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I personally believe in green and clean.Green to protect our Earth, use recycled material.Clean remove the rubbish, recycle and reuse.

Yeh.. recently come across a new material in wikipedia.org  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_reinforced_composite
The material is created via advanced composite technology combining Rice Hull / Rice Husk and Plastic bottles. into a timber like material...Rice husk... burnt away in millions of tons per year in South East Asia.Plastic Bottles... thrown in large quantity and used for recycling.

These two ingredients become the perfect ingredient for the new material known as fiber reinforced composite. Currently it is commercialized, I think that is the reason why it is in wikipedia.org... The only thing that catch my eye besides using Rice Hull and plastic is that . the Material can be recycled 20 times.   That is interesting.  Cos, the house material can be use again and again... for up to 20 times... This is unheard of...

Anyway. I contact the scientist and manage to get a container load of it for building a house. Yeh.. after using it. We realise that that the material is great for building houses.... and we build two low cost house with it.


Without using Timber... ZERO trees are cut.It is built like BUILDING with LEGO, as the materal is molded to have tongue and groove and all the color are mixed in the material before hand .... No painting needed.Yeh... Criteria for low cost housing ... The first criteria for me.

- ZERO timber usage,

- Long LASTING, and

- termite free,

- Toxic Free.

- Fast to Build 10 days or less per house and LOW COST.... preferably around 10,000 USD or less for 500 sq feet.

 

20 Jun 2008 23:31
Post 2 of 44

Among the many thoughts that came to my mind are:

- Do you have a commercial interest in this product or company? Sounds like it!

- No trees chopped down? Who cares! You either chop them down or they'll fall down by themselves as they get old. - Over-exploitation is the only problem.

- Rice hulls have been used for some time as a loose infill - successfully! So why grinding them up, grinding up the plastic, melting it all together, extruding it, etc. That all costs money and energy, besides causing contamination.

Bottomline: I'm not impressed!

21 Jun 2008 08:48
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Quoting from [germex]:

Yes, the forum he is mentioning, leads to his own website. The idea of low cost ok. I still doubt the the withstanding capacity of the structure against nature's fury like winds, storms, rains and earth quake; the last but important against burglars. At best this could be seen as a development of alternative low cost construction to be studied further.
21 Jun 2008 19:08
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Quoting from [cyber chap]:


Yes, the forum he is mentioning, leads to his own website. The idea of low cost ok. I still doubt the the withstanding capacity of the structure against nature's fury like winds, storms, rains and earth quake; the last but important against burglars. At best this could be seen as a development of alternative low cost construction to be studied further.

You are right! The "structural strength" of the material depends on the plastic. If it is recycled, it also would have to have some "softener" added. That means, it will outgas over time. Furthermore, especially in hot climates the house will start getting out of shape, sagging, etc. pretty soon, so it will be a major disaster.

I like rice husks as an insulation, but in the form of a loose infill. For that it would have to be sandwiched between two hard layers, like for example ferrocement. That would of course mean that you can't drive a nail into the wall, but otherwise it would provide terrific shelter. And as rice husks are hard to burn, they won't be a fire hazard under these confined conditions.

Another solution would be preparing a thick slurry from used paper or cardboard and shaping it like a brick, with the help of a press similar to the ones used for adobe bricks. You could provide protrusions and dimples in the shape, to make it easy to assermble a whole wall without using any mortar. You would only use mortar as a stucco, to cover the wall. That wall would be pretty similar to a normal brick or block wall.

And there are of course many more options to build a sturdy, insulating wall for next to nothing. But this strange combination of organic and inorganic material...

21 Jun 2008 20:24
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Quoting from [germex]:

Among the many thoughts that came to my mind are:

- Do you have a commercial interest in this product or company? Sounds like it!

- No trees chopped down? Who cares! You either chop them down or they'll fall down by themselves as they get old. - Over-exploitation is the only problem.

- Rice hulls have been used for some time as a loose infill - successfully! So why grinding them up, grinding up the plastic, melting it all together, extruding it, etc. That all costs money and energy, besides causing contamination.

Bottomline: I'm not impressed!






Eh... I am showing all the house that I build.. of course it has to go to my own blog. to show that. Definitely I have. cos I test the material for my own usage.





Since it is not allow to sell product in this forum. there is no selling... only showing some houses that I build. And I post becos I want to make pple aware. green and cheap timber alternative is available. and conservation and environmental friendly does not always need to be expensive.


We dont want a land fill with rubbish: http://www.squidoo.com/recycle1




No Trees are chopped down... Environmentalist like me do care alot. reduce the amount of trees to be chopped or recycling timber material is a way to reduce the amount of forest destroyed. In south East asia. all trees are chopped down for building of houses, and man made structure, therefore a CHEAP timber alternative is a good thing.






Putting Rice husk or Rice hulls as a loose infill does not bring the structural value of the material... When I see the material. I see that it is a new timber alternative that replace the use of timber at a lower cost. without destroying the forest. and clearing the rubbish at the same time. Putting Rice husk as a infill has no structural value to a building. But combining the cellulose fibre in the Rice Husk and encapsulate it via plastic material, give the material flexural strength of 280 Mpa and tensile strength of 15.9 Mpa. So unless a burglar bring a electric saw or a electric drill with him..


He arent going to cut a hole in the material... Cos when we build the houses, manual saw, or handdrill almost kill us.



Strange Phenomenon that we encounter, the more we recycle the material, the stronger that it becomes. In fact, the new material is nothing seen in the market.


Composite in the market that is made of recycled plastic will not be able to recycle again once extrude. Thus when we see this new material, we are impress by its capability to recycle 20 times, and strengthening of its tensile strength and flexural strength.






Being green, is to find a timber equivalent that replaces timber structurally, and with better feature than timber. Lots of house frame in Australia, are made from softwood timber. Of course, depending of country legistration on building, different requirement is needed for earthquake prevention, tyhoon prevention, tsumnami prevention, volcano prevention. Well, we are looking into a new material that providing cheap alternative to timber, and of course it is up to the various country authority to check on whether the new material can last against an volcano eruption.






Be green... put a little more effort into the conservation, I think that will help our Earth to be a better place to live in.





As for energy conservation. using total solar energy and wind energy to produce such material and zero contamination to the environment
22 Jun 2008 00:44
Post 6 of 44

To begin with, I mentioned FERROCEMENT, but you constantly make reference to timber! Does this imply that you would look bad if you made this comparison?

I also asked you about the embedded energy you would need to collect, store, grind, inject, etc. your stuff. Besides, what about emissions caused in the generation of this energy, plus the plastic itself?

And I could go on ranting for hours, but I guess you get the idea why I'm not impressed at all. Besides, I still believe that your blog is in reality a commercial website. Nice try though!

22 Jun 2008 10:40
Post 7 of 44
Thank you for being NOT IMPRESSED.



this makes me more determine to create more application for this new material...Betw.


 My new criteria for low cost housing.... IT MUST BE RECYCLABLE FOR 20 TIMES.



regardless whether the blog is a commercial website or not, it matters me the least.


to me, it is a awareness website. and at least the blog got into the news headline.



For Myanmar, 1/2 million pple still live without shelter. and expose to terror of nature I wonder how does a cheap construction material, that they can get from their fields and surrounding means to them.


Instead of using cheap... but imported goods, which ultimately becomes expensive.



For China, millions of pple still live without shelter. and the government mention that they need 3 years to build enough shelter to house the pple... I wonder if we should encourage the government to import cement from US or UK. and abide to numerous regulation and actually wait for 3 years before pple can be sheltered.



thanks for giving me your comments... You are a cute grandfather.

22 Jun 2008 22:26
Post 8 of 44

There is a fine line between being persistent and hard-headed...

First, now you make it pretty clear that were indeed trying to fool us and that your blog is commercial. Thanks for showing your true face!

Second, you claim that you endorse "green", but don't spend one single word about the contamination you create with your system - or how you would avoid that if there were a way.

If you really appreciate my input, show it!

23 Jun 2008 09:28
Post 9 of 44
Hi Lovely Grandfather


I thank you for your comments, cos it makes me so encouraged that I want to make a ride to Myanmar and create a fund raising campaign for building schools for the poor kids in Myanmar...


This happens, when I gotta a call from one of the alibaba friends who saw this post.

Fund Raising, and build a school, a Green School... that is made of Rice Husk and Plastic Bottles.


So Will you be the first one to donate? Off I went to create the website and create the campaign.  and then I will create the publicity needed.  Cheers for alibaba.

Cheers for all who read the post.


This will give purpose to the material...The world need environmentalist and love.


25 Jun 2008 06:07
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Properties
  • Tensile Strength ASTM D 638 15.9 MPa
  • Flexural Strength ASTM D 790 280 MPa
  • Flexural Modulus ASTM D 790 1582 MPa
  • Failure Load ASTM D 1761 1.5 KN
  • Heat Reversion BS EN 743 : 1995 0.45%
  • Water Absorption ASTM D 570 0.34%
  • Termite Resistant FRIM Test Method 3.6

Could you make a comparison of your FRC product properties (ABOVE) VS wood properties??

Please reply ASAP

AL;  V  GAXIOLA

 

  • Quoting from [francis teo]:

I personally believe in green and clean.Green to protect our Earth, use recycled material.Clean remove the rubbish, recycle and reuse.

Yeh.. recently come across a new material in wikipedia.org  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_reinforced_composite

The material is created via advanced composite technology combining Rice Hull / Rice Husk and Plastic bottles. into a timber like material...Rice husk... burnt away in millions of tons per year in South East Asia.Plastic Bottles... thrown in large quantity and used for recycling.

These two ingredients become the perfect ingredient for the new material known as fiber reinforced composite. Currently it is commercialized, I think that is the reason why it is in wikipedia.org... The only thing that catch my eye besides using Rice Hull and plastic is that . the Material can be recycled 20 times.   That is interesting.  Cos, the house material can be use again and again... for up to 20 times... This is unheard of...

Anyway. I contact the scientist and manage to get a container load of it for building a house. Yeh.. after using it. We realise that that the material is great for building houses.... and we build two low cost house with it.



Without using Timber... ZERO trees are cut.It is built like BUILDING with LEGO, as the materal is molded to have tongue and groove and all the color are mixed in the material before hand .... No painting needed.Yeh... Criteria for low cost housing ... The first criteria for me.

- ZERO timber usage,

- Long LASTING, and

- termite free,

- Toxic Free.

- Fast to Build 10 days or less per house and LOW COST.... preferably around 10,000 USD or less for 500 sq feet.

 


25 Jun 2008 10:58
Post 11 of 44
VERY INTERESTING MATERIAL. ARE YOU THINKING ON MOUNTING A LINE FOR PRODUCING TYPES OF HOMES?

Regards, Abelardo

Quoting from [francis teo]:

I personally believe in green and clean.Green to protect our Earth, use recycled material.Clean remove the rubbish, recycle and reuse.

Yeh.. recently come across a new material in wikipedia.org  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_reinforced_composite

The material is created via advanced composite technology combining Rice Hull / Rice Husk and Plastic bottles. into a timber like material...Rice husk... burnt away in millions of tons per year in South East Asia.Plastic Bottles... thrown in large quantity and used for recycling.

These two ingredients become the perfect ingredient for the new material known as fiber reinforced composite. Currently it is commercialized, I think that is the reason why it is in wikipedia.org... The only thing that catch my eye besides using Rice Hull and plastic is that . the Material can be recycled 20 times.   That is interesting.  Cos, the house material can be use again and again... for up to 20 times... This is unheard of...

Anyway. I contact the scientist and manage to get a container load of it for building a house. Yeh.. after using it. We realise that that the material is great for building houses.... and we build two low cost house with it.



Without using Timber... ZERO trees are cut.It is built like BUILDING with LEGO, as the materal is molded to have tongue and groove and all the color are mixed in the material before hand .... No painting needed.Yeh... Criteria for low cost housing ... The first criteria for me.

- ZERO timber usage,

- Long LASTING, and

- termite free,

- Toxic Free.

- Fast to Build 10 days or less per house and LOW COST.... preferably around 10,000 USD or less for 500 sq feet.

 


25 Jun 2008 13:40
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