Quoting from [germex]:The topic "jobs in China" made me think in the other option: self-employed in China.
In the past I have been a language teacher. Part of it was as an employee, while later I was working on my own. And I must say that this was much more rewarding. It's not just that you make more money; it's also because people hold you in higher esteem and you are free to use your time as you like. So maybe this person who is looking for a job should think in the option of working on his own.
Question is, would that be legally possible in China? If yes, what would he have to do? What kind of visa would he need? Or what if he wants to be a trader in China? If for example his brother (or any other family member) did the buying in his home country, he would do the selling in China. - And of course there are many more options.
Please discuss!
i like this sentence "people hold you in higher esteem and you are free to use your time as you like."
but i have to say it is not the real truth. because business exists lots of risk, and it also need begin funds.
so if you have a try empoyed by yourself, there make two opposite results, or you get abundant money, or you will be very poor with loads.
Quoting from [adolphpg]:i like this sentence "people hold you in higher esteem and you are free to use your time as you like."but i have to say it is not the real truth. because business exists lots of risk, and it also need begin funds.
so if you have a try empoyed by yourself, there make two opposite results, or you get abundant money, or you will be very poor with loads.
Do you really need a lot of money to start working on your own? For example, as a language teacher (something I have been doing sometimes in the past) you need a few chairs and a table, a board, markers, and your book. Students buy their own book, of course. That's not a lot of expense!
In fact, almost thirty years ago I started my first business with no money at all. For one day and a half I was visiting prospective customers until I finally found one who paid in advance (for computer repair services). During this time my whole "food" was tap water, because I had no money at all.
That's one of the reasons I like to be self-employed. If you are creative you can solve about any problem! And the credit is all yours! ![[em19]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_great.gif){kind=icon}
What could be more satisfying?
Kenneth I think that you have kind of missed the point of this thread which has led to some confusion.
This thread is about living in China and supporting yourself as a self employed person in China.
What you seem to be referring to is foreigners coming to China to do short term business. That is common, and as you would not be resident in China you could do that work under an F (business) visa. It is a simple process and very common. It does not give you the legal right to start a business in China and employ yourself however!!!
In the case of a foreigner living and working in China (e.g. a self employed business person) a Z visa and resident permit would be required. You cannot get these without sponsorship from an employer which nixes the idea of being self employed in China from a legal perspective.
Quoting from [germex]:The topic "jobs in China" made me think in the other option: self-employed in China.
In the past I have been a language teacher. Part of it was as an employee, while later I was working on my own. And I must say that this was much more rewarding. It's not just that you make more money; it's also because people hold you in higher esteem and you are free to use your time as you like. So maybe this person who is looking for a job should think in the option of working on his own.
Question is, would that be legally possible in China? If yes, what would he have to do? What kind of visa would he need? Or what if he wants to be a trader in China? If for example his brother (or any other family member) did the buying in his home country, he would do the selling in China. - And of course there are many more options.
Please discuss!
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I am a manufacturer of comber spools from India. Our company name is M/S Emmark Industries. We are currently trying to create delaers in china who have contact with textile spinning mills. We have a dealer in Shanxi Province. We are trying to enter other provinces also.
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What city do you live in in China? I may need a diver/translator for an upcoming sales trip to China. Haven't planned a trip yet but am doing preliminary research. I am a licensed car dealer in the USA and want to visit many car dealers in Chinese cities to establish sales contacts. To clarify: I export vehicles from USA to Russia and eastern Europe and hope to establish customer bases in China. Thank you.
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Quoting from [germex]:The topic "jobs in China" made me think in the other option: self-employed in China.
In the past I have been a language teacher. Part of it was as an employee, while later I was working on my own. And I must say that this was much more rewarding. It's not just that you make more money; it's also because people hold you in higher esteem and you are free to use your time as you like. So maybe this person who is looking for a job should think in the option of working on his own.
Question is, would that be legally possible in China? If yes, what would he have to do? What kind of visa would he need? Or what if he wants to be a trader in China? If for example his brother (or any other family member) did the buying in his home country, he would do the selling in China. - And of course there are many more options.
Please discuss!
Quoting from [germex]:Quoting from [Shirley Peng]:The foreigners can work in China free for sure, as i am Chinese and work in Yiwu city. Here all over the city you can see lots of foreigners and their companies or agants here. As here there is the biggest small commodity center in the worlds. Also in other city of China, now more and more foreigners come to China live and work here.
Welcome to China !!
Hi Shirley, do you know what their immigrational status is? Egernia said recently (quote): "No it is not really possible for a foreigner to be self-employed in China unless he/she invests in starting a representative office or establishing some other legal business identity i.e. investing money into China."
Could it be that these foreigners you mention fulfill this requirement?
all foreigners are registed with a company (mostly are trading office) in China, you can get the working visa or anything else for stay easily. You can contact me by email: jeromehz1@gmail.com
Quoting from [Egernia]:No it is not really possible for a foreigner to be self-employed in China unless he/she invests in starting a representative office or establishing some other legal business identity i.e. investing money into China.
L visas are for visitors but do not allow work.
F visas are for business people but are a maximum of six months in duration and do not allow income to be earned locally.
Z visas are for long term foreign residents here for the purposes of work and these are obtained via sponsorship of the employer. Based upon the Z visa the holder can apply for a resident permit. Both of these rely upon the sponsorship of the employer and invalid for work outside of that employer.
So in the scenario you suggest the only possibility that I can see is for the individual to be in China on an F visa collecting a wage from the company back home. But then he/she technically could not teach English here as that would constitute working locally which is illegal under the F visa.
The other alternative would be to be employed under a Z visa and then to do trading work on the side but once again that would technically be illegal.
So you can see that China does not encourage foreign self employed peoples.
Thank you very much for your reply. Its very helpfull.
Quoting from [neoblast]:Really interresting topic!
As I'm coming back to China this winter, I wanted to know if it was possible for me to continue my small eBay business while abroad. After reading all this I'm still not sure if it is legal for me to do this. Any ideas?
If someone could help me on this that would be greatly apreciated!
neoblast,
Will you please give me some ideas on how to start the ebay business in the Philippines? Or how did you start in China. thanks nizarnizar@yahoo.com
As I'm coming back to China this winter, I wanted to know if it was possible for me to continue my small eBay business while abroad. After reading all this I'm still not sure if it is legal for me to do this. Any ideas?
If someone could help me on this that would be greatly apreciated!