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Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards

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18 May 2008 03:50
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Quoting from [vanesha]:

Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards



Hi, we have also been cheated from one of the country in Asia.  The police department in that country is assisting us for the investigation which is finishing soon.  We have sent our affidavit to police department to file the case.

As we are the members of SMCCI, we seek for advise from the legal advisor.  We are advised to collate all the documents, communications and whatever that can support the evidence with the other party.  Logde the report at China Embassy and ask them to forward the complaint to Criminal Investigation Department in China.  If you have any good contact in China, seek help from them.  Send emails to all the legal authority in China including China Embassy in Singapore asking for assistance. 

Make sure you do a regular follow up with investigation outcome.  But before you do that, just check again to ensure that it is genuine delay.  Give yourself a time frame to take the action.

19 May 2008 09:12
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Quoting from [vanesha]:

Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards



Hi, Vanesha,

Your case is very much like one encountered by another Alibaba memeber who came to me for advice one year ago. His case was also about tyres and with a supplier in Qingdao. That supplier also delayed the delivery, time and again, using all sorts of excuses. The Qingdao supplier appears to be a valid corporation, but it was overwhelmed by greed. The Alibaba memeber had been begging for the supplier's mercy, but to no avail. It finally turned out that lawsuit is the only viable choice. My advice to him may also apply to your case. That is, insteading of asking for their mercy through emails,  have your man in China and take firm actions, either through a lawyer or on yourself. My prior experience in assisting Alibaba memebers recovering their loss suggests that plea alone never works. You may also wish to have a read of my post on dealing with scammers located in China, which is stuck on top of this forum,  for further advice.

Lawyer_He

 

19 May 2008 20:18
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Quoting from [vanesha]:

Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards

As supplier said that they have dispatched goods, what you can do is to ask him give you the copy of B/L, or does the forwarder supplied by you or by your supplier, if it is your forwarder, you can check from them.

more over, USD50,000, such a big amount of order, why not use L/C to secure for it. unless it is your trusted and cooperated supplier, otherwise you can not use T/T for such a big amount. the other safer ways is give some down payment, and balance against fax of B/L, so you can know whether they have shipped your goods.

Check whether they have really dispatched the goods, if not, then go ahead for law ways.

20 May 2008 00:00
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Quoting from [vanesha]:

Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards

   why  you took  such a big sum  T/T  payment advance?you can choose other option.  It was too late to conplaint other .. now , the best way is to ensure if the supplier is a scammer then if he lie to you, you should keep all the evidence(including communication , e-mail, company name, computer  IP address,ect)  and have your man take a lawsuit to him , Aboved Mr lawyer he  is a good man, he was specilizeing in dealing with these kinds of cases.... Good luck ..

 Regards

 Evanse Yip

21 May 2008 01:11
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Quoting from [vanesha]:

Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards

hi, please don't worry about it irst. If he is a cheater,he will not reply you or contact with you. The cheater often disappear  after get the money,while he didin't. Maybe it is really dispactched,or there are some other reasons.

He didn't dispatche in time and gave you a good reason.He did not have a good trust,but if you have received the product,i advise you don,t against him. while, against him by yourself. Let him pay for that your losing.The legal against is very complicated.

 

21 May 2008 18:41
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Quoting from [vanesha]:

Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards



really, some due diligence is quite necessary, otherwise you take high risk of the deal
21 May 2008 19:58
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Quoting from [vanesha]:

Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards



yes, i can help you at this matter!
08 Jun 2008 07:29
Post 9 of 14
Quoting from [vanesha]:

Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards



similar case happened with me.. the name of the person was jack wong , and his companies are qingdao greenfull arts and craft co ltd, sungreen paper holding uk ltd, and chenming paper holding uk ltd.

his email are:

ming_jack1973@hotmail.com, jackminglondon@yahoo.co.uk

 

un can contact me anytime for further information at ankit_ait@msn.com

12 Jul 2008 03:50
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As a Chinese lawyer  I  give you suggestion as follows:

 A.  You entrust somebody(lawyer is best) to contact the company and keep in touch with them.  to find out  wether the company cheat you.

B. If they are cheating you , the lawyer can collect evidence and take lawsuit  immediately.

 

17 Jul 2008 09:03
Post 11 of 14

sir,

was the name of the man was jack wong? if yes, he is the same person who did fraud with us .

he generally gave bank details and he is a cheater, a fraud

 

 

ankit jain

0091 9971741666

 

 

oting from [vanesha]:

Hi,

We send USD 50,000 to supplier in Qingdao china to buy Tires We send them payment by T/T & have confirmation from supplier.

After getting payment everyday he said your goods dispatched but due to techinical problem in vessel delayed. When we asked them to give us container number but he said dont worry I am not a cheater.

Please guide what we do legaly against this supplier?

Regards


25 Jul 2008 02:13
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