I have lost money and I know how uncomfortable it feels to be in a position when you are not sure about the trade you wish to launch. Are these people scammers or not ? Are your goods faked, are the products be as good as the samples, is there any proof about the banking transaction, etc... all those questions that make you sick and tired.
I'm Europe. My partner in China.
We are like Trade Checker.
We check if company exist.
We check the samples and goods.
We bargain.
We can buy in bigger order for different companies and let the price fall.
We check for the transaction.
We check the shipping from factory to final destination.
We Check and confirm everyday.
By this method, We make sure that Scammers are out.
Cause we handle everything for you.
All cost maybe lowered if we federate a product on our website and put a maximum of order on it.
Example : You want a specific phone, we verify the supplier and then put the product online on our site so as other buyers who would like to have this product can join us to buy in bigger quantity. We make the price go down and then buy in bulk. We check every product on factory line and send the ordered goods to every buyer.
If you think its good idea to make you trade safely - Contact us.
I you think that this can make Alibaba sure and free from scammers - Write
Together we can be stronger than alone.
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Quoting from [syljimmy]:
What's that ?
4 hours ago complaining about to get scammed for 1200 US$ !!!
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/313298/Finland_and_Malaysia_Scammers_on_Alibaba_com.htm
And now a Trade Checker, qualified for companies check, samples check, shipping check, everyday check and and and check ???
Very unusual !!
Better you make first some homeworks, or remain in your Handicapped business !
Wilhelm
Quoting from [syljimmy]:I have lost money and I know how uncomfortable it feels to be in a position when you are not sure about the trade you wish to launch. Are these people scammers or not ? Are your goods faked, are the products be as good as the samples, is there any proof about the banking transaction, etc... all those questions that make you sick and tired.
I'm Europe. My partner in China.
We are like Trade Checker.
We check if company exist.
We check the samples and goods.
We bargain.
We can buy in bigger order for different companies and let the price fall.
We check for the transaction.
We check the shipping from factory to final destination.
We Check and confirm everyday.
By this method, We make sure that Scammers are out.
Cause we handle everything for you.
All cost maybe lowered if we federate a product on our website and put a maximum of order on it.
Example : You want a specific phone, we verify the supplier and then put the product online on our site so as other buyers who would like to have this product can join us to buy in bigger quantity. We make the price go down and then buy in bulk. We check every product on factory line and send the ordered goods to every buyer.
If you think its good idea to make you trade safely - Contact us.
I you think that this can make Alibaba sure and free from scammers - Write
Together we can be stronger than alone.
*******************.comNO CONTACT DETAILS HERE, MOD
You have lost money and now you want to make money from people that want to deal in China, if the buyers check the suppliers and understand the products first, most people would not send money to these suppliers, just a question for you!
How many factories in China have you visited? as for the Chinese person in China this don't make him a expert. ![[em19]](http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_great.gif){kind=icon}
Quoting from [wilhelm]:Quoting from [syljimmy]:
What's that ?
4 hours ago complaining about to get scammed for 1200 US$ !!!
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/313298/Finland_and_Malaysia_Scammers_on_Alibaba_com.htm
And now a Trade Checker, qualified for companies check, samples check, shipping check, everyday check and and and check ???
Very unusual !!
Better you make first some homeworks, or remain in your Handicapped business !
Wilhelm
Yes In fact. Dear Wilhelm, "Very Unusual".
I did not started something without any experience.
Far from China, I had a bad experience because I was alone.
I had to be close and closer and be on field to react.
My message about Findland and Malaysia means that not only chineese companies are scammers. Scammers are eveywhere. And I'll * them sooner or later.
Today the whole family and some partners and out in China and India not only for check but also to business. Not so many companies can send staff abroad for long time.
My production manager is out in China for the whole year. Can you afford something like that. I did not made this only for me, but also for those who cannot afford checking.
As you've seen, my homeworks are done. And don't worry about handicapped persons. Today they are working with me because our trade is now sure.
We stand up everytime we fall. Until we don't fall anymore
Syljimmy
Quoting from [Strongman Products]:Quoting from [syljimmy]:I have lost money and I know how uncomfortable it feels to be in a position when you are not sure about the trade you wish to launch. Are these people scammers or not ? Are your goods faked, are the products be as good as the samples, is there any proof about the banking transaction, etc... all those questions that make you sick and tired.
I'm Europe. My partner in China.
We are like Trade Checker.
We check if company exist.
We check the samples and goods.
We bargain.
We can buy in bigger order for different companies and let the price fall.
We check for the transaction.
We check the shipping from factory to final destination.
We Check and confirm everyday.
By this method, We make sure that Scammers are out.
Cause we handle everything for you.
All cost maybe lowered if we federate a product on our website and put a maximum of order on it.
Example : You want a specific phone, we verify the supplier and then put the product online on our site so as other buyers who would like to have this product can join us to buy in bigger quantity. We make the price go down and then buy in bulk. We check every product on factory line and send the ordered goods to every buyer.
If you think its good idea to make you trade safely - Contact us.
I you think that this can make Alibaba sure and free from scammers - Write
Together we can be stronger than alone.
*******************.comNO CONTACT DETAILS HERE, MOD
You have lost money and now you want to make money from people that want to deal in China, if the buyers check the suppliers and understand the products first, most people would not send money to these suppliers, just a question for you!How many factories in China have you visited? as for the Chinese person in China this don't make him a expert.
Hi,
Who said expert ? Did I ?
We you make loss, either you ran away or you stand and fight.
The approach is simple today. Send staff for long time and let them check for us. And why not for you.
If you can't afford, we can do it.
Buyers can check suppliers, understand the product and still send the money. In which world are you living ? You need to learn how to commerce and what the actual market is. I think you don't know what you're talking about, otherwise you would not have said that.
Well 143 manufacturers have been visited. 5178 suppliers were real scammers.
Yes in fact we are not expert.But, WE ARE
SECOND TO NONE
Syljimmy
Hello, How do I make this fraud and theft complaint against a Gold Supplier for stealing my Money?
Fraud, Etc..
The company name is:
(name of the thief)Deffer DengHelen Yuan
Everest Digital Technology Co., Ltd.
Gold Supplier in AlibabaTradeManager: cn200036896
http://Everest.En.Alibaba.com
They stole $940.00 from me for samples, by sending me crap I did not order. She
claims the shipping company sent the wrong order, yeah and I'm really
stupid.
When I asked her to take back the phones, she insisted I sell them to get my
money back. The are not worth $400.00 retail, a real stupid scam.
But she cheated me. After a lot of complaining and sending about 300 annoying
emails to her, she wants me to send the crap back to her, which leaves me with
zero. I would not trust sending her nothing.
If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It is amazing how many scammers are
on Alibaba. Real sad. I could have done a lot of business with them if they were not theives.
Can I post the complaint against them on your site or theirs.
Thank You,
Michael
Quoting from [michaeltaller]:Hi Michael,
Yes you can. My aim is to let all those who've been scammed to write and post their message. And it is important for the scammers to know that even if it is not very big amount of money, the sum of all scams is really big. And together we must put our strength to struggle against them. If the Chineese Government or Alibaba can't do nothing more, we will have to be persuasive. ANd you know how many ways there is to persuade. This is more than a battle, every scammer who read this page should know that the are no longer in peace. Danger will knock without warning. I don't * care if they are fighten or not. SO please send their name, company name and sum they scammed to blacklist them. And Michael, you can send them mail that very soon there will be some cleaning coming.
Quoting from [syljimmy]:
[syljimmy]: You not understand ???
Every posting in this Internet is copied and will be shown by Google and other websites !!
What will it make for a sense, to copy the same complaint to one more website ??
Finding the same name hundred times it will be a problem to read all, but see it 5 times and every time as complaint people should use their brain and decide what they want do !
Wilhelm