I found this compnay "Saimaan Bishop" on www.alibaba.com site trading Nokia mobile phones. I talked with a guy called himself ";Beman Shoel". He said, that he is in Poland but their warehouse is in UK, he showed me his compnay's webpage http://www.zadiar.pl/ but I guess it's not their webpage, it's just a page that they found in the internet and the contacts are not good. I tried to call on that phone that is on that website and it was wrong and I tried to write the e-mail that was shown on that page, but nobody responded.

So I agreed to buy from him 5 units of Nokia N95-8GB mobile phones for 1000 euro or 1600 usd. The first of he asked me to pay Western Union and send me this payment details: "First Name: Stephen Other Name: Oke; city: warsaw; state: warsaw; zip code: 02468; country: poland". he told me that this person is his company "sales accountant", but I didn't make this payment. When I told him that I can pay only bank transfer and asked him for bank payment details and he send me this information: "Bank Name: Millennium Bank Beneficiary: Hason Lateef Iban: PL86116022020000000113028312 Swift Code: BIGBPLPWXXX Address: Lim Jerozolimskie 65/79 Warszawa"

Then I told him that I will not pay to personal account. Then he told me that I can do western union to my husbant or somebody I know to UK, and when I will recieve the goods I will be able to to change this name to his name or somebody who can pick up the money. Finaly I did W/U payment on 2008.07.15. to my husbant "Vladas Mankevicius" and told him that payment is made and he cabn deliver the goods. Yesterday on 2008.07.17 I checked in the WU page that money is picked up and all the situation became suspicious to me. Today 2008.07.18 I came to WU agen  in Lithuania to cancel this WU payment but they said that is not possible because the money is picked up. But my husbant was in Lithuania and did not pick up the money. Somebody else with fake personal ID or passport took the money. Today 2008.07.18 I applied to the police station but they just listened my story and I am waiting for the information where should I apply that the investigation should be started. This person "Beman Shoeal" is still answering the phone and he told me that he send me the goods and instead of 5 phones he send me 25 units and right now I have to pay for all the rest of units.

Now I understand what a fool I was. Just wanted to worn others, who can be a victim of such scam! I lost 1000 euro and I hope that nobody else will loos an euro more!

Wow! They get better and better at scamming all the time! I think some of the people doing the scamming are criminals and they see the lax policies on Alibaba as an open door to cheat every way they can think of. In fact I think Alibaba is being taken over by these criminals. I have even gotten message through TradeManager and when I will not take payment in what I know is a scam, first the person argues and then they curse you. Or they ask you a questions and then come back with an insult. This site seems to be getting worse and worse every day.  

 

You know that this person had to be a criminal to have been able to produce fake ID and pickup money at WU like that and I don't suppose there is much that the police can do. Most of the countries from which these scams are being ran will not cooperate with the law enforcement from other countries. Nigeria has always been a problem for law enforcement. At one time the scams in Nigeria where the 3rd largest industry. This is too large of a business for Nigeria to crack down on. I do not mean to offend anyone from Africa because I know there are some legitimate businesses in Africa as well. In fact it must be very difficult to a Nigerian businessman with all the scams that come out of that country.

I hate to hear stories like yours, but I am not sure what one can do about them. Thank you for letting us all know about this latest scam.

 

Classic scam, it happend to me as well in the early stages of my learning curve. I lost around 700 euros few years ago in same mobile phone scam.

Dont give up hope... as long as you have learnt a lesson from this and not given up your hope, you have not lost much...

Good luck for the future....

 

I found this compnay "Dongguan Jie Xi Ya Golf Co., Ltd." on www.alibaba.com site trading Golf Clubs. I talked with a guy called himself ";Mr Mike Xiao" yhat he can supply sample golf clubs but I would have to pay for shipping by Western Union money transfer.  Since the payment I am not having any communication and I have not received any sample golf clubs.  I am contacting the number on the web site contact details but nobody responds.

Please BEWARE as I believe this will begin to happen more.

If the information I have provide above Mr Mike Xiao  from Dongguan Jie Xi Ya Golf Co., Ltd. is incorrect then please respond to your phone calls and email.

 

Quoting from [JurgitaM]:

I found this compnay "Saimaan Bishop" on www.alibaba.com site trading Nokia mobile phones. I talked with a guy called himself ";Beman Shoel". He said, that he is in Poland but their warehouse is in UK, he showed me his compnay's webpage http://www.zadiar.pl/ but I guess it's not their webpage, it's just a page that they found in the internet and the contacts are not good. I tried to call on that phone that is on that website and it was wrong and I tried to write the e-mail that was shown on that page, but nobody responded.

So I agreed to buy from him 5 units of Nokia N95-8GB mobile phones for 1000 euro or 1600 usd. The first of he asked me to pay Western Union and send me this payment details: "First Name: Stephen Other Name: Oke; city: warsaw; state: warsaw; zip code: 02468; country: poland". he told me that this person is his company "sales accountant", but I didn't make this payment. When I told him that I can pay only bank transfer and asked him for bank payment details and he send me this information: "Bank Name: Millennium Bank Beneficiary: Hason Lateef Iban: PL86116022020000000113028312 Swift Code: BIGBPLPWXXX Address: Lim Jerozolimskie 65/79 Warszawa"

Then I told him that I will not pay to personal account. Then he told me that I can do western union to my husbant or somebody I know to UK, and when I will recieve the goods I will be able to to change this name to his name or somebody who can pick up the money. Finaly I did W/U payment on 2008.07.15. to my husbant "Vladas Mankevicius" and told him that payment is made and he cabn deliver the goods. Yesterday on 2008.07.17 I checked in the WU page that money is picked up and all the situation became suspicious to me. Today 2008.07.18 I came to WU agen  in Lithuania to cancel this WU payment but they said that is not possible because the money is picked up. But my husbant was in Lithuania and did not pick up the money. Somebody else with fake personal ID or passport took the money. Today 2008.07.18 I applied to the police station but they just listened my story and I am waiting for the information where should I apply that the investigation should be started. This person "Beman Shoeal" is still answering the phone and he told me that he send me the goods and instead of 5 phones he send me 25 units and right now I have to pay for all the rest of units.

Now I understand what a fool I was. Just wanted to worn others, who can be a victim of such scam! I lost 1000 euro and I hope that nobody else will loos an euro more

HI ,thanks for you share with us about this thing.

Quoting from [JurgitaM]:

I found this compnay "Saimaan Bishop" on www.alibaba.com site trading Nokia mobile phones. I talked with a guy called himself ";Beman Shoel". He said, that he is in Poland but their warehouse is in UK, he showed me his compnay's webpage http://www.zadiar.pl/ but I guess it's not their webpage, it's just a page that they found in the internet and the contacts are not good. I tried to call on that phone that is on that website and it was wrong and I tried to write the e-mail that was shown on that page, but nobody responded.

So I agreed to buy from him 5 units of Nokia N95-8GB mobile phones for 1000 euro or 1600 usd. The first of he asked me to pay Western Union and send me this payment details: "First Name: Stephen Other Name: Oke; city: warsaw; state: warsaw; zip code: 02468; country: poland". he told me that this person is his company "sales accountant", but I didn't make this payment. When I told him that I can pay only bank transfer and asked him for bank payment details and he send me this information: "Bank Name: Millennium Bank Beneficiary: Hason Lateef Iban: PL86116022020000000113028312 Swift Code: BIGBPLPWXXX Address: Lim Jerozolimskie 65/79 Warszawa"

Then I told him that I will not pay to personal account. Then he told me that I can do western union to my husbant or somebody I know to UK, and when I will recieve the goods I will be able to to change this name to his name or somebody who can pick up the money. Finaly I did W/U payment on 2008.07.15. to my husbant "Vladas Mankevicius" and told him that payment is made and he cabn deliver the goods. Yesterday on 2008.07.17 I checked in the WU page that money is picked up and all the situation became suspicious to me. Today 2008.07.18 I came to WU agen  in Lithuania to cancel this WU payment but they said that is not possible because the money is picked up. But my husbant was in Lithuania and did not pick up the money. Somebody else with fake personal ID or passport took the money. Today 2008.07.18 I applied to the police station but they just listened my story and I am waiting for the information where should I apply that the investigation should be started. This person "Beman Shoeal" is still answering the phone and he told me that he send me the goods and instead of 5 phones he send me 25 units and right now I have to pay for all the rest of units.

Now I understand what a fool I was. Just wanted to worn others, who can be a victim of such scam! I lost 1000 euro and I hope that nobody else will loos an euro more!

By the way be awire of Mlenium limited trading co, its 100% fraud

Labas Jurgita!

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I have found a company that is demanding goods they never paid for - Mr dimitris markakis - BEWARE - he says that he sent payment via Western Union - I dont accept western union due to our countries "Terrorist Act"  bill passed through legislation- which clearly states that ALL funds coming into its borders are subject to scrunity of national security and our policing system.

 

He is a conartist and a scammer - I warn anyone against him. Also I asked him for reference details - he says that he does not have any. I asked him who he sent the funds to - he says he couldnt remember.

 

His full details as displayed on Alibaba are as follows

Company:	markakis
Address:	markakis2005@yahoo.gr
Country:	Greece
Phone:	30-6977-980478

BEWARE - this is the second person who i have come across trying to get goods for free using fraudulent means. IT IS NOT ONLY LIMITED TO FALSE SELLERS.

 

Quoting from [JurgitaM]:

I found this compnay "Saimaan Bishop" on www.alibaba.com site trading Nokia mobile phones. I talked with a guy called himself ";Beman Shoel". He said, that he is in Poland but their warehouse is in UK, he showed me his compnay's webpage http://www.zadiar.pl/ but I guess it's not their webpage, it's just a page that they found in the internet and the contacts are not good. I tried to call on that phone that is on that website and it was wrong and I tried to write the e-mail that was shown on that page, but nobody responded.

So I agreed to buy from him 5 units of Nokia N95-8GB mobile phones for 1000 euro or 1600 usd. The first of he asked me to pay Western Union and send me this payment details: "First Name: Stephen Other Name: Oke; city: warsaw; state: warsaw; zip code: 02468; country: poland". he told me that this person is his company "sales accountant", but I didn't make this payment. When I told him that I can pay only bank transfer and asked him for bank payment details and he send me this information: "Bank Name: Millennium Bank Beneficiary: Hason Lateef Iban: PL86116022020000000113028312 Swift Code: BIGBPLPWXXX Address: Lim Jerozolimskie 65/79 Warszawa"

Then I told him that I will not pay to personal account. Then he told me that I can do western union to my husbant or somebody I know to UK, and when I will recieve the goods I will be able to to change this name to his name or somebody who can pick up the money. Finaly I did W/U payment on 2008.07.15. to my husbant "Vladas Mankevicius" and told him that payment is made and he cabn deliver the goods. Yesterday on 2008.07.17 I checked in the WU page that money is picked up and all the situation became suspicious to me. Today 2008.07.18 I came to WU agen  in Lithuania to cancel this WU payment but they said that is not possible because the money is picked up. But my husbant was in Lithuania and did not pick up the money. Somebody else with fake personal ID or passport took the money. Today 2008.07.18 I applied to the police station but they just listened my story and I am waiting for the information where should I apply that the investigation should be started. This person "Beman Shoeal" is still answering the phone and he told me that he send me the goods and instead of 5 phones he send me 25 units and right now I have to pay for all the rest of units.

Now I understand what a fool I was. Just wanted to worn others, who can be a victim of such scam! I lost 1000 euro and I hope that nobody else will loos an euro more!

That guy is on a ,majority of sites scamming his way round - he has also hacked into peoples Paypal accounts sending funds - he tried it on me as well - I sell on iOffer and Ebay - luckily the real owner was alerted to it by an Ebay rep and the real owner got back to me - he is a big scammer and it is beyond me why UK officials dont shut him down.

Quoting from [JurgitaM]:

I found this compnay "Saimaan Bishop" on www.alibaba.com site trading Nokia mobile phones. I talked with a guy called himself ";Beman Shoel". He said, that he is in Poland but their warehouse is in UK, he showed me his compnay's webpage http://www.zadiar.pl/ but I guess it's not their webpage, it's just a page that they found in the internet and the contacts are not good. I tried to call on that phone that is on that website and it was wrong and I tried to write the e-mail that was shown on that page, but nobody responded.

So I agreed to buy from him 5 units of Nokia N95-8GB mobile phones for 1000 euro or 1600 usd. The first of he asked me to pay Western Union and send me this payment details: "First Name: Stephen Other Name: Oke; city: warsaw; state: warsaw; zip code: 02468; country: poland". he told me that this person is his company "sales accountant", but I didn't make this payment. When I told him that I can pay only bank transfer and asked him for bank payment details and he send me this information: "Bank Name: Millennium Bank Beneficiary: Hason Lateef Iban: PL86116022020000000113028312 Swift Code: BIGBPLPWXXX Address: Lim Jerozolimskie 65/79 Warszawa"

Then I told him that I will not pay to personal account. Then he told me that I can do western union to my husbant or somebody I know to UK, and when I will recieve the goods I will be able to to change this name to his name or somebody who can pick up the money. Finaly I did W/U payment on 2008.07.15. to my husbant "Vladas Mankevicius" and told him that payment is made and he cabn deliver the goods. Yesterday on 2008.07.17 I checked in the WU page that money is picked up and all the situation became suspicious to me. Today 2008.07.18 I came to WU agen in Lithuania to cancel this WU payment but they said that is not possible because the money is picked up. But my husbant was in Lithuania and did not pick up the money. Somebody else with fake personal ID or passport took the money. Today 2008.07.18 I applied to the police station but they just listened my story and I am waiting for the information where should I apply that the investigation should be started. This person "Beman Shoeal" is still answering the phone and he told me that he send me the goods and instead of 5 phones he send me 25 units and right now I have to pay for all the rest of units.

Now I understand what a fool I was. Just wanted to worn others, who can be a victim of such scam! I lost 1000 euro and I hope that nobody else will loos an euro more!

You said that you couldn't talk to anybody on the phone numbers indicated in the fake website, and you didn't receive any email response from them. And then you decided to place the order? I think that this is not the way to protect yourself. If you take the time and read the relevant articles in the alibaba website, they give very precise information on how to perform trading activities, and uncover fake sellers / scammers. I think you should be very careful next time before you send any money.


Good luck!


Regards,

Anastasios

Quoting from [chenchau]:

Wow! They get better and better at scamming all the time! I think some of the people doing the scamming are criminals and they see the lax policies on Alibaba as an open door to cheat every way they can think of. In fact I think Alibaba is being taken over by these criminals. I have even gotten message through TradeManager and when I will not take payment in what I know is a scam, first the person argues and then they curse you. Or they ask you a questions and then come back with an insult. This site seems to be getting worse and worse every day.  

 

You know that this person had to be a criminal to have been able to produce fake ID and pickup money at WU like that and I don't suppose there is much that the police can do. Most of the countries from which these scams are being ran will not cooperate with the law enforcement from other countries. Nigeria has always been a problem for law enforcement. At one time the scams in Nigeria where the 3rd largest industry. This is too large of a business for Nigeria to crack down on. I do not mean to offend anyone from Africa because I know there are some legitimate businesses in Africa as well. In fact it must be very difficult to a Nigerian businessman with all the scams that come out of that country.

I hate to hear stories like yours, but I am not sure what one can do about them. Thank you for letting us all know about this latest scam.

 

 

 

I am really sorry for your experience.Its a pity that fraudulent people take advantage of businesses on Alibaba,Google,Ebay etc but unfortunately,there is not much the law enforcement  can do.I am a Nigerian and ofcourse a legitimate businessman since I started my business 15 years ago.

We have to be very careful when dealing with businesses online ,especially when it comes to paying cash.Western union payment is always very fraudulent when it comes to paying for businesses.I will advice a bank transfer,letter of credit etc and once the number or information on a website does not correspond  or does not respond,think twice or even more before you continue.

I wish you success in your business.

Quoting from [JurgitaM]:

So I agreed to buy from him 5 units of Nokia N95-8GB mobile phones for 1000 euro or 1600 usd. The first of he asked me to pay Western Union and send me this payment details: "First Name: Stephen Other Name: Oke; city: warsaw; state: warsaw; zip code: 02468; country: poland". he told me that this person is his company "sales accountant", but I didn't make this payment. When I told him that I can pay only bank transfer and asked him for bank payment details and he send me this information: "Bank Name: Millennium Bank Beneficiary: Hason Lateef Iban: PL86116022020000000113028312 Swift Code: BIGBPLPWXXX Address: Lim Jerozolimskie 65/79 Warszawa"

It's a pity, but please take into consideration, that Nokia 95 8GB in Poland cost about 450-500 euro! You can easy check it on www.ebay.pl or www.allegro.pl


The bank Millenium is a real big bank, but the name of owner is not polish, its sounds arabic.

You can contact with this bank, and inform them about this case, you can find contact details in english here:

http://www.millenet.pl/about_bank/contact/


Owner of their website is an individual person, not a company, and register of this domain:

REGISTRAR:	Home.pl Sp. J.
	pl. RodBa 9
	70-419 Szczecin
	Polska/Poland
	+48.914325555
	+48.801445555
	info@home.pl

You can also inform them.


It may be also helpfull:

Zadiar

[w. Maksymiliana 12

44-207 Rybnik

Polska

[lskie 

NAME OF OWNER THIS DIRTY BUSINNESS:  Tomasz Szozda

mobile: +48 692639209

adress: 44-207 Rybnik ul. Zw.Maksymiliana 12/38

Poland


I think, I gave you all needed data, so you really should go to the police.


Regards: Thomas