The topic "jobs in China" made me think in the other option: self-employed in China.
In the past I have been a language teacher. Part of it was as an employee, while later I was working on my own. And I must say that this was much more rewarding. It's not just that you make more money; it's also because people hold you in higher esteem and you are free to use your time as you like. So maybe this person who is looking for a job should think in the option of working on his own.
Question is, would that be legally possible in China? If yes, what would he have to do? What kind of visa would he need? Or what if he wants to be a trader in China? If for example his brother (or any other family member) did the buying in his home country, he would do the selling in China. - And of course there are many more options.
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Thanks Freddie, that was quite an introduction to the situation for foreigners in China. Unfortunately, that's the same for foreigners in many countries, though the citizens there don't believe it, as they never have to go through these experiences.
Anyway, a teacher is considered a person with a special talent - just like an artist in paint or any other art. So it's easy for him to get a job and a visa. But what if he doesn't want a job - if he wants to work on bis own? Is that possible at all?
Freddie, I'm not planning on working in China. The main reason I asked was curiosity, triggered by the question about jobs in China and the replies that teachers are looked for. And as I love to be self-employed, I was wondering if a foreign teacher in China could do the same, having his own school. That's all!
Quoting from [germex]:Good topic!The topic "jobs in China" made me think in the other option: self-employed in China.
In the past I have been a language teacher. Part of it was as an employee, while later I was working on my own. And I must say that this was much more rewarding. It's not just that you make more money; it's also because people hold you in higher esteem and you are free to use your time as you like. So maybe this person who is looking for a job should think in the option of working on his own.
Question is, would that be legally possible in China? If yes, what would he have to do? What kind of visa would he need? Or what if he wants to be a trader in China? If for example his brother (or any other family member) did the buying in his home country, he would do the selling in China. - And of course there are many more options.
Please discuss!
Quoting from [germex]:The topic "jobs in China" made me think in the other option: self-employed in China.
In the past I have been a language teacher. Part of it was as an employee, while later I was working on my own. And I must say that this was much more rewarding. It's not just that you make more money; it's also because people hold you in higher esteem and you are free to use your time as you like. So maybe this person who is looking for a job should think in the option of working on his own.
Question is, would that be legally possible in China? If yes, what would he have to do? What kind of visa would he need? Or what if he wants to be a trader in China? If for example his brother (or any other family member) did the buying in his home country, he would do the selling in China. - And of course there are many more options.
Please discuss!
I agree that it is much more rewording while work on your own. and I am willing to cooperate with people from worldwide.
No it is not really possible for a foreigner to be self-employed in China unless he/she invests in starting a representative office or establishing some other legal business identity i.e. investing money into China.
L visas are for visitors but do not allow work.
F visas are for business people but are a maximum of six months in duration and do not allow income to be earned locally.
Z visas are for long term foreign residents here for the purposes of work and these are obtained via sponsorship of the employer. Based upon the Z visa the holder can apply for a resident permit. Both of these rely upon the sponsorship of the employer and invalid for work outside of that employer.
So in the scenario you suggest the only possibility that I can see is for the individual to be in China on an F visa collecting a wage from the company back home. But then he/she technically could not teach English here as that would constitute working locally which is illegal under the F visa.
The other alternative would be to be employed under a Z visa and then to do trading work on the side but once again that would technically be illegal.
So you can see that China does not encourage foreign self employed peoples.
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Thanks for the explanation, and to a degree that's what I guessed. For some reason I have found a similar situation in a few other countries.
Though it doesn't make sense to me. As a self-employes person I avoid taking a job away from somebody who can't or doesn't dare working alone, with the added benefit that I might create employment one day.
Sadly, from what I've seen so far (in those other countries) I got the impression that this kind of politics is based on envy. The thinking seems to be, "This foreigner wants to get rich. Send him to hell!" Though I guess I won't be able to change that...
Quoting from [germex]:The topic "jobs in China" made me think in the other option: self-employed in China.
In the past I have been a language teacher. Part of it was as an employee, while later I was working on my own. And I must say that this was much more rewarding. It's not just that you make more money; it's also because people hold you in higher esteem and you are free to use your time as you like. So maybe this person who is looking for a job should think in the option of working on his own.
Question is, would that be legally possible in China? If yes, what would he have to do? What kind of visa would he need? Or what if he wants to be a trader in China? If for example his brother (or any other family member) did the buying in his home country, he would do the selling in China. - And of course there are many more options.
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Really interresting topic!
As I'm coming back to China this winter, I wanted to know if it was possible for me to continue my small eBay business while abroad. After reading all this I'm still not sure if it is legal for me to do this. Any ideas?
If someone could help me on this that would be greatly apreciated!
Quoting from [neoblast]:Really interresting topic!
As I'm coming back to China this winter, I wanted to know if it was possible for me to continue my small eBay business while abroad. After reading all this I'm still not sure if it is legal for me to do this. Any ideas?
If someone could help me on this that would be greatly apreciated!
Are you a Chinese citizen? That seems to be the one and only major condition for self-employment. Unless there is a restriction for certain activities. Maybe those among us who are already self-employed can tell you what government office you have to ask.