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A List of honest Alibaba sellers!
Post 12 of 33
normanich
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A rating system similar to eBay would work and we could all contribute to the listing. Include things like pricing, shipping time, communication, reliability, contact information, quality. It would work and that way everyone would be able to rank any supplier they had contact with. Being able to rank a supplier BEFORE and AFTER making a purchase as sometimes it is the BEFORE interaction that is what determines if you can trust someone as much as the DURING and AFTER the transaction that counts

  [em19]

Quoting from [King Star]:

Quoting from [Business in China]:

Good idea but hard to realize it. Why ? Nobody can guarantee their future credit worldwide. A billionaire can be broken within one month, can't you believe it? [em1]



[em1] I couldn't agree more. To be honest, i don't like to do that kind of job. To list the honest sellers on alibaba? So crazy!  I only can be sure & guarantee our companym credit and distinguish the real customer from their letter by contact information, website, etc. [em7]

25 Sep 2008 05:54
Post 13 of 33
Elisha
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A rating system similar to eBay would work and we could all contribute to the listing. Include things like pricing, shipping time, communication, reliability, contact information, quality. It would work and that way everyone would be able to rank any supplier they had contact with. Being able to rank a supplier BEFORE and AFTER making a purchase as sometimes it is the BEFORE interaction that is what determines if you can trust someone as much as the DURING and AFTER the transaction that counts

Questions:-

1) If buyers saw the ranking and only buy from highly ranked supplier (for the same type of item)...then how about the lower rank one?...

2) What if scammer create anonymous account and rank themselves?...


*sorry because im not familiar with eBay and i don't know how they work..
13 Oct 2008 22:20
Post 14 of 33
YES ,THE E-BAY IDEA IS WORKING WELL .THATS MORE OR LESS WHAT I HAD IN MIND .
WHAT IF ALIBABA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR LACK OF VERIFICATION BY ACTING AS A THIRD PARTY TO REGULATE PAYMENT,LIKE PAYPAL.

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLIES !!

14 Oct 2008 11:06
Post 15 of 33
Quoting from [john black]:


[em17]       JUST AN IDEA


It is like this story:


There is a community of rats, they were growing bigger and stronger in numbers and in their physique.


One day, the House owner decided to get a cat to catch and kill the rats, because he is fed-up with the food on the table went missing and holes in the food cabinet.

The rats call for an AGM, because of the new threat of the cat in the house, the Chief Rat calls for a meeting to discuss how to deal with the cat, as their members are eaten by the cat, and food become scarce.


One smart rat came up with an idea. "Why don't we tie a bell round the cat's neck, and when he is around, we can hear him, and take cover." "That's a great idea," says the Chairman, "but who is going to tie the bell round the cat? Not me, I am too old, and cannot run fast."

"How about you? " retorted the brainy rat, pointing to an over-weight rat. "Not me, I am too fat, and cannot run fast." What about Tiny Turner? But she replied, I have my kids to take care off, and housework to do, I cannot.


There is no body willing to do it, and so the cat continue to eat the rats until their population came down to a few.

Who is going to do that? How will the judgement be right? If  you rate these companies as "honest" and they turn out to default in their deliveries, or quality control, how would the buyer claim?


What about those genuine businesses that are not in the list? Are they considered to be SCAMs?


If you appoint a Police man to catch the crooks, make sure the Police man is not a Bad Cop.


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16 Oct 2008 22:15
Post 16 of 33

Dear,

Its important and already discussed long time back that alibaba should provide some service by which we can manage a list of well performing companies to close alibaba for scammers.

I already requested to alibaba chief to start an "Alibaba Escrow" service by which everybody can better trade with full satisfaction. Alibaba has members all over the world so its easy for alibaba admin to verify and work on this issue.

Best Regards

Asad Zeeshan

29 Oct 2008 07:04
Post 17 of 33
Quoting from [Elisha]:


A rating system similar to eBay would work and we could all contribute to the listing. Include things like pricing, shipping time, communication, reliability, contact information, quality. It would work and that way everyone would be able to rank any supplier they had contact with. Being able to rank a supplier BEFORE and AFTER making a purchase as sometimes it is the BEFORE interaction that is what determines if you can trust someone as much as the DURING and AFTER the transaction that counts

Questions:-


1) If buyers saw the ranking and only buy from highly ranked supplier (for the same type of item)...then how about the lower rank one?...


2) What if scammer create anonymous account and rank themselves?...



*sorry because im not familiar with eBay and i don't know how they work..



Dear Elisha,

These are very good questions. Ranking can only be done by Alibaba admin but still this idea cannot be possible much. Alibaba Escrow service can provide us with better staisfaction. If alibaba admin can have a look into my request and If you guys can also request for alibaba escrow service than I think scammers cannot do business.

Best Regards

Asad Zeeshan

29 Oct 2008 07:07
Post 18 of 33
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Quoting from [john black]:


THANKS FOR REPLY



IT WAS JUST AN IDEA .



A BETTER IDEA WILL BE TO VERIFY ALL SELLERS ,PERIOD.


IFF YOU'RE HONEST AND GENUINE ,NO PROBLEM .



SORRY ,NO PROBLEM WITH YOU'RE COUNTRY ,FRIENDLY PEOPLE ,HOT WOMEN ,BEAUTIFUL PLACE.



I SEARCHED FOR A PRODUCT IN SINGAPORE THE OTHER DAY ,5 COMPANIES WITH SAME DETAILS ,DIFFERENT NAME AND CONTACT PERSON.



WHERE AND HOW IS THE EASIEST TO VERIFY COMPANIES IN INDONESIA ?



THE PRICES FOR THE PRODUCTS I'M SEARCHING FOR IS MORE OR LESS THE SAME ALL OVER THE WORLD ,ONE ASPECT INDONESIAN COMPANIES LACK IS TO VERIFY THEMSELF ,MAYBE IT IS LANGUAGE BARRIER.



I'M SURE IT IS NOT ALWAYS A SCAM BUT MAYBE THEY LACK  BUSINESS EXPERIENCE AND IT MAKES THEM LOOK SUSPICIOUS.



WHAT PRODUCTS OR SERVICES DO YOU PROVIDE ?












MAKITA DEWALT BOSCH  

Stay away from Indonesian sellers. Tool Powers have scammed me for about 1500 usd. They use the fake couriersite www.indotiki.com and give you a trackingnumber as well.. DHL, which was agreed upon to use, is switched with fake indotiki in last minute due to export regulations of minimum order quantity... Is you have some friends with hacker skills, please destroy www.indotiki.com and take away a tool from the scammers..!!!

06 Nov 2008 06:54
Post 19 of 33
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Quoting from [normanich]:

A rating system similar to eBay would work and we could all contribute to the listing. Include things like pricing, shipping time, communication, reliability, contact information, quality. It would work and that way everyone would be able to rank any supplier they had contact with. Being able to rank a supplier BEFORE and AFTER making a purchase as sometimes it is the BEFORE interaction that is what determines if you can trust someone as much as the DURING and AFTER the transaction that counts

  [em19]

Quoting from [King Star]:

Quoting from [Business in China]:

Good idea but hard to realize it. Why ? Nobody can guarantee their future credit worldwide. A billionaire can be broken within one month, can't you believe it? [em1]




[em1] I couldn't agree more. To be honest, i don't like to do that kind of job. To list the honest sellers on alibaba? So crazy!  I only can be sure & guarantee our companym credit and distinguish the real customer from their letter by contact information, website, etc. [em7]



There are hundred ways to eliminate the scammers, but only if they want to. I don't know how much the sale volume that scammers contributed, but I am sure this part of sales are growing well.
13 Nov 2008 10:27
Post 20 of 33
electrokingz
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FCK ALIBABA ANYBODY READ THIS PLEASE BE WARNED YOU WILL BE SCAMMED OUT OF YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!!! 99.9% OF ALL THESE UGLY FLAT FACETED MONKEY LOOKING MUTHA FUKAS IS WORTHLESS ALAIBABA IS DOWN WITH THE SCAM BECAUSE THINK ABOUT THEY ONLY GIVE A TRUST PASS ONLY WITH NO FEEDBACK TO FOLLOW REASON WHY IS YOU WILL READ 99.9% ALL NEGATIVE FEEDBACK!!!!!!!!! SO ALAIBABA WILL NEVER GET ANY CLIENTS??? THAT'S IT FCK A TRUST PASS THAT SHYT MEANS NOTHING BUT SCAM PASS FCK THIS SITE YOU HAVE TO BE A COMPLETE SYCO CRAZY ASSS * TO SEND THESE BROKE UGLY ASSS PIE FACE FAGGOT'S YOUR MONEY YEAH I SAID YOUR BETTER OF GIVING YOU MONEY AWAY TO A BUM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR DOING CHINA IA A POOR AS COUNTRY RELYING ON SUCKAS TO SEND THEM THERE MONEY AGAIN FCK ALAIBABA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THE REST OF THE SCAM SITES LIKE IT!!!!!! DHGATE IS A YOUR BEST BET ATLEAST YOU CAN READ FEEDBACK GO THERE YOU WILL MUCH SAFER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH I GOT SCAMMED BUT I GOT MY MONEY BACK THE HARD WAY!!! FCK ALAIBABA!!!![em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6]
20 Nov 2008 13:55
Post 21 of 33
electrokingz
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FCK ALIBABA ANYBODY READ THIS PLEASE BE WARNED YOU WILL BE SCAMMED OUT OF YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!!! 99.9% OF ALL THESE UGLY FLAT FACETED MONKEY LOOKING MUTHA FUKAS IS WORTHLESS ALAIBABA IS DOWN WITH THE SCAM BECAUSE THINK ABOUT THEY ONLY GIVE A TRUST PASS ONLY WITH NO FEEDBACK TO FOLLOW REASON WHY IS YOU WILL READ 99.9% ALL NEGATIVE FEEDBACK!!!!!!!!! SO ALAIBABA WILL NEVER GET ANY CLIENTS??? THAT'S IT FCK A TRUST PASS THAT SHYT MEANS NOTHING BUT SCAM PASS FUK THIS SITE YOU HAVE TO BE A COMPLETE SYCO CRAZY ASSS * TO SEND THESE BROKE UGLY ASSS PIE FACE FAGGOT'S YOUR MONEY YEAH I SAID YOUR BETTER OF GIVING YOU MONEY AWAY TO A BUM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR DOING CHINA IA A POOR AS COUNTRY RELYING ON SUCKAS TO SEND THEM THERE MONEY AGAIN FCK ALAIBABA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THE REST OF THE SCAM SITES LIKE IT!!!!!! DHGATE IS A YOUR BEST BET ATLEAST YOU CAN READ FEEDBACK GO THERE YOU WILL MUCH SAFER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH I GOT SCAMMED BUT I GOT MY MONEY BACK THE HARD WAY!!! FCK ALAIBABA!!!![em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6][em6]
20 Nov 2008 13:58
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