we are one of the leading e-bike mfg. co. in pondicherry, INDIA. we have send 22000 usd last year to import the spare parts from CHINA based CHITUMA E-BIKE co. co. manager MS. DONNA , has commited us to send the material on time within 15 days, but after sending the money she said , there is lots of space in container so we have to send another more money, we have send that also, after that she told the doller price down we are in lossed, so she have demanded 7000usd more, i told its not possible, we have no more profits like that, and after six month i have send many mailed then she replied, she can send the material but only 50% material, and she told , our co. want to cut 10,000 usd because we have not taken material on time, we totally shocked....i have all corresspondent about this with her...now can some body help me to recover our money from that cheating co. CHITUMA AND MANAGER DONNA.

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:

When I read your former topic, from October 2007 where you are a small company, all workers suffering and 5 month no work :

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/213636/save_our_life_HONGDOU_CHITUMA_E_BIKE_CO_FRAUD_WITH_US_.htm


and count all together, it is now one year ago that you paid them, but your sales must have exploded since October !


But now as a rich company with new created website for one year in December 2007, Number of Employees: 51 - 100 People,  GOVERNMENT SUPPLIER and a registered Capital: US$2.5 Million - US$5 Million, you should be able to engage a Laywer to claim for you this small scam of  21,000 US$ !


Wilhelm

Quoting from [wilhelm]:


When I read your former topic, from October 2007 where you are a small company, all workers suffering and 5 month no work :

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/213636/save_our_life_HONGDOU_CHITUMA_E_BIKE_CO_FRAUD_WITH_US_.htm



and count all together, it is now one year ago that you paid them, but your sales must have exploded since October !



But now as a rich company with new created website for one year in December 2007, Number of Employees: 51 - 100 People, GOVERNMENT SUPPLIER and a registered Capital: US$2.5 Million - US$5 Million, you should be able to engage a Laywer to claim for you this small scam of 21,000 US$ !



Wilhelm

Wow!!!! You really dig deep graves to find out the reality. A FBI/CIA agent could not have done a better job .

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:


we are one of the leading e-bike mfg. co. in pondicherry, INDIA. we have send 22000 usd last year to import the spare parts from CHINA based CHITUMA E-BIKE co. co. manager MS. DONNA , has commited us to send the material on time within 15 days, but after sending the money she said , there is lots of space in container so we have to send another more money, we have send that also, after that she told the doller price down we are in lossed, so she have demanded 7000usd more, i told its not possible, we have no more profits like that, and after six month i have send many mailed then she replied, she can send the material but only 50% material, and she told , our co. want to cut 10,000 usd because we have not taken material on time, we totally shocked....i have all corresspondent about this with her...now can some body help me to recover our money from that cheating co. CHITUMA AND MANAGER DONNA.

PL. HELP US, AFTER I POSTING MY PROBLEM IN ALIBABA FORUM, THAT CHITUMA LADY MANAGER MS. DONNA, THREATENED ME...WHAT TO DO.......CAN ANYBODY HELPED ....

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:



we are one of the leading e-bike mfg. co. in pondicherry, INDIA. we have send 22000 usd last year to import the spare parts from CHINA based CHITUMA E-BIKE co. co. manager MS. DONNA , has commited us to send the material on time within 15 days, but after sending the money she said , there is lots of space in container so we have to send another more money, we have send that also, after that she told the doller price down we are in lossed, so she have demanded 7000usd more, i told its not possible, we have no more profits like that, and after six month i have send many mailed then she replied, she can send the material but only 50% material, and she told , our co. want to cut 10,000 usd because we have not taken material on time, we totally shocked....i have all corresspondent about this with her...now can some body help me to recover our money from that cheating co. CHITUMA AND MANAGER DONNA.

PL. HELP US, AFTER I POSTING MY PROBLEM IN ALIBABA FORUM, THAT CHITUMA LADY MANAGER MS. DONNA, THREATENED ME...WHAT TO DO.......CAN ANYBODY HELPED ....

If you've done nothing wrong there is no need to be afraid. The one who has done wrong should be the one afraid.

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:



we are one of the leading e-bike mfg. co. in pondicherry, INDIA. we have send 22000 usd last year to import the spare parts from CHINA based CHITUMA E-BIKE co. co. manager MS. DONNA , has commited us to send the material on time within 15 days, but after sending the money she said , there is lots of space in container so we have to send another more money, we have send that also, after that she told the doller price down we are in lossed, so she have demanded 7000usd more, i told its not possible, we have no more profits like that, and after six month i have send many mailed then she replied, she can send the material but only 50% material, and she told , our co. want to cut 10,000 usd because we have not taken material on time, we totally shocked....i have all corresspondent about this with her...now can some body help me to recover our money from that cheating co. CHITUMA AND MANAGER DONNA.

PL. HELP US, AFTER I POSTING MY PROBLEM IN ALIBABA FORUM, THAT CHITUMA LADY MANAGER MS. DONNA, THREATENED ME...WHAT TO DO.......CAN ANYBODY HELPED ....

     You are lying! maybe You are the  cheater?

Quoting from [lijuan520521]:

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:




we are one of the leading e-bike mfg. co. in pondicherry, INDIA. we have send 22000 usd last year to import the spare parts from CHINA based CHITUMA E-BIKE co. co. manager MS. DONNA , has commited us to send the material on time within 15 days, but after sending the money she said , there is lots of space in container so we have to send another more money, we have send that also, after that she told the doller price down we are in lossed, so she have demanded 7000usd more, i told its not possible, we have no more profits like that, and after six month i have send many mailed then she replied, she can send the material but only 50% material, and she told , our co. want to cut 10,000 usd because we have not taken material on time, we totally shocked....i have all corresspondent about this with her...now can some body help me to recover our money from that cheating co. CHITUMA AND MANAGER DONNA.

PL. HELP US, AFTER I POSTING MY PROBLEM IN ALIBABA FORUM, THAT CHITUMA LADY MANAGER MS. DONNA, THREATENED ME...WHAT TO DO.......CAN ANYBODY HELPED ....

     You are lying! maybe You are the  cheater?

Kindly explained why you call him a liar, a cheater? I believe you must have some understanding into this issue before you dare make this assumption.

G-force may sound like a cry baby, but seriously I am trying to understand what his point in this forum, like Wilhelm say, with that kind of Capital, he simply need to sue. This is a company that have been doing susiness with them for years!!.

So what is G-force trying to achieve (beside trying to get some MVP point, which is what I am doing), may someone enlighten us.

Quoting from [G-FORCE]: we are one of the leading e-bike mfg. co. in pondicherry, INDIA. we have send 22000 usd last year to import the spare parts from CHINA based CHITUMA E-BIKE co. co. manager MS. DONNA , has commited us to send the material on time within 15 days, but after sending the money she said , there is lots of space in container so we have to send another more money

I do not understand what concern it was of the supplier how much space there was in the container. The buyer pays for shipping so if the buyer chooses to have lots of space then that is your right.

Having said that I then do not understand why you would send more money and order more parts. I assume that if you needed them you would have ordered them in the first place so why place a larger order just because the seller pressures you to.

we have send that also, after that she told the doller price down we are in lossed, so she have demanded 7000usd more,

I don't understand this one either. Of course currency changes all of the time but once you agree on a price and make payment any further changes in the exchange rate cannot affect your purchase.

now can some body help me to recover our money from that cheating co. CHITUMA AND MANAGER DONNA.

The answer to this depends upon what your contract of purchase says. When I say contract this does not have to mean an actual contract document, just any paper trail such as emails, invoices etc that you may have that can prove to a third party what your agreement with the factory was.

If you can prove in writing what was agreed, and the seller is trying to act in contravention to that agreement then you can theoretically get a third party to find in your favor. However, assuming that you get a finding in your favor you still need to get that finding enforced which is going to be the most difficult step.

If you cannot prove in writing what has been agreed, or if you agreed to changes in the initial agreement and acted in relation to those changes but contrary to the original agreement then it would be fair to assume that both parties had agreed to waive the original terms of the agreement. That will make it more difficult to prove.

I recommend that you try to find some middle ground with the supplier. Get some product for your money that you can perhaps sell off and recover your costs. Then find yourself an alternative supplier if you think that the current supplier is untrustworthy. And in future make sure that you have all agreements in writing and that you have a pre-shipment inspection done BEFORE you release payment to the supplier.

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:


we are one of the leading e-bike mfg. co. in pondicherry, INDIA. we have send 22000 usd last year to import the spare parts from CHINA based CHITUMA E-BIKE co. co. manager MS. DONNA , has commited us to send the material on time within 15 days, but after sending the money she said , there is lots of space in container so we have to send another more money, we have send that also, after that she told the doller price down we are in lossed, so she have demanded 7000usd more, i told its not possible, we have no more profits like that, and after six month i have send many mailed then she replied, she can send the material but only 50% material, and she told , our co. want to cut 10,000 usd because we have not taken material on time, we totally shocked....i have all corresspondent about this with her...now can some body help me to recover our money from that cheating co. CHITUMA AND MANAGER DONNA.

Dear Sufferer,

File a complaint with the commercial attache of the Chinese Embassy in your area and send them all the info asap. They will certainly help you recover your money and punish the guilty in order to save other people.

 

MS

 

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:


we are one of the leading e-bike mfg. co. in pondicherry, INDIA. we have send 22000 usd last year to import the spare parts from CHINA based CHITUMA E-BIKE co. co. manager MS. DONNA , has commited us to send the material on time within 15 days, but after sending the money she said , there is lots of space in container so we have to send another more money, we have send that also, after that she told the doller price down we are in lossed, so she have demanded 7000usd more, i told its not possible, we have no more profits like that, and after six month i have send many mailed then she replied, she can send the material but only 50% material, and she told , our co. want to cut 10,000 usd because we have not taken material on time, we totally shocked....i have all corresspondent about this with her...now can some body help me to recover our money from that cheating co. CHITUMA AND MANAGER DONNA.

 

If you pay by Irrevocable Letter of Credit the banks handle the transfer of funds and Bills of Lading. If you are sending a cash payment directly to the seller this is where you are taking a very big risk. Confusicious say, "It is a poor musician who blames his instrument." Next time be wise and watch how you handle the transaction. There are always forms of recourse. Ask your Embassy to get involved. Usually their commercial and legal departments can help you resolve disputes. I wish you better luck next time. May your camel never lose its hump! Rango

Quoting from [G-FORCE]:



we are one of the leading e-bike mfg. co. in pondicherry, INDIA. we have send 22000 usd last year to import the spare parts from CHINA based CHITUMA E-BIKE co. co. manager MS. DONNA , has commited us to send the material on time within 15 days, but after sending the money she said , there is lots of space in container so we have to send another more money, we have send that also, after that she told the doller price down we are in lossed, so she have demanded 7000usd more, i told its not possible, we have no more profits like that, and after six month i have send many mailed then she replied, she can send the material but only 50% material, and she told , our co. want to cut 10,000 usd because we have not taken material on time, we totally shocked....i have all corresspondent about this with her...now can some body help me to recover our money from that cheating co. CHITUMA AND MANAGER DONNA.

wow, usd 22,000 advance money, man oh man, why didnt you fly to china and verify and make shipment yourself ? it is better to go and meet and find out real suppliers before sending money to anyone... such naive people are there and scammers are more than happy to feed on them as vultures. BEWARE ALSO MEANS BE AWARE.. Good luck people..