Just a minute ago I had a chat with a friend. Among other subjects he mentioned that soon we would see quite a few lay-offs here in this industrial Mexican city. Most of them would obviously be at the level of average workers, but also some higher "ranks" will have to look for another job.

As I prefer to look at things from a positive point of view, I would like to consider this as an opportunity to give jobs to people. Problem is, right now I don't have any convincing ideas. Could anybody please offer some input?

It doesn't matter if you aren't quite sure if your idea is good. The major point is providing "food for thought". Most likely I would have to adapt your ideas to our national and local conditions anyway. So please just "chat away" and let me know what you think. - Thank you!

Quoting from [germex]:

 

Let's return to those high-end consumer products for Asia. That sounds more reasonable to me.

Maybe I have enjoy "Tequilla Pop" so much that I though it will be nice to have atequilla cocktail drink that I can store in my fridge and drink as and when I wanted or when Leosun (must get him involve now or he will " visit.

It is not an eaasy subject to discuss. I shall need more info. Maybe some kind souls here can offer some of their wise view. I will have to stop (pant, pant) for awhile, catch my breath. Ball over your court grandpa.

Quoting from [rgs_frankyeo]:

Maybe I have enjoy "Tequilla Pop" so much that I though it will be nice to have atequilla cocktail drink that I can store in my fridge and drink as and when I wanted or when Leosun (must get him involve now or he will " visit.

It is not an eaasy subject to discuss. I shall need more info. Maybe some kind souls here can offer some of their wise view. I will have to stop (pant, pant) for awhile, catch my breath. Ball over your court grandpa.

Tequila Pop? Aha, selfish interest, huh?

Well, we were waiting for Leosun's comments anyway, and hopefully some other brave souls will also add to the "cocktail" of opinions.

Quoting from [germex]:

Just a minute ago I had a chat with a friend. Among other subjects he mentioned that soon we would see quite a few lay-offs here in this industrial Mexican city. Most of them would obviously be at the level of average workers, but also some higher "ranks" will have to look for another job.

As I prefer to look at things from a positive point of view, I would like to consider this as an opportunity to give jobs to people. Problem is, right now I don't have any convincing ideas. Could anybody please offer some input?

It doesn't matter if you aren't quite sure if your idea is good. The major point is providing "food for thought". Most likely I would have to adapt your ideas to our national and local conditions anyway. So please just "chat away" and let me know what you think. - Thank you!

Dear Grandpa,

I have looked through your chain of letters to date - and I am not sure how much help I could be - but I do like your train of thought. You mentioned aquaculture in one of your notes. Assuming there was sufficient water in the desert region you say your are in - the next question would be what product to grow? I suppose what product could you grow would also help eliminate the variables. Man power would be required to set this up, providing employment immediatly. If the product had a ready market, then a investor may well be willing to provide the resouces needed to get from breaking ground to the first bank deposit. Am I on the same page as you on this above text? If so I could look further in to this.

Kind regards.... Andy

Quoting from [African Chief]:

Dear Grandpa,

I have looked through your chain of letters to date - and I am not sure how much help I could be - but I do like your train of thought. You mentioned aquaculture in one of your notes. Assuming there was sufficient water in the desert region you say your are in - the next question would be what product to grow? I suppose what product could you grow would also help eliminate the variables. Man power would be required to set this up, providing employment immediatly. If the product had a ready market, then a investor may well be willing to provide the resouces needed to get from breaking ground to the first bank deposit. Am I on the same page as you on this above text? If so I could look further in to this.

Kind regards.... Andy

Hi Andy,

Thanks for your input! Well, aquaculture is of course a very ample concept. It could be anything from snails and mussles to big fish. We could even create "fake" seawater. It has been done successfully, and you know that typically sea fish has a better taste and higher price.

Water isn't really abundant here, but land is so cheap in certain areas that it makes sense to store water from those few but torrential rains we have in summer, to replenish whatever is lost. Ok, I must add that I'm considering greenhouses, to keep out dust and contamination, while keeping most of the water (humidity) in.

Something I was contemplating in this "plan" is cultivating at least a good part of the fish feed. Some people have successfully added an extra daphnia pond. There they reproduce at an incredible speed, due to the absence of natural predators. Another option would be hydroponics for fish feed (or the combination "aquaponics"), and last of all I was thinking in raising certain larvae and worms on organic wastes. They make an extraordinary feed for carnivore and omnivore fish (and chicken).

As you pointed out, all this would indeed lead to highly skilled and well paid jobs, and that is what I'm looking for. Only that if I wanted to solve the whole unemployment problem with these jobs, it would have to be a humongous installation. So this could only be part of the solution, but a good one.

As you can see, this doesn't address all your concerns, but in a way this is intentional. It opens the door to further discussion, eventually narrowing down to the point.

Quoting from [germex]:

Just a minute ago I had a chat with a friend. Among other subjects he mentioned that soon we would see quite a few lay-offs here in this industrial Mexican city. Most of them would obviously be at the level of average workers, but also some higher "ranks" will have to look for another job.

As I prefer to look at things from a positive point of view, I would like to consider this as an opportunity to give jobs to people. Problem is, right now I don't have any convincing ideas. Could anybody please offer some input?

It doesn't matter if you aren't quite sure if your idea is good. The major point is providing "food for thought". Most likely I would have to adapt your ideas to our national and local conditions anyway. So please just "chat away" and let me know what you think. - Thank you!

Quoting from [boneybo]:

Quoting from [germex]:

Just a minute ago I had a chat with a friend. Among other subjects he mentioned that soon we would see quite a few lay-offs here in this industrial Mexican city. Most of them would obviously be at the level of average workers, but also some higher "ranks" will have to look for another job.

As I prefer to look at things from a positive point of view, I would like to consider this as an opportunity to give jobs to people. Problem is, right now I don't have any convincing ideas. Could anybody please offer some input?

It doesn't matter if you aren't quite sure if your idea is good. The major point is providing "food for thought". Most likely I would have to adapt your ideas to our national and local conditions anyway. So please just "chat away" and let me know what you think. - Thank you!

Grandpa, I still collecting the concerned info for the moment. But I would like to start the discussion here with you.

today is very much caring the food-self-supply by herself. But also she is encourage Chinese companies to invest oversea for food production, like buying the land or by rental to have the agriculture and fishery production . So co-operations between the two countries to promote the closer relationship for some sorts of assistance together. It does not need to go to the high levels of contact , but starting from a city or regional/province contact first, and check what to do together about the land you have and the farmers in your place can be benefited in some ways.

Or put it in this way, export your products directly to and promote them together. Sure there are lots of agricultural products you can export to by enlarging the volumes and do some Trade fair to introduce the Mexican foods and drink, there are too much to do.

Moreover, tourist industry is one of the main punch you need to hit; Chinese people are now crazy for oversea touring, so many stuffs in your country can offer and re-packing again to attract the tourists all over the world. You just need to re-fine the contents and details and assist your local tourist companies or associations to work it out. Even desert can be a good place to tour around, like sand games, riding the camels and vehicles in the sand and so on. Gifts and local speciality to help the factories' production and development in designs, packing and manufacturing as well.

Introduction of Mexican music and dances to the world, these are the cultures that can be exchanged and promoted.

So please have  a glance here, and I will come back to you once the information collections complete.

It really impresses me that somebody who lives so far away from Mexico (you - in China) has a much better understanding of our situation that many of my fellow Mexican citizens and even politicians.

There are indeed many things we should promote, like tourism. Many people have insisted on that, but we still have to see good support by our government. The infrastructure for many of our tourist attraction is lousy. Only a few beaches receive some attention.

Regarding food, the situation is the same. For example, real vanilla is native to Mexico. Did you know? Most people don't, because it's not promoted. Or, as I mentioned a few times, here in the desert I can get real cheap land for food production in greenhouses. If we harvest the total yearly rainfall over that land, it would be more than sufficient to sustain the cultures. That could be produce, as well as pigs, chickens, fish, etc. We have a huge local and quasi-local market for that, and could of course export value-added produce.

For that, those Chinese investors would "come in handy", only that I don't know how to either develop a convincing project (lack of time and money) or catch their attention without it. That would be much easier to do locally, only that we still have a lot of that old, traditional lack of vision among those who have the money.

I personally feel like food production is the way to go, from the point of view of expected results. But it might be easier to design and manufacture high-end comsumer products for the growing Asian market, when it comes to dealing with local investors. That's in fact one of the reasons I would prefer to deal with certain foreign investors.

Hope you find more interesting stuff!

Quoting from [germex]:

It really impresses me that somebody who lives so far away from Mexico (you - in China) has a much better understanding of our situation that many of my fellow Mexican citizens and even politicians.

There are indeed many things we should promote, like tourism. Many people have insisted on that, but we still have to see good support by our government. The infrastructure for many of our tourist attraction is lousy. Only a few beaches receive some attention.

Regarding food, the situation is the same. For example, real vanilla is native to Mexico. Did you know? Most people don't, because it's not promoted. Or, as I mentioned a few times, here in the desert I can get real cheap land for food production in greenhouses. If we harvest the total yearly rainfall over that land, it would be more than sufficient to sustain the cultures. That could be produce, as well as pigs, chickens, fish, etc. We have a huge local and quasi-local market for that, and could of course export value-added produce.

For that, those Chinese investors would "come in handy", only that I don't know how to either develop a convincing project (lack of time and money) or catch their attention without it. That would be much easier to do locally, only that we still have a lot of that old, traditional lack of vision among those who have the money.

I personally feel like food production is the way to go, from the point of view of expected results. But it might be easier to design and manufacture high-end comsumer products for the growing Asian market, when it comes to dealing with local investors. That's in fact one of the reasons I would prefer to deal with certain foreign investors.

Hope you find more interesting stuff!

Quoting from [Leosun]:Please see my new post in this forum for more about Mexico as i am unable to solve the problem here that always to response by telling me my reply: more than 4000 characters!

Quoting from [germex]:

Quoting from [Leosun]:Please see my new post in this forum for more about Mexico as i am unable to solve the problem here that always to response by telling me my reply: more than 4000 characters!

Posting here is a pain in the rear, using TM is a pain in the rear... We really need to make contact via e-mail.