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getting commission from other country exporters
Post 12 of 30
the smartest way to maintain your commission is to open a back to back lc changing documents and by this way hiding the manufacturer




07 Aug 2008 11:42
Post 13 of 30
Quoting from [GOSWAMI]:


dear sir,


we are a trading agency of minerals in INDIA. we are now dealing with iron ore fines and coal.


our question is - say for example we have signed an FPA agreement with the seller to protect our commission.


what we can do when the seller becomes direct with the buyer and makes a false understanding and both tells me that they have cancelled the order.


thereafter they without informing me start doing business in between them directly.


IN THIS CASE WE ARE UNWARE OF THE DEVLOPMENTS AND MAY LOSE OUR COMMISSION.


CAN ANYBODY ANSWEAR IT ?  
If this is the way it has to be (for trade agents) why not just require a preliminary fee (advance fee or commission) if you will -before the parties are introduced ? NOT a BOND-but an advance fee.
07 Aug 2008 14:31
Post 14 of 30
Quoting from [GOSWAMI]:



dear sir,



we are a trading agency of minerals in INDIA. we are now dealing with iron ore fines and coal.



our question is - say for example we have signed an FPA agreement with the seller to protect our commission.



what we can do when the seller becomes direct with the buyer and makes a false understanding and both tells me that they have cancelled the order.



thereafter they without informing me start doing business in between them directly.



IN THIS CASE WE ARE UNWARE OF THE DEVLOPMENTS AND MAY LOSE OUR COMMISSION.



CAN ANYBODY ANSWEAR IT ?




I CAN  HELP  YOU  TO  RECIVE  COMISION   FROM THIS  SELLER

PLS  CONTACT ME  -stefmar1@hotmail.com

08 Aug 2008 00:32
Post 15 of 30
bdrazic
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Quoting from [GOSWAMI]:


dear sir,


we are a trading agency of minerals in INDIA. we are now dealing with iron ore fines and coal.


our question is - say for example we have signed an FPA agreement with the seller to protect our commission.


what we can do when the seller becomes direct with the buyer and makes a false understanding and both tells me that they have cancelled the order.


thereafter they without informing me start doing business in between them directly.


IN THIS CASE WE ARE UNWARE OF THE DEVLOPMENTS AND MAY LOSE OUR COMMISSION.


CAN ANYBODY ANSWEAR IT ?


Only solution in that case is to sue exporter according your FPA agreement and you could win your comission for next 5 years nevertheless you are involved in the future contracts. That is only and the best solution.
08 Aug 2008 05:17
Post 16 of 30
Quoting from [GOSWAMI]:


dear sir,


we are a trading agency of minerals in INDIA. we are now dealing with iron ore fines and coal.


our question is - say for example we have signed an FPA agreement with the seller to protect our commission.


what we can do when the seller becomes direct with the buyer and makes a false understanding and both tells me that they have cancelled the order.


thereafter they without informing me start doing business in between them directly.


IN THIS CASE WE ARE UNWARE OF THE DEVLOPMENTS AND MAY LOSE OUR COMMISSION.


CAN ANYBODY ANSWEAR IT ?



Dear Sir,

you need to sign a contract and send the copy of contract to a lawyer in the buyers country. You say to the lawyer in the buyer's country to only keep this copy of contract on your behalf, he will charge you some money for keeping th copy for you. Like you will keep a document at a notary, he will charge you for keeping on your behalf the document. Then you will inform your cleint of this act, the other part, the manufacturer has to sign up with you a customer protection contract and state in the contract clearly that they have to pay punishment if contacting your client directly like exclusive agreement. You will charge the manufacturer only to pass the client/ order after they sign this contract with you protecting for you this client. A copy of this contract again send to a notary to keep it as a document in the country of the manufacturer. Then inform the supplier accordingly of this act. In both cases any transgression is illegal and serious act of illegal trading. This is not just a fun story but you must get lawyers involved keeping for you the contract, best is notary keeping it for you in their safe like when you make up an invention and let a notary keep it for you in the safe. This is cheapest and best way to go, then you have something in hand. And once they say the order has been canceled etc, you are entitled to force them to give a juridical binding statement that the order really has been canceled and no production on this in process etc.Especially the manufacturer should then know not giving you this statement is same as transgressing against the contract, evennwhen it proves that they really did not produce etc. the refuse of giving this written statement is juridically giving you the right to go against it and the manufacturer has to pay all court costs as his attitudes let you in doubty justifying sewing against them of not giving you this statement in written that no production or deal with your client is in process or that they can assure that they have no knowledge that any production is in process which is realated direct or indirectly to your customer.

So best luck!

B/RGDS.

Nordin

08 Aug 2008 05:36
Post 17 of 30
Quoting from [GOSWAMI]:


dear sir,


we are a trading agency of minerals in INDIA. we are now dealing with iron ore fines and coal.


our question is - say for example we have signed an FPA agreement with the seller to protect our commission.


what we can do when the seller becomes direct with the buyer and makes a false understanding and both tells me that they have cancelled the order.


thereafter they without informing me start doing business in between them directly.


IN THIS CASE WE ARE UNWARE OF THE DEVLOPMENTS AND MAY LOSE OUR COMMISSION.


CAN ANYBODY ANSWEAR IT ?



Hi,

So I just inform you that never ever bellewe in the business market'!

This is the nr 1 rouls and regulation!

Set up the roll how to be keep your self in the midle.

All the information keep inside from both partner.

And in the future my friend don't loose this secret otherwise day by day you will get some bad shock.

Take care

08 Aug 2008 06:05
Post 18 of 30
sulistyo_rabono
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Quoting from [GOSWAMI]:


dear sir,


we are a trading agency of minerals in INDIA. we are now dealing with iron ore fines and coal.


our question is - say for example we have signed an FPA agreement with the seller to protect our commission.


what we can do when the seller becomes direct with the buyer and makes a false understanding and both tells me that they have cancelled the order.


thereafter they without informing me start doing business in between them directly.


IN THIS CASE WE ARE UNWARE OF THE DEVLOPMENTS AND MAY LOSE OUR COMMISSION.


CAN ANYBODY ANSWEAR IT ?



halo Friend...sorry hear about it....

may ask you...are  your bussiness is legal ?i mean you have a registered company?!.

before you deal with buyer and exporter like this..you must make a legal "MOU"..

memorandum of understanding.and put in all termn of condition..for expample

if you customer and seller cancell..put it all under the agreement

and the formal sign agreement must be under law....

 

so if the exporter selling direct to user..just call the lawyer...

some company dont have good bussiness ethic and attitute..

they never think that you have spend much money for promotion..marketing cost..etc

in the furure if you do for the same thing...prepare all the agreement first..under the law.

than start your bussiness with them

 

good luck[em18]

 

08 Aug 2008 17:34
Post 19 of 30
Quoting from [GOSWAMI]:


dear sir,


we are a trading agency of minerals in INDIA. we are now dealing with iron ore fines and coal.


our question is - say for example we have signed an FPA agreement with the seller to protect our commission.


what we can do when the seller becomes direct with the buyer and makes a false understanding and both tells me that they have cancelled the order.


thereafter they without informing me start doing business in between them directly.


IN THIS CASE WE ARE UNWARE OF THE DEVLOPMENTS AND MAY LOSE OUR COMMISSION.


CAN ANYBODY ANSWEAR IT ?



I am 100% agree with RANGER from US....Back to Back LC is better solution...

Good Luck

09 Aug 2008 05:55
Post 20 of 30
Quoting from [GOSWAMI]:


dear sir,


we are a trading agency of minerals in INDIA. we are now dealing with iron ore fines and coal.


our question is - say for example we have signed an FPA agreement with the seller to protect our commission.


what we can do when the seller becomes direct with the buyer and makes a false understanding and both tells me that they have cancelled the order.


thereafter they without informing me start doing business in between them directly.


IN THIS CASE WE ARE UNWARE OF THE DEVLOPMENTS AND MAY LOSE OUR COMMISSION.


CAN ANYBODY ANSWEAR IT ?


request payment upfront from the buyer, if order is cancelled refund payment less expenses/commisions
09 Aug 2008 18:13
Post 21 of 30
Quoting from [GOSWAMI]:


dear sir,


we are a trading agency of minerals in INDIA. we are now dealing with iron ore fines and coal.


our question is - say for example we have signed an FPA agreement with the seller to protect our commission.


what we can do when the seller becomes direct with the buyer and makes a false understanding and both tells me that they have cancelled the order.


thereafter they without informing me start doing business in between them directly.


IN THIS CASE WE ARE UNWARE OF THE DEVLOPMENTS AND MAY LOSE OUR COMMISSION.


CAN ANYBODY ANSWEAR IT ?


if you get ripped off in Indonesia, cheated, or get bypassed with, do give us a call, with our own public police, we'll collect your money with a simple fee. We'll just tie that guy to the railway track until he peed in his pants and he will pay.
10 Aug 2008 10:42
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