They are suspicious, they told me that they are trust pass member here on Alibaba, but I can't find them. They have a VAT number and I checked it- it's OK.
Finaly I make a deposit on Western Union and then happened this, they make no contact to me for 2 days, so I picked up the money (-20¬ fees).
![[em8]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_cry.gif){kind=icon}
I'm posting all our conversation, please look and make an opinion, you must read from down to up:
___________________________________________________________________ _
Hello again,
For the first, we have not a free domain to our webpage. We pay $ 189 for this webpage with domain each month. For the second we don't have any customer service within phone. Just e-mail. You have got information about this before.
If you wan't to but this 5 units, please transfer the money back to us and give us a copy for the receipt and we will ship your goods within 24 h after receiveing payment. Delivery after 3-5 days by EMS or UPS.
We can pay half the fee for Western Union this time. Just deduct the price for the phones.
__________________________________________________
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:38:35 +0200
> From: jovanek@volja.net
> To: eurosell@live.se
> Subject: Re: about ordering
>
> Hi.
>
> I don't know what to say.
>
> Why didn't you notify me before you gone?
>
> The money was for 2 days on the Western Union account, I told you that I
> put it on and you made no contact with me, so I become worried.
> Yesterday I gone to bank and withdraw all the money except fees (20 ¬),
> I think if you are a serious company you'll notified me about education
> or maybe you'll told about this to your collaborator or boss (isn't
> write somewhere that your company have 10 -15 employees).
> Now I become more skeptical, is this company real or another scam? Now I
> know for sure, because you didn't gave me a phone number, on other
> 2 phone numbers which I was found on some net pages and nobody answered
> when I called them, your web page is from some free domain.
>
> And even if I'm wrong, how can now I trust you? Who can return back my
> fees, if I deposit again then I lost 40¬ total for fees?? :-(
>
> BR, Jani.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Eurosell Nordic AB wrote:
> > Dear Jani
> >
> > Western union in sweden just e-mailed us and told us that you have
> > take back the money??
> >
> > You don't want to continnue with your order.
> >
> > *Med vänliga hälsningar / With Best Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen*
> >
> > Mr. Andreas Nilsson
> > *Sales assistant*
> >
> > Eurosell Nordic AB
> > - a Swedish registred limited company.
> >
> > Our VAT-NO: SE556347-909501
> >
> > _Visit us on the web: __www.eurosell.dinstudio.se_
> > _ _
> >_____________________________________________
> > Sorry that we have not answer your e-mail.
We have been on education yesterday and today. Just returning from Danmark, I will spoke to our financial department and se if they can pick out the money and after that we will ship the goods. Hopefully tomorrow...
Regards,
> >
> >____________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:02:59 +0200
> > > From: jovanek@volja.net
> > > To: eurosell@live.se
> > > Subject: Re: about ordering
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Why don't you contact me?
> > > Don't tell me you are a scammer?
> > > Please contact me in 24 hours.
> > >
> > > BR, Jani.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday afternoon I sent you a mail, did you got it?
> > > > It was in all about payment.
> > > > Please contact me asap,
> > > > thank you, Jani.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >___________________________________________
Dear,
I will send the invoice to you later on today, at the moment I'm out of office.
When can you transfer the money?
Med vänliga hälsningar / With Best Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Mr. Andreas Nilsson
Sales assistant
Eurosell Nordic AB
- a Swedish registred limited company.
Our VAT-NO: SE556347-909501
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Eurosell Nordic AB wrote:
> > Yes we can let you mix the orders but not for just this 2 products.
> > MOQ is 5 units of each because this is NOT a standrard product and we
> > can't open the boxes. You can order 5 PSP or 5 Nintendo If you wan't.
> >
> > Mr. Mathias Martinsson is one of our financial assistants, I'm only
> > working with selling/customer service.
> >
> > *Med vänliga hälsningar / With Best Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen*
> >
> > Mr. Andreas Nilsson
> > *Sales assistant*
> >
_______________________________________________
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:32:46 +0200
> > > From: jovanek@volja.net
> > > To: eurosell@live.se
> > > Subject: Re: ordering
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > In the middle of this mail you wrote that I can make a mixed order (I
> > > marked it red & bold, look somewhere in the middle) and now you say
> > that
> > > I can't, why?
> > > I has also one question about Western Union recipient; who is Mathias
> > > Martinsson? Can I get your firm phone to make a contact?
> > >
> > > Thank you, Jani.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Eurosell Nordic AB wrote:
> > > > Dear Jani,
> > > >
> > > > You cant order 2 and 3 of this products. You have to order 5 units of
> > > > each product?
> > > >
> > > > Do you want us to send 5 PSP Black and 5 NINTENDO Red to you?
> > > >
> > > > Total cost will be 950 USD or 5700 SEK (Swedish Krona)?
> > > >
> > > > Please return with your full name and address where to send the
> > > > phones. The manual language and menu language will be English.
> > > >
> > > > Europa charger included.
> > > >
> > > > Go to Western Union and tell them that you want to send 5700 in
> > > > Swedish Krona to following person.
> > > >
> > > > Name: Mathias Martinsson
> > > > Address: Kungsgatan 8
> > > > Postalcode: 25221
> > > > City: Helsingborg
> > > >
> > > > Return to me with MTCN-no and total amount in SEK and EUR/USD and the
> > > > name and address of the sender if it's not you how transfer the money.
> > > >
> > > > *Med vänliga hälsningar / With Best Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen*
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Andreas Nilsson
> > > > *Sales assistant*
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I never heard from the guy who earlier on wanted to contact me.
In light of the discussion so far perhaps I was right in my earlier post afterall.
you must have solved the problem.If you have friends there ,he can check the company for you.Or it's important big deal to you,send someone to check it.Just my idea,![[em3]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_grin.gif){kind=icon}
this is the company phon nember in swedden
004642151005
Quoting from [kungartur]:Quoting from [MbM]:Have any of you even had a look at there website before you made any statement????
Nokia N96 @ 220 USD,
Nokia N95 @ 200 USD,
ETCSPECIAL OFFER
10 X Iphone 16 GB @ 1500 USD
10 X Nokia N96 @ 1800 USD
10 X Nokia N95 @ 1500 USD
10 X Sony PS3 @ 2000 USD
ETCWho ever believe that they can buy original brand name electronics to these prizes seriously need to find a another living
there is also a 30% discount if buying more than 25 phones ;-)
if you want to naw about all the company in euroup you must to used this hompage
www.europages.com or yo can find in google
Quoting from [sspillekiosk]:http://www.121.nu/onetoone/foretag/eurosell-nordic-aktiebolagQuoting from [kungartur]:Quoting from [MbM]:Have any of you even had a look at there website before you made any statement????
Nokia N96 @ 220 USD,
Nokia N95 @ 200 USD,
ETCSPECIAL OFFER
10 X Iphone 16 GB @ 1500 USD
10 X Nokia N96 @ 1800 USD
10 X Nokia N95 @ 1500 USD
10 X Sony PS3 @ 2000 USD
ETCWho ever believe that they can buy original brand name electronics to these prizes seriously need to find a another living
there is also a 30% discount if buying more than 25 phones ;-)
if you want to naw about all the company in euroup you must to used this hompagewww.europages.com or yo can find in google
Quoting from [Egernia]:I never heard from the guy who earlier on wanted to contact me.
In light of the discussion so far perhaps I was right in my earlier post afterall.
http://www.balticnordic.com/en/company-information/ATQMLR/Eurosell-Nordic-AB.html
Quoting from [sspillekiosk]:Quoting from [sspillekiosk]:http://www.121.nu/onetoone/foretag/eurosell-nordic-aktiebolagQuoting from [kungartur]:Quoting from [MbM]:Have any of you even had a look at there website before you made any statement????
Nokia N96 @ 220 USD,
Nokia N95 @ 200 USD,
ETCSPECIAL OFFER
10 X Iphone 16 GB @ 1500 USD
10 X Nokia N96 @ 1800 USD
10 X Nokia N95 @ 1500 USD
10 X Sony PS3 @ 2000 USD
ETCWho ever believe that they can buy original brand name electronics to these prizes seriously need to find a another living
there is also a 30% discount if buying more than 25 phones ;-)
if you want to naw about all the company in euroup you must to used this hompagewww.europages.com or yo can find in google
http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17774
HI
Eurosell Nordic AB SCAMER I HAVE LOST $9000
I HAVE ORDER PHONES OF THEM AND I NEVER SEEN THEM
DON'T BY ANYTHINK FROM THIS COMPANY
Hello all Alibaba-users.
I just want to leave a comment to all this written about us!
We had one guy working for us before and he scammed customers in our name.
We are a real company and we don't scam people.
Please contact Ms. Ellie Deng here at Alibaba Customer Service, She can guarantee this because she had been in Contact with the Swedish Police!
Regards,
Roger Svensson
sales manager
Quoting from [Eurosell Nordic AB]:Hello all Alibaba-users.
I just want to leave a comment to all this written about us!
We had one guy working for us before and he scammed customers in our name.
We are a real company and we don't scam people.
Please contact Ms. Ellie Deng here at Alibaba Customer Service, She can guarantee this because she had been in Contact with the Swedish Police!
Regards,
Roger Svensson
sales manager
You know you can leave any junk here you like. But I know that the person here that says Eurosell Nordic AB sells cell phones is not a representative of the real company. Just like the recent pull down of their store front on the web hosting service of www.dinstudio.se Any time you you see a business listed as www.(store name).(domain name).se your looking at a cheap store front.
This person has posted more sale leads in so many places they forgot where they all were. Because on this page http://www.gulex.se/firmainfo/eurosell_nordic_ab/931126958190.htm
They think they are fooling people by linking to a parked domain name they don't even own.
They must really think that no one outside of Sweden can read Credit reports or find them on companies there. This is what the real company does:
The company within and outside sweden conduct activities, import and export, purchase and sale of toy items, household articles, hair care items, and hygiene products. This information has been confirmed by calling the real company by one former and one present moderator. They don't sell mobile phones. There in Sweden just like almost every other devloped nation there is a department whereby you can freely get information on taxes filed by a corporation. The claims on Alibaba are not supported by credit reporting and govermental agencies in Sweden.
Total sales for last year 118,000 SEK (2007) 520,000 SEK (2006)
Thats $15,226.99 USD (2007) & $67,101.969 USD (2006) (but he states on Alibaba sales of 1 - 2.5 Million USD)
Oh and by the way total employees of the business = 1
Truth of the matter that if any business is legally registered you can find out as much information as you need you just need to know where and how to get it.
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