Hi every one!


Let me share bad experience when trying to buy snowboard...

We searched alot of companies along alibaba and another sources and see that indonesian companies sells very vey cheap and we tried a lot to trade with an indonesian company.


All these companies are scammers.


We call the indonesian trade counselleur of my company he visited these companies and guess what? nobody knows them.Wrong adress, wrong names.......Our trade counselleur told to us it is highly dangerous to trade with indonesia cos all them internet scammers.


Let me share which companies that i have searched.



www.snowsboard.com == also they created a fake shipping company called lindasdunia express also they are saying that cargo is free.....****...


Snowboard stationery == snowboardstationary@hotmail.com ......same ssshhttt , color is different...they will send you ups tracking number then they assume that cargo is ready to go ...send money......they open a ups account and ups give them invoices..then they call ups "" we have cargo here is your invoice then give us tracking number""....but there is no nowboard ......thats happens when they asking for a money.



www.qua-marine.com.....scam


http://www.alatshopping.com/index.php .......scamm



plese do 3 things before make a deal..


1- is adress real?Search for postal codes on net....

2- look for who.is for more information.

3- Call your countries trade counselleur in this country...to search records of company

4- Never never wire money or similer payment term

5- NEVER TRADE WITH INDONESIA


Hope these infos work for you...



P.S: Some of Burton and Rossignol apperal manufacturing in indonesia this is true but not snowboards!!!!



Mehmet Onur

Quoting from [infomest]:


Hi every one!



Let me share bad experience when trying to buy snowboard...


We searched alot of companies along alibaba and another sources and see that indonesian companies sells very vey cheap and we tried a lot to trade with an indonesian company.



All these companies are scammers.



We call the indonesian trade counselleur of my company he visited these companies and guess what? nobody knows them.Wrong adress, wrong names.......Our trade counselleur told to us it is highly dangerous to trade with indonesia cos all them internet scammers.



Let me share which companies that i have searched.




www.snowsboard.com == also they created a fake shipping company called lindasdunia express also they are saying that cargo is free..... ...



Snowboard stationery == snowboardstationary@hotmail.com ......same ssshhttt , color is different...they will send you ups tracking number then they assume that cargo is ready to go ...send money......they open a ups account and ups give them invoices..then they call ups "" we have cargo here is your invoice then give us tracking number""....but there is no nowboard ......thats happens when they asking for a money.




www.qua-marine.com.....scam



http://www.alatshopping.com/index.php .......scamm




plese do 3 things before make a deal..



1- is adress real?Search for postal codes on net....


2- look for who.is for more information.


3- Call your countries trade counselleur in this country...to search records of company


4- Never never wire money or similer payment term


5- NEVER TRADE WITH INDONESIA



Hope these infos work for you...




P.S: Some of Burton and Rossignol apperal manufacturing in indonesia this is true but not snowboards!!!!




Mehmet Onur

sad to hear,  next time not only with indonesian company you must verify before dealing us other independent party to make verify as posible as for you.

collect their legal and real not virtual company.

in indonesia you may choose one from this community member to do that.

I have tried to collect many trade leads posted from indonesian scammers and report them to alibaba.com to remove from the web-site.

But, alibaba.com did not take any action. The scammers posted branded electric wheelchairs and other hospital equipments with cheap prices.


This situation can spoil genuine traders from indonesia. I think that alibaba is not concerned about this issue.


Regards,

Rafli

Hi,
Please DONOT BLAME ALL THE INDONESIANS, just because you were cheated by  one person from Indonesia.   Give me one country in this world  that does not have cheaters. I have a Textile business since many years in Denpasar-Bali-Indonesia and I have not cheated anybody in all these years. So please because of people  like you honest traders like me are also not trusted. You  should have checked your steps, before you closed the deal, so don't blame all the Indonesians for your fall.  THERE ARE MANY HONEST TRADERS IN INDONESIA

Zeenat  Textiles
33, Gajahmada Street
Denpasar-Bali
INDONESIA
Tel: 62-361-226977
rrashida9@gmail.com

Quoting from [seratjati]:

Quoting from [infomest]:



Hi every one!




Let me share bad experience when trying to buy snowboard...



We searched alot of companies along alibaba and another sources and see that indonesian companies sells very vey cheap and we tried a lot to trade with an indonesian company.




All these companies are scammers.




We call the indonesian trade counselleur of my company he visited these companies and guess what? nobody knows them.Wrong adress, wrong names.......Our trade counselleur told to us it is highly dangerous to trade with indonesia cos all them internet scammers.




Let me share which companies that i have searched.





www.snowsboard.com == also they created a fake shipping company called lindasdunia express also they are saying that cargo is free..... ...




Snowboard stationery == snowboardstationary@hotmail.com ......same ssshhttt , color is different...they will send you ups tracking number then they assume that cargo is ready to go ...send money......they open a ups account and ups give them invoices..then they call ups "" we have cargo here is your invoice then give us tracking number""....but there is no nowboard ......thats happens when they asking for a money.





www.qua-marine.com.....scam




http://www.alatshopping.com/index.php .......scamm





plese do 3 things before make a deal..




1- is adress real?Search for postal codes on net....



2- look for who.is for more information.



3- Call your countries trade counselleur in this country...to search records of company



4- Never never wire money or similer payment term



5- NEVER TRADE WITH INDONESIA




Hope these infos work for you...





P.S: Some of Burton and Rossignol apperal manufacturing in indonesia this is true but not snowboards!!!!





Mehmet Onur

sad to hear,  next time not only with indonesian company you must verify before dealing us other independent party to make verify as posible as for you.


collect their legal and real not virtual company.


in indonesia you may choose one from this community member to do that.

Hello i would like to buy a buy a Mutoh printer since all the options come from Indonesia, can you help me find a safe way to make a reasonable and good deal with a real company?

 

 

Best regards....Mario.

Quoting from [matizado64]:

Quoting from [seratjati]:

Quoting from [infomest]:




Hi every one!





Let me share bad experience when trying to buy snowboard...




We searched alot of companies along alibaba and another sources and see that indonesian companies sells very vey cheap and we tried a lot to trade with an indonesian company.





All these companies are scammers.





We call the indonesian trade counselleur of my company he visited these companies and guess what? nobody knows them.Wrong adress, wrong names.......Our trade counselleur told to us it is highly dangerous to trade with indonesia cos all them internet scammers.





Let me share which companies that i have searched.






www.snowsboard.com == also they created a fake shipping company called lindasdunia express also they are saying that cargo is free..... ...





Snowboard stationery == snowboardstationary@hotmail.com ......same ssshhttt , color is different...they will send you ups tracking number then they assume that cargo is ready to go ...send money......they open a ups account and ups give them invoices..then they call ups "" we have cargo here is your invoice then give us tracking number""....but there is no nowboard ......thats happens when they asking for a money.






www.qua-marine.com.....scam





http://www.alatshopping.com/index.php .......scamm






plese do 3 things before make a deal..





1- is adress real?Search for postal codes on net....




2- look for who.is for more information.




3- Call your countries trade counselleur in this country...to search records of company




4- Never never wire money or similer payment term




5- NEVER TRADE WITH INDONESIA





Hope these infos work for you...






P.S: Some of Burton and Rossignol apperal manufacturing in indonesia this is true but not snowboards!!!!






Mehmet Onur

sad to hear,  next time not only with indonesian company you must verify before dealing us other independent party to make verify as posible as for you.



collect their legal and real not virtual company.



in indonesia you may choose one from this community member to do that.

Hello i would like to buy a buy a Mutoh printer since all the options come from Indonesia, can you help me find a safe way to make a reasonable and good deal with a real company?

 

 

Best regards....Mario.

So get this, I turned some Indonesian * bag in last week for running a

enagic water Ionizer scam , Alibaba cancels there site for fraud, now 10

days later the same products and website is back, same bank, just

requesting the money be sent to a different * bag. Details below.

Lets all turn the lights on so the Roachs Run and Hide!

I totall agree with rrashida9Bali.

How can you make your experience general to all Indonesian companies?

Your should watch your words.

why do you buy from a not existing company? you already checked them?

haha or do you have no money buy a flight to indonesia?

I WAS THINKING OF BUYING SOME "RIDE DH" SNOWBOARDS FROM A COMPANY ON HERE (INDONESIA) CALLED "PT DEFLOTH" I AM REALLY PUT OFF NOW! DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY SUCCESS STORIES OR IF ANY OF THESE ALLEDGED SNOWBOARD SELLERS ARE GENUINE?


I HAVE TOLD MY SUPPLIER TO TAKE A PHOTO HOLDING 2 BOARDS WITH A DATED NEWSPAPER AND MAIL IT TO ME!!  WE WILL SEE IF HE REPLYS!!


THANKS...   FROM  djharris66@googlemail.com    IF ANYONE CAN HELP 

maybe you should earn some money if your based there by checking out these companies for people who are affraid to trade???

can anyone verify "pt defloth"  (indonesia)  they suppy RIDE DH snowboards on alibaba, i am worried about this co!


i asked them to send a photo of someone holding 2 boards as verification!!  NO REPLY E-MAILS!!   ??


            djharris66@googlemail.com

Tips For Foreign Trader

1. Chose the qualified and registered company

2. Look at the company profile, read carefully, see the contact us page, see the details address and make sure that they put mobile number or phone line. Try not to deal if they put a mobile number.

3. Buy available stock only, if you like to make order (for first time) you could give them Down payment, if point 1 and 2 is met.

We will update the tips and trick as long as we can. And if you have and question or need information and need a help, do not hesitate we will give you free information.