Hello All,

Back in November I was scammed by a company for 1000GBP. The person gave me his bank details and i transfered the money to him/her. After this happened i contacted Alibaba, Trading Standards, Police and Citiznes Advice. All of which didnt seem to want to help me. Now i have found someone else who was scammed by a different company but paid money into the same account. Obviously i want my money back so is there anyway i can get it back with his bank details???? I have looked into Paypal which i may try but thought i would get some advice first.

Thanks In Advance

Sa,

Quoting from [SamMcd]:

Hello All,

Back in November I was scammed by a company for 1000GBP. The person gave me his bank details and i transfered the money to him/her. After this happened i contacted Alibaba, Trading Standards, Police and Citiznes Advice. All of which didnt seem to want to help me. Now i have found someone else who was scammed by a different company but paid money into the same account. Obviously i want my money back so is there anyway i can get it back with his bank details???? I have looked into Paypal which i may try but thought i would get some advice first.

Thanks In Advance

Sa,

 

Is this the actual name of the company that scammed you? ZONIXS LTD?

The company Zonix Ltd. as you have spelled it is not a company in any country that lists companies as Ltd.'s.  When money is sent to a personal account regardless of the bank details you have are not sufficient proof to claim a refund.  Especially if the none of the business address details match that of the personal account holder.  A simple phone call to the bank that holds the account would have told you if it was business and or personal account.  Even then you could confirm the name of the company account matched what you were given.  Since Zonix Ltd.  does not exist your trnasfer had to be to a different business account or most probally a personal account.

So you basically have a few GBP's in one hand and 1000GBP's in the other.  The phone call would have saved you 997GBP's

Ranger

Quoting from [SamMcd]:

Hello All,

Back in November I was scammed by a company for 1000GBP. The person gave me his bank details and i transfered the money to him/her. After this happened i contacted Alibaba, Trading Standards, Police and Citiznes Advice. All of which didnt seem to want to help me. Now i have found someone else who was scammed by a different company but paid money into the same account. Obviously i want my money back so is there anyway i can get it back with his bank details???? I have looked into Paypal which i may try but thought i would get some advice first.

Thanks In Advance

Sa,

 

Hope you can learn a lesson from this terrible business experience. Once the money has been scammed, zero chance for you to retrieve it. A lot of suppliers would demand payment in advance, but the terms are unacceptable and unsecured, once we turn down the offer, and they said we're wasting time.

Quoting from [SamMcd]:

Hello All,

Back in November I was scammed by a company for 1000GBP. The person gave me his bank details and i transfered the money to him/her. After this happened i contacted Alibaba, Trading Standards, Police and Citiznes Advice. All of which didnt seem to want to help me. Now i have found someone else who was scammed by a different company but paid money into the same account. Obviously i want my money back so is there anyway i can get it back with his bank details???? I have looked into Paypal which i may try but thought i would get some advice first.

Thanks In Advance

Sa,

 Hi there mate I also had the missfortune of trusting a stupid thief on alibaba and got scamed for $3500 which has made me hate the indonesian race alibaba has done nothing either .

I am currently looking at a way to alert the first world about this bogus trading site they should hold themselfes responsible for the bad publicity they are causing for there country .

They are a lying yellow bunch of thieves and the only honest one is a dead one

Hello everyone,


So far i have been doing business via Alibaba and I can tell you one thing - most scammers are the Indonesian sellers of expensive electronics goods.  I have never ever been scammed by anyone from china. But I have been scammed by an indonesian seller.  If you have no sufficient proof of the sellers legitimacy than i advise you not to do business. The aformentioned method of phoning the bank is one way but there are other ways to check the legitimacy. I am wondering why Indonesian authorities are not doing anything to stop this happening? Surely it would be easy to arrest the scammers as they go to collect the money in western union office or bank?

Quoting from [SamMcd]:

Hello All,

Back in November I was scammed by a company for 1000GBP. The person gave me his bank details and i transfered the money to him/her. After this happened i contacted Alibaba, Trading Standards, Police and Citiznes Advice. All of which didnt seem to want to help me. Now i have found someone else who was scammed by a different company but paid money into the same account. Obviously i want my money back so is there anyway i can get it back with his bank details???? I have looked into Paypal which i may try but thought i would get some advice first.

Thanks In Advance

Sa,

 

Hello Everyone,

My advises as an expert international trader, just follow the simple rules befor you trade with a new or unknow company.  If you follow these rules, your chance to lose your money almost ZERO.

1) First check the prices or quotes of the good you are intentend to buy. For example,  I have made a contact one company in indonesia about  a yacht and price was 1/3 of the normal market value. Now,  who gives you a product  normal value for 90 K  then sell to you for 30 ? I would not, lets say some crazy stupid or thies would, then I would point 2 things straight away.. a) He is dogy and ofcourse scammer.  b) he stole the item or item is not working at all.. Usually first choice a) ...

2) Now, say this time more professional thinking thief :)) ,  And his prices about %75 off normal price. Then you might think it legimate.. I would..:) at first impression.. BUT, this time, I would ask him LC , its only costy %1 of total amount and if he accepts then make sure your LC  has a condition of FUNDS RELEASE AFTER INSPECTION..  now your responsibility is If the good is arrived, then check all functions or matching criteria your order. Once you sign the fund release form, there is no turning back. But , usually scammers do not advertise LC ,  and always  Western Union or Bank transfer. 

3) Your first important lesson before you jump to scam deals..  Check if they are Gold Supplier  or verified trader by ali baba .. ( some time you might really organised company aswell)  So, go to step 2 and check their payment terms, tt in advance and western union then just pass and forget it. Step 3)  If company accept LC or Alipay and gold or verified supplier then, all you have to do just do simply instructions Number 2 and make sure you recieved right goods or products you ordered, then WALLA....  Specially, if someone asking to transfer the money account does not much their records ?? No way..

I think most of the time people get conned because of their greed .. Sorry, but I have to be honest in my comments. Overall, good news, I just recently registered well good domain name for international payment system and currently talking to worldwide known bank asked to my programmers finished programs and hopefully will be alive within 6 months which will give more security to small traders around the world. Because,  I have been there before and I know all loop holes to cover and protect new small traders.. Because, bigger companies like mine already principles on trading terms. But, finger X, till finish this system, you must be well aware advices above to protect your hard earn money.  I hope, I was advisefull to your future trades. If you have any doubt or question do not hesitate to contact my email, user name also my email aswell.

Take care and good luck all...

A. C.

Quoting from [infoaldemrealestacom]:

Quoting from [SamMcd]:

Hello All,

Back in November I was scammed by a company for 1000GBP. The person gave me his bank details and i transfered the money to him/her. After this happened i contacted Alibaba, Trading Standards, Police and Citiznes Advice. All of which didnt seem to want to help me. Now i have found someone else who was scammed by a different company but paid money into the same account. Obviously i want my money back so is there anyway i can get it back with his bank details???? I have looked into Paypal which i may try but thought i would get some advice first.

Thanks In Advance

Sa,

 

Hello Everyone,

My advises as an expert international trader, just follow the simple rules befor you trade with a new or unknow company.  If you follow these rules, your chance to lose your money almost ZERO.

1) First check the prices or quotes of the good you are intentend to buy. For example,  I have made a contact one company in indonesia about  a yacht and price was 1/3 of the normal market value. Now,  who gives you a product  normal value for 90 K  then sell to you for 30 ? I would not, lets say some crazy stupid or thies would, then I would point 2 things straight away.. a) He is dogy and ofcourse scammer.  b) he stole the item or item is not working at all.. Usually first choice a) ...

2) Now, say this time more professional thinking thief :)) ,  And his prices about %75 off normal price. Then you might think it legimate.. I would..:) at first impression.. BUT, this time, I would ask him LC , its only costy %1 of total amount and if he accepts then make sure your LC  has a condition of FUNDS RELEASE AFTER INSPECTION..  now your responsibility is If the good is arrived, then check all functions or matching criteria your order. Once you sign the fund release form, there is no turning back. But , usually scammers do not advertise LC ,  and always  Western Union or Bank transfer. 

3) Your first important lesson before you jump to scam deals..  Check if they are Gold Supplier  or verified trader by ali baba .. ( some time you might really organised company aswell)  So, go to step 2 and check their payment terms, tt in advance and western union then just pass and forget it. Step 3)  If company accept LC or Alipay and gold or verified supplier then, all you have to do just do simply instructions Number 2 and make sure you recieved right goods or products you ordered, then WALLA....  Specially, if someone asking to transfer the money account does not much their records ?? No way..

I think most of the time people get conned because of their greed .. Sorry, but I have to be honest in my comments. Overall, good news, I just recently registered well good domain name for international payment system and currently talking to worldwide known bank asked to my programmers finished programs and hopefully will be alive within 6 months which will give more security to small traders around the world. Because,  I have been there before and I know all loop holes to cover and protect new small traders.. Because, bigger companies like mine already principles on trading terms. But, finger X, till finish this system, you must be well aware advices above to protect your hard earn money.  I hope, I was advisefull to your future trades. If you have any doubt or question do not hesitate to contact my email, user name also my email aswell.

Take care and good luck all...

A. C.

Quoting from [SamMcd]:

Hello All,

Back in November I was scammed by a company for 1000GBP. The person gave me his bank details and i transfered the money to him/her. After this happened i contacted Alibaba, Trading Standards, Police and Citiznes Advice. All of which didnt seem to want to help me. Now i have found someone else who was scammed by a different company but paid money into the same account. Obviously i want my money back so is there anyway i can get it back with his bank details???? I have looked into Paypal which i may try but thought i would get some advice first.

Thanks In Advance

Sa,

 Hi I think I,m being scammed right now for 500usd by a comp: out of indonisia. I paid by Western Union (big Mistake) There is no way to get your money back. If you do a Bank transfer . Your bank should be helping you .

Tom.

Quoting from [infoaldemrealestacom]:

2) Now, say this time more professional thinking thief :)) , And his prices about %75 off normal price. Then you might think it legimate.. I would..:) at first impression.. BUT, this time, I would ask him LC , its only costy %1 of total amount and if he accepts then make sure your LC has a condition of FUNDS RELEASE AFTER INSPECTION.. now your responsibility is If the good is arrived, then check all functions or matching criteria your order. Once you sign the fund release form, there is no turning back. But , usually scammers do not advertise LC , and always Western Union or Bank transfer.

3) Your first important lesson before you jump to scam deals.. Check if they are Gold Supplier or verified trader by ali baba .. ( some time you might really organised company aswell) So, go to step 2 and check their payment terms, tt in advance and western union then just pass and forget it. Step 3) If company accept LC or Alipay and gold or verified supplier then, all you have to do just do simply instructions Number 2 and make sure you recieved right goods or products you ordered, then WALLA.... Specially, if someone asking to transfer the money account does not much their records ?? No way..

A. C.