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Cutting down on fuel consumption - UPDATED - see 10th answer
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Besides what "autopartsworld" has already posted, there are other (proven) ways to get more miles out of your gas.

Magnets - If you put two _extremely_ strong magnets along your fuel line - north pole on one side, south pole on the other - and wrap a steel band around them to hold them in place, you will impose some kind of charge on the gas (or diesel) molecules. As these charges are obviously identical, the molecules repel each other, providing a better mix of air and combustible. Do the same on the air intake, also as close as possible to the engine.

Many people will claim - out of ignorance or personal interest - that this is nonsense, but in reality it's a proven fact that it works.

Injection of "Brown's gas" - Brown's gas is one of the possible forms of gas you can get by electrolyzing water. HHO is another, but Brown's gas works better. If you look at the energy input to produce this gas and the output you get by burning it, this sounds like nonsense. But as it improves and intensifies the combustion of the fuel in the cylinder, leaving almost no contaminants, it increases the milage per gallon.

Injection of water - This sounds even crazier, but the US military has used it in WWII with very good results. It works somewhat similar to the injection of Brown's gas, but can be used additionally, and with improved results. - The equipments for Brown's gas and water injection are avilable as kits or ready to be installed.

As I said above, all these are proven technologies, though there are always open doors for improvements. In fact, I have some ideas along this line and will soon start working on them. In the meantime, you might want to think about this subject, as purchasing the required equipment of course costs some money, but with the rising fuel prices it might well be worth it. Especially truckers and other "heavy drivers" would benefit a lot.

29 May 2008 16:28
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Quoting from [germex]:

If you take note of your present fuel consumption (assuming that you always drive under very similar conditions) per mile or km, just compare to the results after installing the magnets. That should tell you how much you are saving.

 I am not sure it is noticeable if the fuel saving not increase significantly.
22 Nov 2008 07:22
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Quoting from [ians]:I am not sure it is noticeable if the fuel saving not increase significantly.
Depending on how well your engine is running right now, the savings should be in the 15-25% range. - Pretty good compared to what the magnets cost.
22 Nov 2008 10:03
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Quoting from [germex]:

 
Depending on how well your engine is running right now, the savings should be in the 15-25% range. - Pretty good compared to what the magnets cost.
Most engines are managed by ECU not much we can do about it in standard tune up but 15 -25%  more millage for just installing some strong magnets that pretty impressed me. unfortunately strong magnets are not abundant items here.That's why thinking about salvage from other devices though hard to find the proper shape.

I believe that 15 to 25% figure is proven  so we dont have to test it again.
03 Dec 2008 07:40
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Quoting from [ians]:Most engines are managed by ECU not much we can do about it in standard tune up but 15 -25%  more millage for just installing some strong magnets that pretty impressed me. unfortunately strong magnets are not abundant items here.That's why thinking about salvage from other devices though hard to find the proper shape.


I believe that 15 to 25% figure is proven  so we dont have to test it again.

I'm not sure how much shipping to Indonesia would be, but if you buy the strongest magnets, you can get away with relatively small and light ones, to keep shipping costs down. So you could buy them on the internet with one of those companies that ship worldwide.

But make sure you follow the instructions!!! There is more than one guy in this world who didn't believe just how strong these magnets are and chipped off part of a finger. They have to be handled with extreme care! Please don't forget that, or you won't be able to type on your keyboard for some time. [em4]

03 Dec 2008 10:03
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Quoting from [germex]:


Injection of "Brown's gas" - Brown's gas is one of the possible forms of gas you can get by electrolyzing water. HHO is another, but Brown's gas works better. If you look at the energy input to produce this gas and the output you get by burning it, this sounds like nonsense. But as it improves and intensifies the combustion of the fuel in the cylinder, leaving almost no contaminants, it increases the milage per gallon.




Brown's gas does indeed work!  I have a model produced by a company in Michigan, USA.  I'm driving a big old chevy astro van.  Great for hauling, work projects, loading a lot of people from place to place - but horrible on gas.  That thing never got more than 15 miles a gallon and that was in prime condition. 



At the time I had the unit installed ( by an experienced mechanic ) I was getting 11 miles per gallon.  So horrendous, so expensive.  But the alternative was to take on a new car expense at a time when the economy is just too worrisome. 



220 was the most I could get out of a full tank of gas, maybe 250 if I over filled.  When gasoline was 3.90 a gallon, my fuel expense was very close to 90 dollars per week.  $360 per month. 



My new gas mileage is 27.8 miles per gallon.  I get 480 miles out of every tank of gas.  27.8 Miles is my average after 60 gallons of gas, driving a total of 1668 miles.  In the city I get around 24.5 miles per gallon.  But on the express, I get 32! 



I just got an oil change - so I expect to do even better.



As explained to me, the Brown's Gas mixes with the fuel you use already, making the combustion engine burn the fuel more efficiently. 



To the average driver, this means, from 25% to 50% less gas used.  My mileage is much better, but the company sticks to this measure.  Instead of expensive, polluting gas going out of my tailpipe, more of it is now being used to drive.



We use post it notes now to remind us to check the gas gauge.  You don't have to buy a brand new vehicle to help protect the environment, or your wallet. 



The unit all together, including the part and the installation and tax cost $550 USD.  So, my initial expense was recovered in about a month and a half.  As gas prices rise  again, I am so relieved that THIS at least I can control.



I also feel good about helping the environment.  The additional miles per gallon I'm getting, mean that gas is not wasted as exhaust.



Before I got my unit, I saw kits for making your own fuel cell, and instruction manuals.  Since I am in no way mechanically inclined towards autos, these turned me off.  Even IF I could make the unit, I would then have to figure out where to place it under the hood, how to tap into the correct vacuum and electrical wiring systems, how to get around 02 sensors.  Overwhelming.  And it put the technology pretty much out of reach for me.



This unit came boxed, with all the major parts and instructions necessary to install.  My mechanic put it on in about 2.5 hours.  All I do to maintain it is check the water at every gas fill. 



Disclaimer:  I was so impressed that I became a distributor for the company.  I won't turn this into a sales message.  But if anyone wants to know how to get one, just email or message me. 
06 Jan 2009 15:34
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Congratulations! From what we can tell, you made a wise decision. Indeed it's not so much about the energy produced by burning Brown's gas, but the increased efficiency in the burning process of your gas. That's why you now need less of it.

Your previous milage sounds horrible to me, but I don't know how much is normal. I hate vans and trucks. [em1] In any case, thanks for the success story.

07 Jan 2009 08:49
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16 Sep 2009 19:08
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As an engineer, i believe that it will work. But i want to know if it will work with nigerian fuel. Pls sir carry me along, i have some wonderful things in my memory to show to the world.
17 Sep 2009 02:59
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