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Beware of these buyers! - How a member NEARLY got scammed
Post 22 of 61
Quoting from [michaeltaller]:

Quoting from [grigo]:

Replying To  [Life]:

I take my hat off to you.



You certainly were cautious enough and checked things out, otherwise these scammers would have taken you for everything they could have taken you.



Let this be a Warning to everyone else out there, and make SURE you do your Due Diligence BEFORE parting with your money, especially via Western Union.



I have stuck this topic to the  top and recommended it as very well worth reading.




Hello,

How do I make a complaint against a Gold Supplier for stealing my Money?


Fraud, Etc..

 The company name is:


(name of the thief)


   Helen Yuan

Everest Digital Technology Co., Ltd.

Gold Supplier in Alibaba


 

http://Everest.En.Alibaba.com

http://Everest.En.Alibaba.com

 They stole $940.00 from me for samples, by sending me crap I did not order. She claims the shipping company sent the wrong order, yeah and I'm really stupid.


When I asked her to take back the phones, she insisted I sell them to get my money back. The are not worth $400.00 retail, a real stupid scam.

But she cheated me. After a lot of complaining and sending about 300 annoying emails to her, she wants me to  send the crap back to her, which leaves me with zero. I would not trust sending her nothing.

If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It is amazing how many scammers are on Alibaba. Real sad.

 

Can I post the complaint against them on your site or theirs.

Thank You,


Michael



Hello Michael,

        I am so sorry to hear that,it's really a shame!But we have to admit the cheating and scammers are everywhere,just be a littlele more careful next time,friend!

William

08 Jul 2008 21:00
Post 23 of 61
Quoting from [Life]:



I am a newbie in Alibaba too,it's useful,thank you![em21]
08 Jul 2008 21:04
Post 24 of 61

Thanks for your kindly advice, your story is very useful for me. And I remembered some important tricks used by scammers, and taked them as a warn in my bussiness.[em1] 

09 Jul 2008 00:49
Post 25 of 61
hbbeymegistu
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Hello friend, I often asked how to avoid buying counterfeit items on the Net.


Here are 7 tips to avoid getting taken:


* Don't ever buy an item that you learn about via bulk email ("spam"). Your chances of receiving the item *at all* are only 45%, and the chance of your getting what you think at a reasonable price (so you're happy with the transaction) is less than 5%. In other words, as Jim likes to say, "If it's spam, it's scam."


 * Always use a credit card to purchase online. This protects you. Your maximum exposure is $50, and often you won't even lose that amount if you get scammed.


* If you are buying something at a reputable online auction site, always check out the references for the seller and only buy from sellers who have good references. And take advantage of online auction guarantees, such as those offered by amazon.com.


* Don't conduct business with an anonymous user. Get the person's real name, business name (if applicable), address, and phone number. Verify this information before buying. And don't send your payment to a post office box.


* Be more cautious if the seller uses a free email service, such as hotmail, yahoo, etc. Of course, most people who use these free services are honest. However, most problems occur when a free service is used. After all, with a free email service, it is very easy for the seller to keep his or her real identity and information hidden.


* Save copies of all of the emails and other documents involved in the transaction. Then, if you discover that an item is counterfeit, you have documentation to help you deal with the problem.


* Use common sense and trust your intuition. If you have a funny feeling about an item, don't buy it. You're very likely right that it is counterfeit.


I hope this article will go a long way to help.
16 Jul 2008 00:38
Post 26 of 61

If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It is amazing how many scammers are on Alibaba. Real sad.

Can I post the complaint against them on your site or theirs.

Thank You,


Michael



We have initiated an >>Avoid<< list on our site, where we warn against specific "companies" and fraudulent traders.

We welcome additions to the list, as long as the case is presented thoroughly.

Best,

Flemming

22 Jul 2008 08:30
Post 27 of 61
Dear Everyone,

The link below is useful for you, please visit and learn more about Benin/Africa Exporter Scam.

http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1666

I was the one who nearly got scam by them too!!!http://img.alibaba.com/images/eng/style/icon/emoticons_angry.gif
22 Aug 2008 19:14
Post 28 of 61

Thanks for sharing!

Yes, I met some fake customers whom from Nigeria and Bahrain.

But we didn't sent out any of our goods.

Please be careful!

Anne [em1]

22 Aug 2008 20:23
Post 29 of 61
DEFAME
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Quoting from [michaeltaller]:

Quoting from [grigo]:

Replying To  [Life]:

I take my hat off to you.



You certainly were cautious enough and checked things out, otherwise these scammers would have taken you for everything they could have taken you.



Let this be a Warning to everyone else out there, and make SURE you do your Due Diligence BEFORE parting with your money, especially via Western Union.



I have stuck this topic to the  top and recommended it as very well worth reading.




Hello,

How do I make a complaint against a Gold Supplier for stealing my Money?


Fraud, Etc..

 The company name is:


(name of the thief)


   Helen Yuan

Everest Digital Technology Co., Ltd.

Gold Supplier in Alibaba


 

http://Everest.En.Alibaba.com

http://Everest.En.Alibaba.com

 They stole $940.00 from me for samples, by sending me crap I did not order. She claims the shipping company sent the wrong order, yeah and I'm really stupid.


When I asked her to take back the phones, she insisted I sell them to get my money back. The are not worth $400.00 retail, a real stupid scam.

But she cheated me. After a lot of complaining and sending about 300 annoying emails to her, she wants me to  send the crap back to her, which leaves me with zero. I would not trust sending her nothing.

If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. It is amazing how many scammers are on Alibaba. Real sad.

 

Can I post the complaint against them on your site or theirs.

Thank You,


Michael



Hello Michael

 

[em6]

I think we should reply you now!!!   Firstly . I need to declare that Michael he didn't send us 940USD. We have the copy of west union.  And we arranged the products totally cost 800USD.  What he said is not ture !!!!!!!!!!!!!  DEFAME !!!!!!!!

Welcome to contact us. We are glad to explain it and offer more information.

Contact Person: Miss Zheng

Email:sales04@everestcn.net

Tel: (+86)755-83982198

Fax: (+86)755-83012846

Mobile: 0086 13510482418

Msn:
cookie525_5@hotmail.com

TradeManager: cn200012228

 

22 Aug 2008 20:46
Post 30 of 61

we also had the same type of experince from Benin regarding frozen beef  imports, they wanted to sign contract for atleast millions of dollars but he wanted us to pay the lawyer fees for thr importation into benin,

We told him that we will pay, all you have to do is to go to our embassy in Benin and they will pay you cash in U.S Dollars, but that customer got angry and he said we do not want to involved diplomats in trading.

In short in future also, for sending samples we must charge them for the frieght cost, to check that buyer really interested in our product. if he pays for the frieght charges and for thr future order we shall refund those charges.

All the best for ALIBABA MEMBERS, Please do take care!!!!

 

 

Quoting from [Life]:


This is my first year as a member of Alibaba.com. I have responded to most trade alerts pertaining to my particular product. However, on two occasions I was contacted by two prospective buyers; one from Benin and the other from Lome, Togo respectively. They sounded like serious buyers, very professional and knowledgeable about their market. They were very impressed with the price and the product. They requested Pro-Forma invoices outlining CIF and payment terms. Note carefully; the payment terms were T/T 50% down and balance due prior to shipping. Both buyers signed pro-forma and sent back saying they will pay T/T 100%. (1st reason to suspect a scam) However, one buyer told me the Product will need NAFDAC certification and the seller will have to pay for it, before his bank can release the funds. (2nd reason to suspect a scam). The other buyer requested a copy of our business registration before his bank can release funds; which I sent to them. Then, someone from the bank contacted me saying that I will need to get the copy of certificate legalized and gave instructions to contact a specific lawyer to get this done. (3rd reason to supsect a scam). I contacted this person, who then informed me that I will have to Western Union US$600 immediately. I informed the buyer that it would be best if he took care of all expenses in his country and my company will process his order as soon as funds are received for the goods. He insisted that I will have to pay, so I asked him to send a copy of his business certificate and his personal identification. He sent me a copy of his Passport. I have not seen many forgeries in my life time, but this was the worst fake ID I had ever seen, a baby could tell its a fake. I halted correspondence to this buyer right away and forwarded the emails to fraudwatchers.org. I was still communicating with the other buyer who was from Benin. I told him I could supply samples and water analysis report to him,however he will have to pay to get the certificate. He agreed. He told me about a lawyer who could get the certificate in two days. The lawyer contacted me and requested samples and gifts.(?) I sent the samples and gifts to the buyer who supposedly passed on to the lawyer. The buyer later informed me that the lawyer was charging $2500 to get the certificate and he only had $1500, so he was asking me to pay the balance of $800 which was due after the lawyer received it. I started doing some research,

25 Aug 2008 03:19
Post 31 of 61
tony8158
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Thank you of remind![em1]
25 Aug 2008 19:18
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