Quoting from [germex]:

Yesterday I saw a report on the internet that left me thinking and scratching my head. And that wasn't because of the subject, but because of the way it was presented.

A "specialist" (everybody is a "specialist "nowadays) was giving her opinion about different gadgets that supposedly or really help save gas. First she introduced two gadgets, one of which clearly didn't work, while the other clearly did work. And she stated just as clearly that she had tested these devices and found out the degree of usefulness by herself.

Then she mentioned the kind of device I listed in my first post above (magnets, etc.), and she turned hesitant. She didn't quite want to endorse them, but she evidently also didn't want to put her good name on the line, saying that these gadgets were useless. So she said something like, "apparently the American Automobile Association doesn't see much usefulness in these devices" or something similar.

If you know Western Media, you also know that they are crooks of the worst kind. If you dare saying truths that affect certain political or corporate interests, you are "toast" - you lose your job! So what some people do in case the truth is not welcome by the media, they don't state the lie themselves, but basically let others talk for them, like in this case.

That in turn is a clear endorsement for these devices from my point of view, and I wanted to let you know, in case you hear similar strange or "indirect" comments one day.

Haha```quite true!It is always more powerful to let others prove that you are right or wrong.And the ways of this presentation really impress me!

Auto emission standards should be in accordance with a law . The law should be adopted by the world's countries. it is conducive to the full fuel combustion and reduce air pollution. Automobile of high emission standard prices will be increased so that reduce the number of motor vehicles. but it will be accepted by worlds country? the all of automobile manufacturer can be accepted? the poor people and countries can be accepted? is it so difficult ?

Quoting from [germex]:

Besides what "autopartsworld" has already posted, there are other (proven) ways to get more miles out of your gas.

Magnets - If you put two _extremely_ strong magnets along your fuel line - north pole on one side, south pole on the other - and wrap a steel band around them to hold them in place, you will impose some kind of charge on the gas (or diesel) molecules. As these charges are obviously identical, the molecules repel each other, providing a better mix of air and combustible. Do the same on the air intake, also as close as possible to the engine.

Many people will claim - out of ignorance or personal interest - that this is nonsense, but in reality it's a proven fact that it works.

Injection of "Brown's gas" - Brown's gas is one of the possible forms of gas you can get by electrolyzing water. HHO is another, but Brown's gas works better. If you look at the energy input to produce this gas and the output you get by burning it, this sounds like nonsense. But as it improves and intensifies the combustion of the fuel in the cylinder, leaving almost no contaminants, it increases the milage per gallon.

Injection of water - This sounds even crazier, but the US military has used it in WWII with very good results. It works somewhat similar to the injection of Brown's gas, but can be used additionally, and with improved results. - The equipments for Brown's gas and water injection are avilable as kits or ready to be installed.

As I said above, all these are proven technologies, though there are always open doors for improvements. In fact, I have some ideas along this line and will soon start working on them. In the meantime, you might want to think about this subject, as purchasing the required equipment of course costs some money, but with the rising fuel prices it might well be worth it. Especially truckers and other "heavy drivers" would benefit a lot.

it is a great plan. The shound is possible.  Released results of research in the forum if you  succeed. Good luck!

Quoting from [Jack Shen]:it is a great plan. The shound is possible.  Released results of research in the forum if you  succeed. Good luck!

It's not just a plan, but proven technology. The only caveat is that you should be careful when selecting the vendor for the equipment that produces Brown's gas. Somewhere I posted a reliable website for that.

Quoting from [germex]:

 High-strength magnets (N56) do a very good job, especially if you don't buy them too short. The fuel should have a good distance to run through the magnetic field. - And yes, you should also have magnets in the air intake.

 

Interesting to apply in my car, do you know how long the distance roughly and I supose it should be placed on non metalic fuel line.


As you know that the air intake diameter is about 3 inches or even larger any idea how to configure the north-south pole magnetic  along its diameter?

Quoting from [ians]:

Quoting from [germex]:

 High-strength magnets (N56) do a very good job, especially if you don't buy them too short. The fuel should have a good distance to run through the magnetic field. - And yes, you should also have magnets in the air intake.

 

Interesting to apply in my car, do you know how long the distance roughly and I supose it should be placed on non metalic fuel line.



As you know that the air intake diameter is about 3 inches or even larger any idea how to configure the north-south pole magnetic  along its diameter?

The nagnets should be at least 5cm long. And don't worry placing them over metallic pipes. They are pretty "tranparent" to the magnetic field lines.

In the case of the air intake, you might have to put two or three magnets side by side, to to cover almost half the circle of the intake pipe. Do the same on the other side, and wrap a steel band around.

Just make sure that you always have opposite poles on the opposite sides of the pipes. And place the magnets as close as possible to the engine intake. The effect of the magnets on the air and gas is very weak and fades away soon.

 

...... And place the magnets as close as possible to the engine intake. The effect of the magnets on the air and gas is very weak and fades away soon.

 

Dont you come across that the engine heat would demagnetized the magnet? As far as I know the magnets are prone to high temp and impact.

Quoting from [ians]:Dont you come across that the engine heat would demagnetized the magnet? As far as I know the magnets are prone to high temp and impact.

From a point of view of physics, that is possible, but I've never heard of a case where it actually happened. Remember that the engine is cooled and that air is blowing around under the hood. Apaprently that's enough to avoid too high temperatures.

Quoting from [germex]:

Quoting from [ians]:Dont you come across that the engine heat would demagnetized the magnet? As far as I know the magnets are prone to high temp and impact.

From a point of view of physics, that is possible, but I've never heard of a case where it actually happened. Remember that the engine is cooled and that air is blowing around under the hood. Apaprently that's enough to avoid too high temperatures.

  I try to find the strong magnet or probably used the toroidal shape magnet salvaged from old loudspeakers. any idea how to measure fuel consumption benefit and the magnet?

Quoting from [ians]:  I try to find the strong magnet or probably used the toroidal shape magnet salvaged from old loudspeakers. any idea how to measure fuel consumption benefit and the magnet?

I'm not sure what the polarity of this magnet is. If in the center of the curved sides there is hardly any magnetic attraction, it won't do you any good. One pole has to be next to the fuel line or air intake, and the other on the opposite side - far away from the line. - Don't know how to measure the magnetic field strength.

If you take note of your present fuel consumption (assuming that you always drive under very similar conditions) per mile or km, just compare to the results after installing the magnets. That should tell you how much you are saving.