Quoting from [francis teo]:

I personally believe in green and clean.Green to protect our Earth, use recycled material.Clean remove the rubbish, recycle and reuse.

Yeh.. recently come across a new material in wikipedia.org  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_reinforced_composite

The material is created via advanced composite technology combining Rice Hull / Rice Husk and Plastic bottles. into a timber like material...Rice husk... burnt away in millions of tons per year in South East Asia.Plastic Bottles... thrown in large quantity and used for recycling.

These two ingredients become the perfect ingredient for the new material known as fiber reinforced composite. Currently it is commercialized, I think that is the reason why it is in wikipedia.org... The only thing that catch my eye besides using Rice Hull and plastic is that . the Material can be recycled 20 times.   That is interesting.  Cos, the house material can be use again and again... for up to 20 times... This is unheard of...

Anyway. I contact the scientist and manage to get a container load of it for building a house. Yeh.. after using it. We realise that that the material is great for building houses.... and we build two low cost house with it.

Without using Timber... ZERO trees are cut.It is built like BUILDING with LEGO, as the materal is molded to have tongue and groove and all the color are mixed in the material before hand .... No painting needed.Yeh... Criteria for low cost housing ... The first criteria for me.

- ZERO timber usage,

- Long LASTING, and

- termite free,

- Toxic Free.

- Fast to Build 10 days or less per house and LOW COST.... preferably around 10,000 USD or less for 500 sq feet.

 I'm interested. Where can I find more info?

Sir:


Interested in promoting your products in south america and africa. Kindly arrange to send the details on the products and any marketing promotional material so that I can contact the customers. Thank you.


Ram

Among the many thoughts that came to my mind are:

- Do you have a commercial interest in this product or company? Sounds like it!

- No trees chopped down? Who cares! You either chop them down or they'll fall down by themselves as they get old. - Over-exploitation is the only problem.

- Rice hulls have been used for some time as a loose infill - successfully! So why grinding them up, grinding up the plastic, melting it all together, extruding it, etc. That all costs money and energy, besides causing contamination.

Bottomline: I'm not impressed!

Bottomline: I'm not impressed!

Dont get too impressed. cos we enjoy to be clean and green.


Be green, cut less forest, to have the forest for our future

And we Won Eco Label and being a totally toxic free product, using total waste material as ingredient.




Campaign: No Chopping of trees

Quoting from [francis teo]:Dont get too impressed. cos we enjoy to be clean and green. 


Be green, cut less forest, to have the forest for our future



Campaign: No Chopping of trees.

Francis, don't you think it's about time to give it up? You have made so many mistakes that nobody can possibly believe in you and your system anymore. It's good to be persistent, but not hard-headed!

Just lately I realized that all the posts that inconditionally were in your support came form nicknames that never ever have posted before. What could that mean? We all know the answer!

Another detail was that I made the unintentional mistake of talking about "embedded" energy. That concept doesn't even exist, and any ecologist (but not you) knows that! It should be "embodied energy"...

And so on, and so forth!

Saving the Forest, it should be a all out approach whereby all spectrum of the demand and supply should be catered for.


Creating the Supply - Growing of trees.

Curbing the Demand - Use of Alternative material solution to the human problem.


Only then can we have a all round solution to the Saving the Forest Agenda.


We plant a tree in Africa which usually take 10 years, to even 300 years to become a full grown tree...

But if we dont curb the demand, 1 hr is required to chop down a 10 years effort...


Therefore, I preach the world to grow more trees and use less timber.


Activities that will curb the demand of timber.

================================


1. Use wood from substainable forest. < There is no way that pple will forget abt timber. >

2. Use wood alternative if possible. < My team has developed a new wood alternative that consists of RICE husk + waste plastic >

http://www.squidoo.com/10000usdhouse

3. Use fast renewable resource to replace wood. < Bamboo and coconut, kenaf and rubber and oil palm trees and paulownia trees are fast renewable resource >


Every year there are millions of acre of land to be burnt for agriculture....

We humans did not see that exhausted agriculture plants e.g. rice hull, fruit trees, maize hull... etc.

as resources... But we see that as great fiber being burnt...


4. Extensive research into fiber composite. How to make use of fiber from nature, whether it is waste material etc,

how we can recycle them... for example RICE husk, RICE hull... We have successfully convert it into timber alternative.


Conclusion: To save the forest, It is not only about reduction of usage, it is about finding substainable alternative.

Human demand for resource is always increasing becos of human population growth.


My sincere comments.

thanks

Quoting from [francis teo]:

Quoting from [germex]:

Quoting from [francis teo]:Dont get too impressed. cos we enjoy to be clean and green.









Be green, cut less forest, to have the forest for our future










Campaign: No Chopping of trees.

Francis, don't you think it's about time to give it up? You have made so many mistakes that nobody can possibly believe in you and your system anymore. It's good to be persistent, but not hard-headed!

Just lately I realized that all the posts that inconditionally were in your support came form nicknames that never ever have posted before. What could that mean? We all know the answer!

Another detail was that I made the unintentional mistake of talking about "embedded" energy. That concept doesn't even exist, and any ecologist (but not you) knows that! It should be "embodied energy"...

And so on, and so forth!

I cannot find the word embedded energy in the internet, and found embodied energy, yeh. I am no ecologist... Cute Grandfather is the scientist.





and i am a nobody... who simply want to stop pple from chopping down trees.



My campaign is: Stop chopping the forest, and leave it for our future generation.




Your campaign is: Stop using Plastic, irregardlessly. Zero Plastic.






I respect it..... Let the reader decide...


PS. I am a honest businessman... and will like to show everything about myself.

Quoting from [francis teo]:PS. I am a honest businessman... and will like to show everything about myself.

If you were an honest business man, why would you always talk about trees being chopped down? How many trees does one chop down to create bricks and cement?

On the oposite side, of what is the furniture in your houses made? Plastic?

In all those posts to date I have asked you repeatedly very precise questions, but you never answered them. Is that how you express your honesty? Refusing to look at the facts is a form of deception and dishonesty.

Claiming an ecological interest and then having to admit that you don't know a thing about ecology is another example of your deceptive practices. - As I said before, "and so on, and so forth"...

Quoting from [germex]:

Quoting from [francis teo]:PS. I am a honest businessman... and will like to show everything about myself.

If you were an honest business man, why would you always talk about trees being chopped down? How many trees does one chop down to create bricks and cement?

On the oposite side, of what is the furniture in your houses made? Plastic?

In all those posts to date I have asked you repeatedly very precise questions, but you never answered them. Is that how you express your honesty? Refusing to look at the facts is a form of deception and dishonesty.

Quoting from [francis teo]:

Quoting from [germex]:

Quoting from [francis teo]:PS. I am a honest businessman... and will like to show everything about myself.

If you were an honest business man, why would you always talk about trees being chopped down? How many trees does one chop down to create bricks and cement?

On the oposite side, of what is the furniture in your houses made? Plastic?

In all those posts to date I have asked you repeatedly very precise questions, but you never answered them. Is that how you express your honesty? Refusing to look at the facts is a form of deception and dishonesty.

An environmentalist is anyone who advocate to protect the environment. and he need not be an expert. I am an environmentalist who always work with environment friendly products and advocate best solution for the environment and for human application.






betw. You claim to be an expert and is an ecologist. hurray for you,





But you dont have data to back your research... perhaps a white paper with some statistics will let us know more what is embodied energy of yours. Cos, nobody like us dont really understand your jargon. and of course, some test report will be good start.





As when you ask technical and technological ideas, I dont think I am bright enough to understand, so have to ask researchers... I am not a technical person I mention before. Do yourself a big favor, dont get frustrated with non technical people, cos you are talking abt science terms that is far too extreme for layman like us to understand.





Furniture should be made from recyclable material... or material that can be quickly reproduce... like gr *. etc. bamboo is the best. or paulownia trees are next.





and even composite material or metal will be good candidate of choice.






composite has come a long way in the making, and it is currently being used in all types of airplane structure, millitary structure and even our rockets.







Betw. let me still continue my campaign on using Zero or Minimum trees for human usage. You continue with your no plastic world of yours.






Anyway, good nite.





Betw. can you please obserrve the rules of the forum.




# Do be civilized and considerate.



# Do try and express your thoughts carefully and clearly.



# Do be sure to read what the other person is actually saying and not what you think they may be saying.



# Don't use words and defination from your own dictionary, cos the entire world are using cambridge or oxford dictionary, while we dont know what you mean.



# Don't swear.



# Don't get personal. A good general rule to follow is, "criticize ideas, not people".



# Don't make slanderous statements or anything else that might violate someone's privacy.



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# User content cannot contain personal attacks. and that is not very nice of you.

Will you never give up twisting the facts? That, by the way, is one of the details that define a dishonest person.

I didn't call myself an environmentalist; I used the term "ecologist".

How could you possibly promote the best, environmentally sound solution if you amittedly don't know about the subject of "environmental" and "ecological" matters? There you are declaring yourself a liar.

You are the one to present technical data on your system; not me! What about data regarding outgassing, for starters?

Again you neglect to compare your "no tree chopped" system to brick and mortar. Is that a critical problem in your fabricated story about your claimed "environmental benigness"?

After probably around five times of reading my question/demand for an answer, you can't probably have overlooked it. So if you still ignore this subject, it is a clear proof that here you have something to hide. Does that sound like honesty to anybody?