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Reunion of North and South Korea - Jim Rogers on U-tube
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The man who has traveelled over 116 countries across the world on bike, wrote 5 books, and is a Commodity expert, who has a Commodity Index called the Jim Rogers Index, made a prediction about the reuniion of the two Koreas.

According to Jim, this reunification will have tremendous impact on the world, as Korea has population of 70 million from the North with large supply of cheap labor, and the South with economic success management and business capability, this union will be a win-win affair.

Watch it in a candid home made video posted on U-Tube in a lecture by Jim Rogers in Seoul, Korea, recently.



Sorry about the quality of the video, but it is really a candid shot, thanks to the contributor.

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22 Jul 2008 02:04
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The video is really hard to watch and listen to, but I agree with the reasoning. It's like the north and south pole of two magnets coming together. Alone they don't do very much, but put together the right way they become like one - a strong bonding!

Do you think this will happen anytime soon? As a former German (a nation that was divided, too) I would love to see them reuniting. It would be a tough subject to deal with, but also a very satisfying one.

22 Jul 2008 09:54
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Quoting from [germex]:

The video is really hard to watch and listen to, but I agree with the reasoning. It's like the north and south pole of two magnets coming together. Alone they don't do very much, but put together the right way they become like one - a strong bonding!

Do you think this will happen anytime soon? As a former German (a nation that was divided, too) I would love to see them reuniting. It would be a tough subject to deal with, but also a very satisfying one.

Grandpa,


Yes, before the reunification of Germany, I was there in Munich, and Frankfurt. After the breaking down of the Berlin wall, I was there over in the West, and to the East of Germany, in a town where the German Poet, Gotthe was born, Weimer.


There was sharp contrasts between two part of the same country, which was divided over political boundaries. The Eastern homes were run down, and some broken roofs, but the West was so much developed.


One German said it would take 50 years for East Germany to catch up, the infrastructure, the mindset and educational system and the German Marks were different. After the union, lots of Easterners migrate to the West to look for jobs. By now, they must have adjusted to the difference.


However, North Korea has severe winter, near the Chinese border, Chosun. During winter, temperature fell to as low as -40 C / F. and almost 6 months without warmth, and the other six months with warmth during the summer.


Both have same language, but South has Corish, a mixture of Korean and English (American), while the North has some Russian words in their language. But they understand each other well. Imagine what great benefits the union will bring, families re-united after 55 years, and they are going to have a stronger nation than before.


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22 Jul 2008 10:58
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I was born toward the end of the war in what later became known as East Germany - in fact pretty close to Weimar. But as my mom was from a city near the Dutch border, we moved there, and that's where I grew up. So I'm a West German.

Not so long after the reunifiation of Germany, a French TV station sent a team there, and they said that Germany was experiencing "a second economical miracle", because they united and adapted to fast. Let's hope that Korea will experience the same.

The different development of the language doesn't surrpise me (I saw the same in Germany), but the low winter temperatures in North Korea do. Hopefully they adapted to that with the right construction system, clothing, etc. Let's hope and wish the best for this country that after all still is one.

22 Jul 2008 16:29
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Quoting from [germex]:

I was born toward the end of the war in what later became known as East Germany - in fact pretty close to Weimar. But as my mom was from a city near the Dutch border, we moved there, and that's where I grew up. So I'm a West German.

Not so long after the reunifiation of Germany, a French TV station sent a team there, and they said that Germany was experiencing "a second economical miracle", because they united and adapted to fast. Let's hope that Korea will experience the same.

The different development of the language doesn't surrpise me (I saw the same in Germany), but the low winter temperatures in North Korea do. Hopefully they adapted to that with the right construction system, clothing, etc. Let's hope and wish the best for this country that after all still is one.


Near the Dutch border, Kaarst? I have been there on business trip. Took a train from Frankfurt, went through several cities, one that sounds like the cologne after-shave lotion, and alight at town next to Kaarst and took a taxi which costed me DM50.00 over a distance of 2 km. Then it was West Germany, and the town was infested with the "tennis" sports.


The split between the two German state has different history and endings as the Korean. Although both speak the same language, some were in the same family, during the Korean war, brothers were fighting each other, because of political ideology. So, their differences are deep rooted with great emotions and pre-conceived and past hurts which may heal over time, and remain as scars. It will take greater reconciliatory measure, such as the passing of the generation. However, the Koreans have this desire to be merged together again and to be a great nation.


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02 Aug 2008 19:31
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Hello,

The language and the weather, they don't matter at all. Actually the language difference is no more than the difference between dialects; of course, a little more efforts shall be needed for the both parties; as for the north, they will have to take hard time to get accustomed to bunch of recklessly prevailing Konglish words, while the south need to learn the rhetoric by pure Korean language.

 

 

Back to the topic, it's tragic that more than thirty percentage of south Koreans are negative to the reunification, which is necessarily a peaceful one as those are favorable to the unification by force, and the negative party including those who are anxious about the unification will much more than that. Those short-term sighted people just don't want to pay for the reunification costs so they just yell, "I like the way it is!" However, what is even more tragic, politically and ideologically, they can never be mixed with each other. On the south side, there's a political and social problem as serious as the one in north side that they had been under the dictatorship for more than 50 years. In the south, there are two main thoughts in large that have been split for the same years; one is favorable to the north and the other not. The latter is self-styled conservative party, while the former progressive party, and the conservative party had seized the power throughout the era of cold war and for that long time on the throne they constituted the main stream of the south Korean society and that by the help of dictatorship, which was such a concrete and sound fraction so that even today it’s never broken even after the ten years’ progressive party’s control ( you know, the conservative party took back the power last year in ten years).

 to be contined...

 

21 Aug 2008 01:36
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We need to find the cause of the Korean history of disunion from the traitorous conservative party that betrayed their mother country, Korea, through the Japanese colonial era and those Japanese doggies had taken advantage of the situational opportunity under the US military government right after the emancipation from the colony. No sooner had Japan perished from the two bombs they converted to liberal side and under the protection of the US military they free rode on the major political powers to establish the independent government in the south… and with no time for the patriotic politicians and people to find right time for sorting out those betrayers in the society they carried out a coup with then army colonel Mr. Park, who had been such a patriotic doggy of Japan during the colonial age, and seized the political power then after. Since then for that long time, maybe more than 40 years and now they’ve taken back the lost power in ten years, they perfectly took the power and capital, which is so concrete and sound and thanks to their collective selfishness that their obtained right had not been hurt so much during the last ten years while progressive party had the control. You know during the last ten years there have been lots of progress in the south-north relationship, which showed possibility enough that the two Korea could be reunited if without the foreign powers around that have interests in this Korean peninsular, I won’t say US and Japan are the major two, and also without the self-styled conservative party that continually interrupted every policy to improve the south-north relationship.

 

In this viewpoint, the main cause of the split and not being able to be reunified lies more in the south party for their disunion between the self-styled conservative and the progressive or liberal party, than anything else. To be reunified, how to unite the split south is the first to solve; however, can the south people be mixed into the descendants or followers of the betrayers in the colonial era so that the south could possibly accomplish reunification by force? Or, though it might be too late and there’s no practical way seemingly, should we wait till we can destroy the betrayers and the followers? How can we correct this wrong history?

HC

 

 

21 Aug 2008 01:38
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Quoting from [hcchoi]: How can we correct this wrong history?

Trying to correct history is as impossible as trying to put back into your mouth words you have already said.

And if you want to change things for the better, you have to show maturity by accepting facts as they are, and take it from there. - No need to like the facts; just accept them and live in peace with them.

21 Aug 2008 20:42
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Quoting from[germex]:

Quoting from[hcchoi]: How can we correct this wrong history?

Trying to correct history is as impossible as trying to put back into your mouth words you have already said.

And if you want to change things for the better, you have toshow maturity by accepting facts as they are, and take it from there. - No need to like the facts; just accept them and live in peace with them.


I just wish to have my country led by much more moral and capable leaders that have correct historical understanding. I know I can't go back to the past to change the world... what is needed to change the history is not a timemachine but a correct understanding of the true state of things.

Ignornace breeds not only happiness but also a Bush or a ****.

HC

22 Aug 2008 20:45
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Quoting from[hcchoi]:

Trying to correct history is as impossible as trying to put back into your mouth words you have already said.

And if you want to change things for the better, you have toshow maturity by accepting facts as they are, and take it from there. - No need to like the facts; just accept them and live in peace with them.

I just wish to have my country led by much more moral and capable leaders that have correct historical understanding. I know I can't go back to the past to change the world... what is needed to change the history is not a timemachine but a correct understanding of the true state of things.

Ignornace breeds not only happiness but also a Bush or a ****.

HC

I understand very well what you mean, because at this time there probably is not one single honest leader in the world. But remember, "he who persist prevails..."
23 Aug 2008 10:48
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Quoting from [hcchoi]:

I just wish to have my country led by much more moral and capable leaders that have correct historical understanding. I know I can't go back to the past to change the world... what is needed to change the history is not a timemachine but a correct understanding of the true state of things.

Ignornace breeds not only happiness but also a Bush or a ****.

HC


Choi,


Let me guess your age to be at 50 plus< am I correct?


Korean history has about 1 generation of Japanese colonisation, for more than 30 years. There are a tribe of people born during this period, and many have Japanese parents, put aside the spies and the Secret Service people. These people do not simply disappear out of the social fabric, they grow along with the rest of the people in the whole nation. They are the ones who will faction the nation in whatever decision, policy or direction the leaders take. Sometimes they form the majority in the Senate and the Government.


Even in Singapore, where we had a Japanese occupation by force for 3 years, many people died in the hands of the ruthless invader. Some of them still survive after the war, and they came out of the woodwork much later, when things began to settle down, and the previous "enemy" is more acceptable to the nation, and there are new breed of the business foreigner coming to seek their fortunes. However their attitude and behaviour is different from that of the East Asian Peninsula, these people has been humbled by the American, which translates to their language as being considered "superior" due to the subjection. I have observed my Korean colleagues and the Japanese when they meet and talk in conversations and their body language. Japanese still holds low esteem of the Koreans in everything, they consider the language as inferior and attempted to destroy the Korean tongue to replace with the Katakana , the Hiragana and the Kanji during the thirty over years when they were the colonial masters. Even the Japanese Yen is 10 times stronger than the Korean Won. They consider the Korean technology inferior, the people poor.


But the new generation of the baby-boomers has forgotten the past, still lingers with the elderly in their 60s and above, and some pass it down to their children.

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