HI
WE ALL KNOW THAT RUSSIA IS THE CAPITAL OF FRAUDS AND SCAMS IN THE WORLD.
I WORK IN THE OIL TRADING AND I HAVE COME ACROSS A GUY A SAID THAT HE IS ONE THE AGENTS FOR PROM INVEST WHICH A SELLER OF ROSNEFT. IHAVE SEND THE GUY SOME ICPO 'S AND I ASKED HIM FOR FCO HE ALWAYS DO FOR ME AND HE NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PRICE HE MANAGE TO GET ME FCO'S ALWAYS . IN HIS FCO HE ASKS THE CUSTOMER FOR INTIAL PAYEMENT AFTER HE GETS SOFT POP CLAIMING THAT 'S FOR PIPLINE FEES AND ALL THAT. HE HAD SHOWN ME A MANDATE GAREEMNT FROM THE SELLER WHO HE REPRESENT. I AM WONDERING WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO CHECK IF THE GUY IS RAELLY AN AGENT FOR THE SELLER AND IF THE SELLER IS REALLY A SELLER FOR ROSNEFT!!! AS YOU KNOW ALL KIND OF FRAUDS AND SCAMS
CAN HAPPEN IN RUSSIA SO WHAT THE BEST WAY TI CHECK IT . AND ANOTHER THING IS THE SELLER WHO ASKS FOR COMMITEMEMNT TO PAY INTIAL PAYEMENT FOR PIPELINE FEES AND OTHERS OR THE SELLER WHO USE ESCROW AGENT IN HIS PROCEDURE IS A GENEUINE SELLER OR NOT.
Quoting from [mohamedbenamara]:.... . IN HIS FCO HE ASKS THE CUSTOMER FOR INTIAL PAYEMENT AFTER HE GETS SOFT POP CLAIMING THAT 'S FOR PIPLINE FEES AND ALL THAT. HE HAD SHOWN ME A MANDATE GAREEMNT FROM THE SELLER WHO HE REPRESENT.
Don't pay anything especially for pipeline fees, or upfront fees or anything fees they claim. You will not see you cargo and also you will lost your money.
Read this carefully :
I AM WONDERING WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO CHECK IF THE GUY IS RAELLY AN AGENT FOR THE SELLER AND IF THE SELLER IS REALLY A SELLER FOR ROSNEFT!!! AS YOU KNOW ALL KIND OF FRAUDS AND SCAMS
Try contact your ambasador office in Russia and ask them to verifiy that person and company their represent.
CAN HAPPEN IN RUSSIA SO WHAT THE BEST WAY TI CHECK IT . AND ANOTHER THING IS THE SELLER WHO ASKS FOR COMMITEMEMNT TO PAY INTIAL PAYEMENT FOR PIPELINE FEES AND OTHERS OR THE SELLER WHO USE ESCROW AGENT IN HIS PROCEDURE IS A GENEUINE SELLER OR NOT.
SCAM.
Do not pay any money upfront! if some one ask for any fees upfront do not contact him again.
I am connected to real seller I can fly with you to his office and if you can proof that you are real buyer we can setup delivery in 3 days
contact me at email: trade@apppolonia.com
Quoting from [mohamedbenamara]:HI
WE ALL KNOW THAT RUSSIA IS THE CAPITAL OF FRAUDS AND SCAMS IN THE WORLD.
I WORK IN THE OIL TRADING AND I HAVE COME ACROSS A GUY A SAID THAT HE IS ONE THE AGENTS FOR PROM INVEST WHICH A SELLER OF ROSNEFT. IHAVE SEND THE GUY SOME ICPO 'S AND I ASKED HIM FOR FCO HE ALWAYS DO FOR ME AND HE NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PRICE HE MANAGE TO GET ME FCO'S ALWAYS . IN HIS FCO HE ASKS THE CUSTOMER FOR INTIAL PAYEMENT AFTER HE GETS SOFT POP CLAIMING THAT 'S FOR PIPLINE FEES AND ALL THAT. HE HAD SHOWN ME A MANDATE GAREEMNT FROM THE SELLER WHO HE REPRESENT. I AM WONDERING WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO CHECK IF THE GUY IS RAELLY AN AGENT FOR THE SELLER AND IF THE SELLER IS REALLY A SELLER FOR ROSNEFT!!! AS YOU KNOW ALL KIND OF FRAUDS AND SCAMS
CAN HAPPEN IN RUSSIA SO WHAT THE BEST WAY TI CHECK IT . AND ANOTHER THING IS THE SELLER WHO ASKS FOR COMMITEMEMNT TO PAY INTIAL PAYEMENT FOR PIPELINE FEES AND OTHERS OR THE SELLER WHO USE ESCROW AGENT IN HIS PROCEDURE IS A GENEUINE SELLER OR NOT.
Quoting from [mohamedbenamara]:
The only way way is to get along with him and his colleagues in person amd make several tests for his credits.........................
jin.ok@msa.hinet.net
"WE ALL KNOW THAT RUSSIA IS THE CAPITAL OF FRAUDS AND SCAMS IN THE WORLD" - who are we? Anyway, if you are trying to get oil below market price, if you are so stupid as to attempt arranging an oil or gas related transaction through the Internet, with people you've never seen, in a country you don't understand and which langauge you do not speak, you are a dork, an incredibly foolish person and at the very least you deserve to be defrauded. Worst, if the venue you are pursuing is the alibaba.com, meaning if you are trying to set up an energy deal through Alibaba.com, then you are a fool squared and you deserve to be defrauded as well, though considering the extent of almost unbelievable breathtaking foolishness (judging by the nature of your "complaints") I doubt you've got any money to be defrauded of (hence in that respect you are pretty safe). Finally, from the standpoint of ethics, if you feel that Russia or whatever place is the "capital of scams" as you put it then why are you bitching about suspicion of foul play - that must be natural! - and why the * are you trying to buy something from that place? This is more than a paradox. In any case, with this sort of attitude you deserve to be defrauded but again that's improbable for the reason described in the previous sentence.
Quoting from [ebayski]:I understand that you are from russia so you felt that you are offended and you want it to attcke me . you reply to my subject it toatally inpolite and inapprapriate and shows that you are really a russian!! to tell you something I am not trying to arrnge a deal thryu alibaba and stupid * russian scamba have deceive me or fruaded me I am not stupid and I know oil deals cannot be arranged thru the internet the people that I work with are real and they have delt with a lot of russian scambags matter fact they have experinece in them now. so admit the truth about your country and your people at least EVRYONE KNOWS THAT IS VERY CORRUPTED AND SCAMBAGS COUNTRY
"WE ALL KNOW THAT RUSSIA IS THE CAPITAL OF FRAUDS AND SCAMS IN THE WORLD" - who are we? Anyway, if you are trying to get oil below market price, if you are so stupid as to attempt arranging an oil or gas related transaction through the Internet, with people you've never seen, in a country you don't understand and which langauge you do not speak, you are a dork, an incredibly foolish person and at the very least you deserve to be defrauded. Worst, if the venue you are pursuing is the alibaba.com, meaning if you are trying to set up an energy deal through Alibaba.com, then you are a fool squared and you deserve to be defrauded as well, though considering the extent of almost unbelievable breathtaking foolishness (judging by the nature of your "complaints") I doubt you've got any money to be defrauded of (hence in that respect you are pretty safe). Finally, from the standpoint of ethics, if you feel that Russia or whatever place is the "capital of scams" as you put it then why are you bitching about suspicion of foul play - that must be natural! - and why the * are you trying to buy something from that place? This is more than a paradox. In any case, with this sort of attitude you deserve to be defrauded but again that's improbable for the reason described in the previous sentence.
Quoting from [mohamedbenamara]:Quoting from [ebayski]:I understand that you are from russia so you felt that you are offended and you want it to attcke me . you reply to my subject it toatally inpolite and inapprapriate and shows that you are really a russian!! to tell you something I am not trying to arrnge a deal thryu alibaba and stupid * russian scamba have deceive me or fruaded me I am not stupid and I know oil deals cannot be arranged thru the internet the people that I work with are real and they have delt with a lot of russian scambags matter fact they have experinece in them now. so admit the truth about your country and your people at least EVRYONE KNOWS THAT IS VERY CORRUPTED AND SCAMBAGS COUNTRY
"WE ALL KNOW THAT RUSSIA IS THE CAPITAL OF FRAUDS AND SCAMS IN THE WORLD" - who are we? Anyway, if you are trying to get oil below market price, if you are so stupid as to attempt arranging an oil or gas related transaction through the Internet, with people you've never seen, in a country you don't understand and which langauge you do not speak, you are a dork, an incredibly foolish person and at the very least you deserve to be defrauded. Worst, if the venue you are pursuing is the alibaba.com, meaning if you are trying to set up an energy deal through Alibaba.com, then you are a fool squared and you deserve to be defrauded as well, though considering the extent of almost unbelievable breathtaking foolishness (judging by the nature of your "complaints") I doubt you've got any money to be defrauded of (hence in that respect you are pretty safe). Finally, from the standpoint of ethics, if you feel that Russia or whatever place is the "capital of scams" as you put it then why are you bitching about suspicion of foul play - that must be natural! - and why the * are you trying to buy something from that place? This is more than a paradox. In any case, with this sort of attitude you deserve to be defrauded but again that's improbable for the reason described in the previous sentence.
And everyone knows that only bears life in russia.
ha-ha.
Well you dont know this country.
Quoting from [stats]:
And everyone knows that only bears life in russia.
ha-ha.
Well you dont know this country.
Yeah.. exactly.. Also You forgot about Vodka, Balalajka, Matreshka :))))))))))))))))))))))
Damn, how I hate such people who think that they are so "white and fluffy" meantime everybody is crap... Read my posts near in "RUSSIAN OIL SCAMS: Transneft fee scam from fake Russian Oil Sellers" topic and You`ll find my point of view on such "traders".
Such people who are still believe in cheap products from Russia have to blame yourselves only because they believe.
Sincerely,
Anatoly Tamilin
VIVALDO SA
