Hi,

I paid a fraudulent company PT.Centrobabystroller in Indonesia $2,500 using TT and have been conned by them with no product.

I called my bank within 48 hours but they said the money had left the country! Is it two late is it possible to get it back from Indonesia.

Thanks

Nicole

Quoting from [Nick AUS]:

Hi,

I paid a fraudulent company PT.Centrobabystroller in Indonesia $2,500 using TT and have been conned by them with no product.

I called my bank within 48 hours but they said the money had left the country! Is it two late is it possible to get it back from Indonesia.

Thanks

Nicole

Nope its gone.  You did your due diligence to late.  Banks will not safegard T/T payments to anyone as they are only providing a service by which anyone transfering their money should have excuted reasonable caution in verifying that the business or person the money was sent to was legitimate.  Even credit card companies will not protect you for funds sent to other businesses as that business needs only to provide documentation that they sent something via trackable transport, and in the case of payment prior to a download of some kind of information or software the refund would have to be initiated by the supplier.  With credit cards only if you can show that your number was used fraudulently then in most circumstances it would be protected. 

However, I assume that you personally went to your bank, showed your identification, before the counter credit bank transfer was even initiated.

I was curious if you knew that most of what this company claims they are selling can only be bought directly from the Brand holders warehouse a few of the brand names have supply chain distributors none of which are located in Indonesia.  Lets take this sellers claim to be selling Peg Perego strollers.  A simple search would have told you that this is a family owned and operated company in the USA with manufacturing facilities and warehouses in Brazil, Italy, USA, and Canada and that they only sell to retailers.

The moral to this story is that information is readily available on any name brand product, you just have to do the work and have the inclination to check.  This is one of the biggest operations that a great sourcing agent does for their buyer.  They protect their business name while protecting the resources of their buying clients.

Ranger 

Yes .. agree with you Ranger...I wonder too...?


Why  so many people so easy believe  with  Indonesian Scam that offering

such a brand name and Hi-tech product that impossible been made in Indonesia.

and more impossible with  extremely  down to earth prices ?

somehow that they would be a victim  for unreasonable  trade/transaction.

a speculation with "total loss - All full risk" no insurance.

Whilst I believe that the diligence it self  were been with them before and after the deal?


Until  Opa Wilhelm  and others get so pathetic with  Indonesian .................=scams

Or the inventor/ launcher of  internet / e-commerce has to face a guilty feeling that they

invention for humanity/society  had brought a saddest dramatic of fraud/scam victim ?


In my optic vision, analogy  with "driving in freeway"  i remember "drive safely" as any

possibility will come to us in freeway, being unaware you will hit others or other drivers

(careless one) will hit you.  versi versa. But on freeway,  a Patrol Police has a right to

stop you whenever they Suspicious us in "drive not safe" . I forgot for the 3 letters for it.

in  their "terminology"  ...do you catch it .?    rgrds

Quoting from [Oneuni]:


Yes .. agree with you Ranger...I wonder too...?



Why  so many people so easy believe  with  Indonesian Scam that offering


such a brand name and Hi-tech product that impossible been made in Indonesia.


and more impossible with  extremely  down to earth prices ?


somehow that they would be a victim  for unreasonable  trade/transaction.


a speculation with "total loss - All full risk" no insurance.


Whilst I believe that the diligence it self  were been with them before and after the deal?



Until  Opa Wilhelm  and others get so pathetic with  Indonesian .................=scams


Or the inventor/ launcher of  internet / e-commerce has to face a guilty feeling that they


invention for humanity/society  had brought a saddest dramatic of fraud/scam victim ?



In my optic vision, analogy  with "driving in freeway"  i remember "drive safely" as any


possibility will come to us in freeway, being unaware you will hit others or other drivers


(careless one) will hit you.  versi versa. But on freeway,  a Patrol Police has a right to


stop you whenever they Suspicious us in "drive not safe" . I forgot for the 3 letters for it.


in  their "terminology"  ...do you catch it .?    rgrds

Yep, we do!

Moral of the story is: If it is too good to be true, it is too good to be true! Catch it?