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Reunion of North and South Korea - Jim Rogers on U-tube
Post 12 of 42
Quoting from [Street Smart]:

 



>Let me guess your age to be at 50 plus< am I correct?

Maybe you are right... if you mentioned my mental age ;)




> Korean history has about 1 generation of Japanese colonisation, for more than 30 years. There are a tribe of people born during this period, and many have Japanese parents, put aside the spies and the Secret Service people. These people do not simply disappear out of the social fabric, they grow along with the rest of the people in the whole nation. They are the ones who will faction the nation in whatever decision, policy or direction the leaders take. Sometimes they form the majority in the Senate and the Government.

 

I don' t agree with you on the point that there is such a trabe in Korea ... actually it sounds even funny to me. Through the past 38 years (yes, I'm 38), I've never heard about that and I think, even though there must have been not a little of that race before the independance, it is unlikely that they had been brought up to be leaders even after the independance. As I mentioned previously, those are mostly the decendants of betrayors of the colonial era or those who gave in the power of betrayors.





> ....subjection. I have observed my Korean colleagues and the Japanese when they meet and talk in conversations and their body language. Japanese still holds low esteem of the Koreans in everything, they consider the language as inferior and attempted to destroy the Korean tongue to replace with the Katakana , the Hiragana and the Kanji during the thirty over years when they were the colonial masters. Even the Japanese Yen is 10 times stronger than the Korean Won. They consider the Korean technology inferior, the people poor.

 

Every race has that racism and we also look down on the Japanese adn their culture something, though we respect their idustrial superiority... and above all I can hardly acknowledge that their language is superior to ours. They can't even pronounce those words with the 'finals'.

 

HC





01 Sep 2008 01:25
Post 13 of 42
Choy,


During the Korean war, there were ups and downs of the United Nation's forces and the North Korean forces with the aid of the Russian. There were two events when Seoul was the North over ran Seoul, then the US forces had enough forces to attack from Incheon and drove the Northerners back. However MacArthur did not stopped after the Han River, and Pyongyang, he went further up to the Chinese borders and aroused the Chinese to give them back with their rockets and howitzers.


Then the people fled back towards South, across the Han River, and Seoul was captured for the second time. But during these times, hundreds and thousands of North Koreans were amongst the refugees, some of them were spies without their military uniforms, and many of them were the ordinary people least suspected of being spies for the North. They mingled among the local people, speak the same language and look the same. These are the radical groups.


Wikipedia on Japanese colonialism of Korea:


In this period, the Imperial Japanese Army discriminated against, tortured, plundered, raped, summary executed and mass murdered innocent Koreans.[1] Major cultural genocides and war crimes committed by the Japanese include forced sex slavery and kidnapping of Korean females for the Japanese army,[2]human experiments on live Koreans,[3] burning down of Korean villages,[4] banning of the Korean language and religions,[5] complete censorship of media, unfair confiscation of land, food and cultural assets, forced name changes and Imperial education, which led to a strong rise in anti-Japanese sentiment and Korean nationalism, still persistent to this date in both South Korea and North Korea.[6]
Joyce

01 Sep 2008 04:10
Post 14 of 42
Quoting from [James 007]:

Choy,



During the Korean war, there were ups and downs of the United Nation's forces and the North Korean forces with the aid of the Russian...
Hi Joyce, are you still trying to rip open wounds that want to heal? You aren't doing anybody a favor, as remembering sad things doesn't make them go away or correct the past, while forgetting about them and going on with life provides hope. And that's what our Christian faith is all about, isn't it?
01 Sep 2008 09:40
Post 15 of 42
Quoting from[James 007]:

Choy,



During the Korean war, there were ups and downs of the United Nation's forces and the North Korean forces with the aid of the Russian. There were two events when Seoul was the North over ran Seoul, then the US forces had enough forces to attack from Incheon and drove the Northerners back. However MacArthur did not stopped after the Han River, and Pyongyang, he went further up to the Chinese borders and aroused the Chinese to give them back with their rockets and howitzers.



Then the people fled back towards South, across the Han River, and Seoul was captured for the second time. But during these times, hundreds and thousands of North Koreans were amongst the refugees, some of them were spies without their military uniforms, and many of them were the ordinary people least suspected of being spies for the North. They mingled among the local people, speak the same language and look the same. These are the radical groups.



Wikipedia on Japanese colonialism of Korea:



In this period, the Imperial Japanese Army discriminated against, tortured, plundered, raped, summary executed and mass murdered innocent Koreans.[1] Major cultural genocides and war crimes committed by the Japanese include forced sex slavery and kidnapping of Korean females for the Japanese army,[2]human experiments on live Koreans,[3] burning down of Korean villages,[4] banning of the Korean language and religions,[5] complete censorship of media, unfair confiscation of land, food and cultural assets, forced name changes and Imperial education, which led to a strong rise in anti-Japanese sentiment and Korean nationalism, still persistent to this date in both South Korea and North Korea.[6]
Joyce

............Major cultural genocides and war crimes committed by the Japanese include forced sex slavery and kidnapping of Korean females for the Japanese army,[2]human experiments on live Koreans,[3] burning down of Korean villages,[4] banning of the Korean language and religions,[5] complete censorship of media, unfair confiscation of land, food and cultural assets, forced name changes and Imperial educat.................

Hello Joyce,

Is that article from Wikipedia a foundation of your idea that there must have been lots of babies by ****? You may guess so but as for me I don't as I'm not so merciful as to raise up a baby that is a product of a * and that done by the beast who genocides my family and people. I can easily imagin there were much more abortion or suicide than living in disgrace....besides,in thathellishsituation, the * must have been followed by a slaughter.

Do you still guess there must have been that many babies enough to later build up a faction?

I agree partially with you on the spy issue but can't agree that they are the main body of the radical or progressive groups... I really wonder how you came to have that idiological idea that is likely in the cold-war era.

HC



04 Sep 2008 22:09
Post 16 of 42
Quoting from [germex]:

Hi Joyce, are you still trying to rip open wounds that want to heal? You aren't doing anybody a favor, as remembering sad things doesn't make them go away or correct the past, while forgetting about them and going on with life provides hope. And that's what our Christian faith is all about, isn't it?


Hello germex,

Not attaching to the past is a way to hope? Then you will never know your present faults came from your past. Remember the saying that the forgotten history repeats itself!

 

HC

04 Sep 2008 22:26
Post 17 of 42
Quoting from [hcchoi]:

Remember the saying that the forgotten history repeats itself!

That is a cute and catchy phrase, but experience shows that nothing surp the virtues of forgetting, forgiving and a fresh start. It's hard to do, but then again, everything of high value is hard to do!

I'm speaking from my own experience!

05 Sep 2008 09:27
Post 18 of 42
Quoting from [germex]:

Quoting from [hcchoi]:

Remember the saying that the forgotten history repeats itself!

That is a cute and catchy phrase, but experience shows that nothing surp the virtues of forgetting, forgiving and a fresh start. It's hard to do, but then again, everything of high value is hard to do!

I'm speaking from my own experience!



Hello Germex,

 

Long time!

 

We used to say when something is going wrong, "Buttons are up out of order" Usually this occasion begins with the very first button and there's no other way but to go back to the first button. With a viewpoint of christianity, you never get reborn without repenting for the evil acts in the past.

 

I think it's much more righteous to advise those repentless neighbors to repent than to advise those victims, "Just forget about it!".

 

HC

24 Sep 2008 21:25
Post 19 of 42
Quoting from [hcchoi]:I think it's much more righteous to advise those repentless neighbors to repent than to advise those victims, "Just forget about it!".

I don't think making a choice here is the right thing to do. I would advise both; one side to do one thing, and the other side to do the other thing. And I would never combine these two things or make one advice depend on the other. Two different subjects! They always have to remain unrelated.

Besides, everybody in this world is only responsible for himself and has no right to blame others for what he is doing or not doing. There is only one person in this whole world over who you have total control, and that's you (yourself). So control your thoughts, words and acts, and don't try doing that with other people instead. That's their job, and God - not you - will decide if they did that right or wrong.

25 Sep 2008 10:06
Post 20 of 42
Quoting from [germex]:

Besides, everybody in this world is only responsible for himself and has no right to blame others for what he is doing or not doing. There is only one person in this whole world over who you have total control, and that's you (yourself). So control your thoughts, words and acts, and don't try doing that with other people instead. That's their job, and God - not you - will decide if they did that right or wrong.

 

What a beautiful world with no fight, no war, no hatred if we can live together with poeple only gentle, conscientious, reasonable, humble, generous and so on... but this world is full of evil spirits and though there's no righteous soul before God if the more righteous are indifferent to the unjustness of the less righteous finally the world will fall to the hands of the evil.. though that's the way this world is supposed to be according to God's prophcy.

Being good alone, indifferent to the prevailing evil acts... is it enough to ask God's salvation? I don't believe in the virtue of forgetfulness though I believe in the virtue of forgiveness that goes with repentance.

 

HC

26 Sep 2008 01:09
Post 21 of 42
That beautiful world you are describing is something I also long for. Only that I came to realize that to achieve it you have to forgive. And in the moment you really forgive you also forget - whatever separated you from your next has become irrelevant and therefore something your brain won't accept to remember.
26 Sep 2008 15:09
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