Why would a Trustpass and/or Gold member offer dropshipping, air delivery, and/or 3 or 4 piece orders?
Post 1 of 8
I was just reading a post in the fraud forum and this question popped in my head. I'm in the Intl Trade Business as both a manufacturer and an import/exporter. Other than a sample, I've never asked to buy 2 or 3 of something. Never asked to buy by the case, and certainly never asked a factory or trading company if they provide 'dropshipping.'
Truth be told, if anyone were to solicit me and ask any of those questions I wouldn't even waste my time to reply.
I've always been under the assumption that Alibaba was a Intl Trading Portal. True Intl Trade deals in container loads and volume quantities. If this is true, why then are there Trustpass and Gold members offering these services in Alibaba?
Somebody please enlighten me! Especially if you're a Trustpass and/or Gold member to whom this is directed.
regards,
James
WDC Intl Inc
Truth be told, if anyone were to solicit me and ask any of those questions I wouldn't even waste my time to reply.
I've always been under the assumption that Alibaba was a Intl Trading Portal. True Intl Trade deals in container loads and volume quantities. If this is true, why then are there Trustpass and Gold members offering these services in Alibaba?
Somebody please enlighten me! Especially if you're a Trustpass and/or Gold member to whom this is directed.
regards,
James
WDC Intl Inc
30 Jan 2007 17:45
Post 2 of 8
A lot of eBay traders come here to find suppliers. I would expect that's the reason.
31 Jan 2007 00:37
Post 3 of 8
Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:
I have sold for many years on eBay but now look to increase my offerings. I also wish to increase my turnover and can only do this by offering high demand products to my customers.
MP3/MP4 Players are high demand products but as I live in the UK, the supplier market does not exist.
Alibaba allows me to initially create a relationship with a supplier in China for example.
The supplier may offer dropshipping.
Once my business grows, I will then look to change my business model to also buy in Wholesale quantities.
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I can also understand if a supplier would not want to offer dropshipping as the cost in manual labour to just simply package 1 unit, address it and then send it could be the same for that for a carton on 500 pieces.
One way for all to gain from this type of business is to set up "Buyers Co-operatives".
If suppliers offer 500 pieces for purchase at $x.xx.
Small buyers who would like to buy that product could register and pay upfront for 5, 10, 20, products etc.
When all the 500 pieces are then sold, the items could be drawn on by the buyers.
This does not overcome the cost of the manual labour but does allow suppliers to sell to small sized buyers.
I'm not in the supplier maketplace but as a buyer, I would be very interestd to deal with any supplier who could offer this "Co-Op" service.
I have sold for many years on eBay but now look to increase my offerings. I also wish to increase my turnover and can only do this by offering high demand products to my customers.
MP3/MP4 Players are high demand products but as I live in the UK, the supplier market does not exist.
Alibaba allows me to initially create a relationship with a supplier in China for example.
The supplier may offer dropshipping.
Once my business grows, I will then look to change my business model to also buy in Wholesale quantities.
,
I can also understand if a supplier would not want to offer dropshipping as the cost in manual labour to just simply package 1 unit, address it and then send it could be the same for that for a carton on 500 pieces.
One way for all to gain from this type of business is to set up "Buyers Co-operatives".
If suppliers offer 500 pieces for purchase at $x.xx.
Small buyers who would like to buy that product could register and pay upfront for 5, 10, 20, products etc.
When all the 500 pieces are then sold, the items could be drawn on by the buyers.
This does not overcome the cost of the manual labour but does allow suppliers to sell to small sized buyers.
I'm not in the supplier maketplace but as a buyer, I would be very interestd to deal with any supplier who could offer this "Co-Op" service.
02 Feb 2007 19:08
Post 4 of 8
Replying to [RobG]:
I understand your point...but I don't think you understood mine. Alibaba is a B2B trading portal for those engaged in Intl Trade. Intl Trade is not about wholesaling or dropshipping, it's about container and volume shipping. So why would a facory dropship?
regards,
James
WDC Intl Inc
I understand your point...but I don't think you understood mine. Alibaba is a B2B trading portal for those engaged in Intl Trade. Intl Trade is not about wholesaling or dropshipping, it's about container and volume shipping. So why would a facory dropship?
regards,
James
WDC Intl Inc
03 Feb 2007 07:10
Post 5 of 8
Replying to [Obiwill]:
I think the question you should ask first is: What is Alibaba's purpose with the site, and how do they define international trade?
I think the question you should ask first is: What is Alibaba's purpose with the site, and how do they define international trade?
03 Feb 2007 07:41
Post 6 of 8
Replying to [FraudWatchersDotOrg]:
Hey Fraudy,
I would ask that question, but I already know the answer after reading their mission statement. They want to be a B2B Intl Trade e-commerce portal. Unless someone changed the term of Intl Trade, or Alibaba traded their mission statement, I don't see how or why any factory can do dropshipping. Have you heard of, or know any factories that do dropshipping?
regards,
James
WDC Intl Inc
Hey Fraudy,
I would ask that question, but I already know the answer after reading their mission statement. They want to be a B2B Intl Trade e-commerce portal. Unless someone changed the term of Intl Trade, or Alibaba traded their mission statement, I don't see how or why any factory can do dropshipping. Have you heard of, or know any factories that do dropshipping?
regards,
James
WDC Intl Inc
03 Feb 2007 07:48
Post 7 of 8
Replying to [Obiwill]:Now we are getting to the crux of the matter. 95% of all manufacturer's will never sell to a retailer. The reason, they are busy manufacturing and sell their products to regional distributors or world wide distributors who have the resources for that sole purpose. Companies claiming to be manufacturers may well be but unless they have brand names they are merely the manufacturer for outsourced brand names.
James, I do know of one manufacturer that is a drop shipper that is based in Thailand. But to clarify this they will not drop ship single items on behalf or a retailer. They deal in very large quanities. 5k pcs up for wholesalers as they have many brokers around the world working on their behalf doing break shipments to countries. I would suggest that anyone truely wants to know what drop shipping is follow this link. Then you will know why manufacturers do not drop ship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_shipping
Best regards,
Ranger
James, I do know of one manufacturer that is a drop shipper that is based in Thailand. But to clarify this they will not drop ship single items on behalf or a retailer. They deal in very large quanities. 5k pcs up for wholesalers as they have many brokers around the world working on their behalf doing break shipments to countries. I would suggest that anyone truely wants to know what drop shipping is follow this link. Then you will know why manufacturers do not drop ship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_shipping
Best regards,
Ranger
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03 Feb 2007 11:26
Post 8 of 8
Replying to [Ranger]:
Hahahaha! Finally! Now we Are getting to the crux of the matter. If you are truly doing business in Intl Trade you should understand all the terms. Manufacturers don't sell products, no more than Buyers make them. Just because someone says they're the factory, doesn't make them the factory. I don't know any factory that has time to sell and manufacturer. One day we will get these people to understand the difference. One post at a time. ;) Thanks also for providing the link.
regards,
James
WDC Intl Inc
Hahahaha! Finally! Now we Are getting to the crux of the matter. If you are truly doing business in Intl Trade you should understand all the terms. Manufacturers don't sell products, no more than Buyers make them. Just because someone says they're the factory, doesn't make them the factory. I don't know any factory that has time to sell and manufacturer. One day we will get these people to understand the difference. One post at a time. ;) Thanks also for providing the link.
regards,
James
WDC Intl Inc
03 Feb 2007 16:20
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