good guy , you are so carful and experienced, tks for sharing
Quoting from [Business in China]:Quoting from [Life]:
This is my first year as a member of Alibaba.com. I have responded to most trade alerts pertaining to my particular product. However, on two occasions I was contacted by two prospective buyers; one from Benin and the other from Lome, Togo respectively. They sounded like serious buyers, very professional and knowledgeable about their market. They were very impressed with the price and the product. They requested Pro-Forma invoices outlining CIF and payment terms. Note carefully; the payment terms were T/T 50% down and balance due prior to shipping. Both buyers signed pro-forma and sent back saying they will pay T/T 100%. (1st reason to suspect a scam) However, one buyer told me the Product will need NAFDAC certification and the seller will have to pay for it, before his bank can release the funds. (2nd reason to suspect a scam). The other
One of my Chinese friends also met a similar situation before. It is said that Benin and Nigerial has the most scams in Africa. Take care, every body!
It's a sad day when legit business people can't go to a forum and be able to conduct business on good faith without having to be worried. I am very new to this site, not even a month yet. My first transaction has turned out to be a huge disappointment. I thought that if I stuck to suppliers who were either "Gold" or "Trust" that these people had earned that designation and could be trusted.
I entered into a business agreement with someone with that designation and have NOT heard one thing from this person. Needless to say this who experience has totally left me with NOT wanting to do business with anyone on this site due to this one person. All I wanted were two blackberry units, all I end up with is being out of pocket and totally untrusting.
My only hope is that the Dispute process here is going to result in something being done and if not I intend to spread all the details I have of this person everywhere...including his ip address (assuming that is real) and anything else I can find on him.
I am very angry about this.
Quoting from[Life]:
This is my first year as a member of Alibaba.com. I have responded to most trade alerts pertaining to my particular product. However, on two occasions I was contacted by two prospective buyers; one from Benin and the other from Lome, Togo respectively. They sounded like serious buyers, very professional and knowledgeable about their market. They were very impressed with the price and the product. They requested Pro-Forma invoices outlining CIF and payment terms. Note carefully; the payment terms were T/T 50% down and balance due prior to shipping. Both buyers signed pro-forma and sent back saying they will pay T/T 100%. (1st reason to suspect a scam) However, one buyer told me the Product will need NAFDAC certification and the seller will have to pay for it, before his bank can release the funds. (2nd reason to suspect a scam). The other
NAFDAC certificates are required in Nigeria for regulated products (just like the FDA approval in the US). However, it is the responsibility of the importer (buyer) to procure this certificate locally and no seller should have to pay a dime for this. The seller is however required to provide documentations (like certificate of analysis) that will enable the buyer register the products and procure the certificate before the goods can be sold in the local market.
Generally, I would never agree to paying any money to a buyer for whatever purpose. Sellers send products while buyers send money or has the rule changed?
Quoting from [Business in China]:Quoting from [Life]:
This is my first year as a member of Alibaba.com. I have responded to most trade alerts pertaining to my particular product. However, on two occasions I was contacted by two prospective buyers; one from Benin and the other from Lome, Togo respectively. They sounded like serious buyers, very professional and knowledgeable about their market. They were very impressed with the price and the product. They requested Pro-Forma invoices outlining CIF and payment terms. Note carefully; the payment terms were T/T 50% down and balance due prior to shipping. Both buyers signed pro-forma and sent back saying they will pay T/T 100%. (1st reason to suspect a scam) However, one buyer told me the Product will need NAFDAC certification and the seller will have to pay for it, before his bank can release the funds. (2nd reason to suspect a scam). The other
One of my Chinese friends also met a similar situation before. It is said that Benin and Nigerial has the most scams in Africa. Take care, every body!
Hi, I'm new to this, and I hear you all. I also received an email from Douala Cameroon. has anyone ever had dealings with a company named Ets Fibre Roi? How do i go abouts investigating their legitimacy? They also said that I would be paid through T/T 100%. And after I was awarded a government contract and monies received on my part I should pay them 2% of the invoice for the lead. Does this sound fishy to anyone? What should I look out for?
Any tips for the Newbie?
Thanks for listening.
Jorge Robledo- Robleczyk Trading Co.
P.S What's wrong with being an Agent?
Our company are specializing in manufacturing grinding wheels,hangers and sewing machine. if you are interet our product. please contact us. www.qytrading.com
Quoting from [Angel Jiang]:Thank you for this information. It is good to know that there are good honest chinese suppliers.
I am a first time buyer of from a hong kong supplier by the name of:
HK Youngchangshun LTD. who are Gold Suppliers and Trust pass holders with Alibaba.
I requested a sample of an HP touchscreen PC IQ506 and they forwarded me a pro forma invoice for the 1 sample including shipping. Pricing is good. However the payment terms are 50% T/T in advance and 50% after I recieve the sample.
Is this a legitimate deal?
Quoting from [Life]:
This is my first year as a member of Alibaba.com. I have responded to most trade
I just met similar defraud last week. A buyer from the US inquired about PVC blisters; I quoted a high price as per his sample as the order qtty is only 30000pcs; and the payment Terms is T/T 50% down and balance due prior to shipping with tooling cost 100% prepaid.. He accepted both price and payment terms immediately; and asked me to send him Proforma Invoice so that he could arrange payment. After I sent him Proforma Invoice, he told me there would be a strike at the Oakland Port and warned me we must deliver the goods before June 13th., which means we only have 2 days for production. I told him that's beyond our ability to deliver the goods within such short time; he responded as "you could just arrange production and wait my notation to deliver the goods". I think it's good way for both of the 2 sides, yet, we still need him to issue the PO and arrange prepayment. Hearing that, he did not answer me. 2 days later, he asked me to arrange production immediately and he would transfer the payment the next day. I said, it's ok, we can wait for 1 more day as we have materials on hand. No money entered our account at all. I asked but got no answer. Then he suddenly asked me to contact with his shipping agent in Shanghai to arrange shipment(sounds like a joke, huh?). I was so surprised and funny. I asked him: What for? We have no PO, no prepayment, no production... Then he got madly angry, blaming me as an "idiot" and told me I had much to learn. Hearing these dirty words, I just felt funny as it's such obvious defraud he's made. I told him, if I were not "idiot", I will help him to become a scammer. He got more angry, and shouted on the phone that "I would pay, yet I just need you to deliver the goods at the moment". See, no strike any more?? Wow, it's interesting. I'm sorry for poor old Jim.
Some scammers take advantages of Chinese suppliers' desirousness to develop new clients and markets, pretending to be very much mighty and insistent. No, they look down on Chinese suppliers but they're wrong. We're cautious as they are!
Quoting from [kdcelectronicsinternational]:The below situation sounds legitimate enough. Do your due diligence and trust your instinct.
Thank you for this information. It is good to know that there are good honest chinese suppliers.
I am a first time buyer of from a hong kong supplier by the name of:
HK Youngchangshun LTD. who are Gold Suppliers and Trust pass holders with Alibaba.
I requested a sample of an HP touchscreen PC IQ506 and they forwarded me a pro forma invoice for the 1 sample including shipping. Pricing is good. However the payment terms are 50% T/T in advance and 50% after I recieve the sample.
Is this a legitimate deal?
Quoting from [Life]:
This is my first year as a member of Alibaba.com. I have responded to most trade
Quoting from [michaeltaller]:Quoting from [grigo]:Replying To [Life]:I take my hat off to you.
You certainly were cautious enough and checked things out, otherwise these scammers would have taken you for everything they could have taken you.
Let this be a Warning to everyone else out there, and make SURE you do your Due Diligence BEFORE parting with your money, especially via Western Union.
I have stuck this topic to the top and recommended it as very well worth reading.
Hello,How do I make a complaint against a Gold Supplier for stealing my Money?
Fraud, Etc..The company name is:
(name of the thief)
Helen YuanEverest Digital Technology Co., Ltd.
Gold Supplier in Alibaba
http://Everest.En.Alibaba.comhttp://Everest.En.Alibaba.com
They stole $940.00 from me for samples, by sending me crap I did not order. She claims the shipping company sent the wrong order, yeah and I'm really stupid.
When I asked her to take back the phones, she insisted I sell them to get my money back. The are not worth $400.00 retail, a real stupid scam.But she cheated me. After a lot of complaining and sending about 300 annoying emails to her, she wants me to send the crap back to her, which leaves me with zero. I would not trust sending her nothing.
If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It is amazing how many scammers are on Alibaba. Real sad.
Can I post the complaint against them on your site or theirs.
Thank You,
Michael
hi,Michael,
I`m sorry to hear that! You should be care when you do with anything!
Nowadays,the scammers become more and more crafty.
I think I am about to get cheat by buyer from Togo , Lome .I can just feel it - they wants me send sample for free in order to get their big order like 20 foot container !
What do you guy think ?