What is the best way to trace and shut down fraud on Alibaba.
Post 1 of 26
Am trying to set up a 24/7 anti fraud command centre. I live in W Africa Nigeria where we have the highest rate of fraud and it makes it impossible to do International business.
One of the B2B website that i visited have this on their website your IP address is recorded everytime you visit their web site.
Your IP address (60.170.30.130) is recorded to trace fraud.
This will be good on Alibaba if IP addresses are recorded everytime you visit and it could be traced and shut down so that IP address can never log on to Alibaba again
So i need suggetion on how to work this command centre i will give the best solution 50 value point
Not opening a website and reporting scammers i need something more sophisticated as the scammers get sophisticated everyday.
One of the B2B website that i visited have this on their website your IP address is recorded everytime you visit their web site.
Your IP address (60.170.30.130) is recorded to trace fraud.
This will be good on Alibaba if IP addresses are recorded everytime you visit and it could be traced and shut down so that IP address can never log on to Alibaba again
So i need suggetion on how to work this command centre i will give the best solution 50 value point
Not opening a website and reporting scammers i need something more sophisticated as the scammers get sophisticated everyday.
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05 Mar 2007 03:46
Post 2 of 26
Replying to [Sherry]:
It will never work, unless you have a fixed line and even then it's not guaranteed. We have broadband on our Server, with 4 static IP Address's and our IP Address changes everytime we log onto the Host Server.
Most if not some of the scams can be operated from Internet Cafes, if you visit 8 - 10 Cafes to conduct business on Alibaba.com for instance, you now have 8 - 10 different IP Address's.
What do you do, shut down all the Internet Cafes.
But then again, you could be a scammer, I dont know.....and I may have just given you new information to pass on. The question is who do you trust.
My answer is easy I dont trust anyone, not even on this site.
It will never work, unless you have a fixed line and even then it's not guaranteed. We have broadband on our Server, with 4 static IP Address's and our IP Address changes everytime we log onto the Host Server.
Most if not some of the scams can be operated from Internet Cafes, if you visit 8 - 10 Cafes to conduct business on Alibaba.com for instance, you now have 8 - 10 different IP Address's.
What do you do, shut down all the Internet Cafes.
But then again, you could be a scammer, I dont know.....and I may have just given you new information to pass on. The question is who do you trust.
My answer is easy I dont trust anyone, not even on this site.
05 Mar 2007 17:23
Post 3 of 26
Replying to [Sherry]:thanks for your reply. this forum was set up to help people and to avoid being scammed to also learned from other peoples mistake. We need constructive criticism not rude reply. I have been on Alibaba since 2001 never been scamed and never scamed anyone. Time is a very good judge of Character. And you know why i do my due dilligence and i dont let greed control my descition i investigate thoroughly. Not a scamer and never will be a scammer. Anyone can get scammed but let it be known that you have done every investigation before you part with your money. Hope u understand this.
Lets build constructive people up and bring down destructive people.
Lets build constructive people up and bring down destructive people.
07 Mar 2007 01:08
Post 4 of 26
Replying to [Sherry]:
come on sherry' its not bcoz of fraud itself and u cant trace or shut down it if it appear on alibaba..! u know what url or website advertisement mean? sometimes u'll found website that u expected might b fraud but u never know that its might b paid advertisement that advertised on the website itself. how to shut down it if its make money....?![[em10]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_silly.gif)
make ur life easy then thinking complexity as sotisficated bla bla bla...
come on sherry' its not bcoz of fraud itself and u cant trace or shut down it if it appear on alibaba..! u know what url or website advertisement mean? sometimes u'll found website that u expected might b fraud but u never know that its might b paid advertisement that advertised on the website itself. how to shut down it if its make money....?
make ur life easy then thinking complexity as sotisficated bla bla bla...
07 Mar 2007 03:27
Post 5 of 26
Replying to [Sherry]:
Fighting Fraud check thisout
.http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/38632/Fighting_Fraud_And_Scammers_If_you_ve_be_doped_check_here_.htm
Fighting Fraud check thisout
.http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/38632/Fighting_Fraud_And_Scammers_If_you_ve_be_doped_check_here_.htm
23 Mar 2007 20:31
Post 6 of 26
Replying to [Sherry]:
To be quite honest, and in all seriousness, I think it doesnt matter, where alibaba is concerned anyway. I think this site its self is playing a huge part in the fraud. They protect gold members ans trust pass holders no matter what the cost, as long as they are still collecting their benjimans, why else would they insist on removing threads that us buyers post to PROTECT other buyers, in an attempt to save another from taking losses.
They protect you if you pay, and "authenticate" you if you pay, with nothing rock solid backing it to protect the users.
To be quite honest, and in all seriousness, I think it doesnt matter, where alibaba is concerned anyway. I think this site its self is playing a huge part in the fraud. They protect gold members ans trust pass holders no matter what the cost, as long as they are still collecting their benjimans, why else would they insist on removing threads that us buyers post to PROTECT other buyers, in an attempt to save another from taking losses.
They protect you if you pay, and "authenticate" you if you pay, with nothing rock solid backing it to protect the users.
23 Mar 2007 20:51
Post 7 of 26
Replying to [Sherry]:
I agree on that part. I sent a e-mail to alibaba.com for a moment ago, regarding a scam that I have been involved in. I got a shoe in my package, when I really should have gotten a laptop!. belive me, im not exactly happy :s. And these are gold suppliers.
I agree on that part. I sent a e-mail to alibaba.com for a moment ago, regarding a scam that I have been involved in. I got a shoe in my package, when I really should have gotten a laptop!. belive me, im not exactly happy :s. And these are gold suppliers.
04 Apr 2007 05:37
Post 8 of 26
Replying to [Sherry]:
Actually, you have baught from them previously also, saw a post from you earlier, does "Bishui" tell you anything?. Tried to chat with you, but, it wouldent work. I need to have a premium membership to chat with you apperantly, could you e-mail me or something?. If you can the address is qxl (at) wds (dot) no .. Thanks.
Actually, you have baught from them previously also, saw a post from you earlier, does "Bishui" tell you anything?. Tried to chat with you, but, it wouldent work. I need to have a premium membership to chat with you apperantly, could you e-mail me or something?. If you can the address is qxl (at) wds (dot) no .. Thanks.
04 Apr 2007 05:39
Post 9 of 26
Replying to [Sherry]:
Alibaba works pretty much hand in hand with the scammers!
I reported a scammer who never shipped me the snowblower I
purchased, never alibaba replied to me, and still this seller continues
to scam people on this site.
So, I'm pretty fed up with Alibaba and all that sh*t.
I'm reporting both the seller and this website Alibaba
to internet fraud organisms in my country.
Dan Leroux
Alibaba works pretty much hand in hand with the scammers!
I reported a scammer who never shipped me the snowblower I
purchased, never alibaba replied to me, and still this seller continues
to scam people on this site.
So, I'm pretty fed up with Alibaba and all that sh*t.
I'm reporting both the seller and this website Alibaba
to internet fraud organisms in my country.
Dan Leroux
13 Mar 2008 20:49
Post 10 of 26
Replying to [Sherry]:
Without scammers, Alibaba has no clicks in the webstatistic !
Only for that, the discussion boards and this community are developed !
Moderators will be used as a tool, but more and more of them have recognized the cheat, they work for !
Alibaba is not interested to clean the boards, in the moment the scammer bring web presence and clicks for Alibaba, a small other effect is the fee they pay to do their scams without being controlled or punished from Alibaba ! They do both the same for the community !!! Cheat !!!
A crow does not chop another crow an eye out !
![[em16]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_applause.gif)
Without scammers, Alibaba has no clicks in the webstatistic !
Only for that, the discussion boards and this community are developed !
Moderators will be used as a tool, but more and more of them have recognized the cheat, they work for !
Alibaba is not interested to clean the boards, in the moment the scammer bring web presence and clicks for Alibaba, a small other effect is the fee they pay to do their scams without being controlled or punished from Alibaba ! They do both the same for the community !!! Cheat !!!
A crow does not chop another crow an eye out !
14 Mar 2008 01:29
Post 11 of 26
BINGO!!!, FOR SOME REASON ! THEY HAVE A FILE OF * IN ALIBABA THINKING THAT ALIBABA IS THE HONEST SITE IN THE PLANET, ALIBABA IS COMPROMISE FROM THE GITCO, AND ALIBABA HAS NOT DONE NOTHING TO PREVENT THIS SCAMBAG TO OPERATE, I WOULD FILE A COMPLAINT ON BEHALF OF THE * IN THIS SITE TO START IMPLEMENTING HARD CORE SECURITY TO PROTECT THOSE * THAT WIRE TRANFER THEIR MONEY TO PEOPLE OR BUSINESSES THAT THEY DONT HAVE A CLUE WITH. I'LL SAY SUE THIS SITE FOR ALLOWING SCAM TO OPERATE. BY THEN, THEY WILL POLICE THE SITE IN BUSINESS MANNER.![[em20]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_victory.gif)
21 Mar 2008 01:48