Trade Co., Ltd.    http://xmzhuxin.en.alibaba.com/
Xiang Fang International Trading Ltd.    http://xiangfang.en.alibaba.com/
Xishan District (Kunming) Qianhui Food Factory   http://qianhuitwo.en.alibaba.com/
Xueyan Town Wujin District Changzhou City Caoqiao Golden Sunshine Clothing Shop    http://wugoldship.en.alibaba.com/  
Xuhui (International) Trading Co., Ltd.    http://xuhuihk.en.alibaba.com/
Yao Xin International Trading (Hong Kong) Co., Ltd.   http://yaoxincn.en.alibaba.com/
Ye Xujie (Sole Trader)   http://ywliu.en.alibaba.com/
Yichang Taisheng Electronic Firm    http://yclijianxin.en.alibaba.com/
Yong'an Banliang Baby House    http://banliang.en.alibaba.com/
Yongchun Hongtai Shoes & Apparel Firm    http://ycht.en.alibaba.com/
Yuyang District Yulin City Xinyilian Cloth Firm    http://xinyilian.en.alibaba.com/
Zhenjiang Junfu Handicrafts Co., Ltd.    http://zjjunfu.en.alibaba.com/
Zhenxin Technology Co., Ltd.    http://szzhenxin.en.alibaba.com/

Do you guys want to see the frauds?I want to post two frauds' photoes here,who are from Weihai Rongtong Material Co., Ltd.The scammed a people from Poland.He was scammed 460 USD.I will keep adding the frauds'photo.If you find or have got any frauds' photo.Hope you post here.

Anyway.Never think there is free lunch.If you have already got scamed.If you want to loose your indignation.You can keep calling alibaba and writing the report letter to alibaba.The email address is tradesecurity@service.alibaba.com and alibaba@service.alibaba.com. If the company get 1-3 report letters.The company will get kicked out from alibaba.If you want to let that fraud company down very soon.You can write 1-3 report letters in 3 days.Or if you have a Chinese friend in China.Just ask him or her to call that company and tell them if you don’t refund the money I will call the police.Or You can easily get their IP address in alibaba(in their inquiry orquotation).Tell alibaba their IP address,Threaten them with the IP address.Before It get kicked out from alibaba you might get your hard-earned money back.

01 Dec 2008 04:51
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Quoting from [anwest77]:


thanks for your suggestion.this'very very very good,i have never buy goods from a fake comapny.but i will always keep in mind.you are good!

i am buying the goods from one Chinese company.i have bought laptops three times.i have got my goods,that a good company.if anyone want to contact that company

you can send my a email.i can tell you .they have best serve ,good quality.and i go to his company two times.it's real company

and i suggest alibaba keep strict when choose these company to Golden and trustpass member

welcome!and i hope anyone see my message can contact me.

i hope we can have a good business.and i hope i can get more and more friends in 

laptop business

my email:anwest77@yahoo.co.uk

Jakub Moskala


Jakub.According to your email addressanwest77@yahoo.co.uk. "uk" shows you might be from United Kindom.That means your English must be very good.But I doubt if you are a British.Becaus from what you said "this'very very very good" should be "


this is very very very good".You lost "is"."i have never buy goods from a fake comapny" should be "i have never bought goods from a fake company"."i go to his company two times" should be "i have been to his company two times".And there are many wrong words for the grammer.I wonder how could you made those kinda fool mistakes if you are British.The way you were using English looks like you are a Chinese.I know Chinese and I know Chinese English.Plus,anyone in any country can sigh up an email address from "uk".OK! You might be careless for those mistakes.Or you might a Chinese who live in United Kindom.Did you buy the original branded laptop from the company you have been to?Why not show the company's name and website in alibaba here?If you bought the original branded laptops from that company.In my mind I think you are a Chinese who live in China.A fraud from one above fraud companies.Because you can not buy the original branded laptop in bulk from a company in China.You are just pretending a guy who have  bought the laptop from so-called real company.You are trying to make some buyers to believe in you and tell them you company is a real company.Then you will scam them.

   I want to worn the buyers who are gonna contact Jacub Moskala.Be careful about that guy.If you still wanna contact Jacub.Please ask for his or her phone number in United Kindom.And try to see him or her.See if he or she looks like a British and see if he or she is in United Kindom.If he or she give you a phone number.And you can see if the area code is from United Kindom.And try to call him or her speak with him or her.

06 Dec 2008 12:50
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Quoting from [jack_own_biz1]:

Quoting from [anwest77]:


thanks for your suggestion.this'very very very good,i have never buy goods from a fake comapny.but i will always keep in mind.you are good!

i am buying the goods from one Chinese company.i have bought laptops three times.i have got my goods,that a good company.if anyone want to contact that company

you can send my a email.i can tell you .they have best serve ,good quality.and i go to his company two times.it's real company

and i suggest alibaba keep strict when choose these company to Golden and trustpass member

welcome!and i hope anyone see my message can contact me.

i hope we can have a good business.and i hope i can get more and more friends in 

laptop business

my email:anwest77@yahoo.co.uk

Jakub Moskala


Jakub.According to your email addressanwest77@yahoo.co.uk. "uk" shows you might be from United Kindom.That means your English must be very good.But I doubt if you are a British.Becaus from what you said "this'very very very good" should be "



this is very very very good".You lost "is"."i have never buy goods from a fake comapny" should be "i have never bought goods from a fake company"."i go to his company two times" should be "i have been to his company two times".And there are many wrong words for the grammer.I wonder how could you made those kinda fool mistakes if you are British.The way you were using English looks like you are a Chinese.I know Chinese and I know Chinese English.Plus,anyone in any country can sigh up an email address from "uk".OK! You might be careless for those mistakes.Or you might a Chinese who live in United Kindom.Did you buy the original branded laptop from the company you have been to?Why not show the company's name and website in alibaba here?If you bought the original branded laptops from that company.In my mind I think you are a Chinese who live in China.A fraud from one above fraud companies.Because you can not buy the original branded laptop in bulk from a company in China.You are just pretending a guy who have  bought the laptop from so-called real company.You are trying to make some buyers to believe in you and tell them you company is a real company.Then you will scam them.

   I want to worn the buyers who are gonna contact Jacub Moskala.Be careful about that guy.If you still wanna contact Jacub.Please ask for his or her phone number in United Kindom.And try to see him or her.See if he or she looks like a British and see if he or she is in United Kindom.If he or she give you a phone number.And you can see if the area code is from United Kindom.And try to call him or her speak with him or her.



great,I couldn't agree with you more![em19]
08 Dec 2008 22:09
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great,I couldn't agree with you more![em19]

You couldn't agree with whom?
09 Dec 2008 02:10
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One more Fraud company.Be careful!

Suzhou Shengyiguo Trade Co., Ltd.  http://shengyiguo.en.alibaba.com/

09 Dec 2008 02:12
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One more fraud company.Be careful!

HK Carsfans Imports And Exports Trading Ltd.

http://yingxinhk.en.alibaba.com/

It sell Dell XPS M1730.Obviously It's fake company(12.10.2008).It looks like a new company.Because they just displayed around 100 products in alibaba.Usually a fake company has thousouds of products displayed in alibaba.So I think it's new.

09 Dec 2008 21:58
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Quoting from [jack_own_biz1]:

One more fraud company.Be careful!

HK Carsfans Imports And Exports Trading Ltd.

http://yingxinhk.en.alibaba.com/

It sell Dell XPS M1730.Obviously It's fake company(12.10.2008).It looks like a new company.Because they just displayed around 100 products in alibaba.Usually a fake company has thousouds of products displayed in alibaba.So I think it's new.


The queation is why should Alibaba continue to allow these Fake Companies to use thier web site. Propably they supported them you konw. They would have check thier activites if they realy want to. Make registration in detail. Insist on certain id or  some condition to be met before your company or your registration can be activated.In this way their activites will be reduce
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Hello, Can anyone has done trade with this company, I want to know if I can trust in it


Lezestar (HK) Science & Technology Co., Ltd.  It is OEM suplier, does that guarentee that i wont be scammed?
11 Dec 2008 02:35
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One more new fraud company.Be careful!

Lianyungang City Yiguan Stone Co., Ltd.

http://lygyghgs.en.alibaba.com/

11 Dec 2008 03:37
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Quoting from [jack_own_biz1]:

One more Fraud company.Be careful!!!

Shenzhen Yingxin Technology Co., Ltd.  http://yingxinhk.en.alibaba.com/



Guangxi Boying International Trading Co. Ltd.

Is anyone have some informations of this company. I thik this is also a fraud.

12 Dec 2008 03:47
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Quoting from [handmadecollections]:

Quoting from [jack_own_biz1]:

One more Fraud company.Be careful!!!

Shenzhen Yingxin Technology Co., Ltd.  http://yingxinhk.en.alibaba.com/




Guangxi Boying International Trading Co. Ltd.

Is anyone have some informations of this company. I thik this is also a fraud.



I want to confirm if those two company are scammer?

Able (HK) Industry Co., Ltd --> 5 years gold member

Shenzhen Honets Electronic Technology Development Co., Ltd --> 2 years gold member

 

15 Dec 2008 12:05
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