I am about to make my first buy here on Ali Baba. And I have such a hard time in sending someone I don't know, a large amount of money. What can I do to protect from FRAUD? The Seller has Trust Pass... But to get this you only need to pay 500.00 USD to get. Can I check with Ali Baba to see if there have ever been any complaints on a company???

Quoting from [First time buyer]:

I am about to make my first buy here on Ali Baba. And I have such a hard time in sending someone I don't know, a large amount of money. What can I do to protect from FRAUD? The Seller has Trust P *... But to get this you only need to pay 500.00 USD to get. Can I check with Ali Baba to see if there have ever been any complaints on a company???

Hi there,

In this forum, you can find a list of scammers but it is not useful enough.

With Trust Pass im sure he is 99.9% genuine.

Normally Trust Pass members they have been checked by a third parties to verify his business.

Regards

Tom Law

 

Replying to [Artboxmy]:  You know that was really a naive statement.  "99.99% of trust members are real" 

Actually Tom if you knew the amount that were not actual businesses and or businesses that claim they have been in business for more years than they actually have been.

I Checked 30 Trust Pass members at random accross several items from several countries including the U.S.

Results:

US 

• 3 were Fake companies ( they were not DBA, Inc, LLC, LP or LLP)
• 2 were real (1 with correct information 1 with information establishing itself as a company 5 years before it was registered.)

UK

• 2 were Fake companies using the details of other real companies unrelated to the type of business done by the real companies
• 3 were real (2 companies with correct information including business address 1 claimed they were in buisness 10 years and only established this year with misleading business address)

India

• 2 were Fake companies
• 3 were real with fully disclosed and correct details

Australia

• 1 Fake company
• 4 real companies (2 companies with full disclosure 2 alibab sites appear however to have been hijacked as what is being sold is not the business that those companies are in or someone using the details of the real companies)

Indonesia

• 3 Fake companies (None of the companies could be verified by company registration phone numbers nor physical address)
• 2 real companies with full registration and with verified business locations and phone numbers.

Singapore

• 5 out of 5 real and verifiable via phone numbers and business addresses.

Conclusion:

36.7% of all Trust Pass were fake

7.5% of the real companies providing false or misleading information.

55.8% of all Trust Pass with full disclosure of facts

Now in the scope of things thats not a very good average for companies/businesses that are supposed to be verified by a 3rd party. 

Then theres the fact that Western Trust Pass members are verified by Asia CIS yet Asia CIS has no database or profiles for companies they say they verified for any nation in the Americas - North, Central, South or European countries.  Then they go on to say that they offer verifications on 58 countries in the Asian, Oceania region, but if you go to their website you can only actually purchase information on 23 of the 58. 

Isn't it even more amazing that over 68% of the companies that have apparently been verified by Huaxia DNB can't be found in the DNB database.

Now tell me where's the trust?  But more than that why is every country so far behind Singapore in their Trust Pass honesty? 

Now then heres one other tidbit of information all the real companies were selling generic items, commodities, or refurbished goods.  All the fakes were selling brand name items. 

I did do some research on 2 Gold Suppliers with Trust Pass as well.  Two of the most mentioned companies in this forum are not listed with DNB so how were thy verified by DNB?

Ranger

hi,my friend

we are one of the biggest shoes and clothing,Jeans , bags wholesaler in china .

In recent years,Our company specialized in product for shoes and clothing and t-shirt  to export to the foreign countries,

such as Nike,polo,a&f, Jordan,Puma, Adidas louis vuitton ,gucci,chanel d&g,dsquared etc.

Quality first, Customer forever, is our persistent motive of success.

Our products are mainly exported to America, Europe, UK, Japan and so on,

all of the world. Since the establishment of our company.

We must prepare the well after receiving the order immediately.

We can assure you of our excellent quality products and best service.

We have wide and good business relations with many shoes and t-shirt and clothing factories here.

We can accept small trial  and bulk orders, even drop shipping business is welcome here;

we have good business relations with express company here, so we can get a competitive price

even for your bulk order here, we have got the stocks here in our warehouse,

so we can ship the goods immediately once we got the confirmation from you.

Kindly let us know your interest and we will send you photo samples and quotations

for you to study.

for price:

we use DHL send to italy 4-7days

Send to Italy:

1 pair shoe: 42EUR

More than 5pairs EUR:36 per pair

More than 10pair,i can 28eur per pair..

more than 50pair i can 20eur per pair.

50-100pair:15eur per pair

Send to uk,USA,Australia,France other country

we use ems:4-7days

1 pair: 30eur

5-8pair:27EUR,8-24pair:18EUR

50-100pair:15eur

PILO t-shart 1 piece 25eur 10piece:15eur

The More shoes the better price.

 If you want to buy please contact me:

my MSN: faddy668@hotmail.com

        duffy566@hotmail.com

My Email: faddy668@hotmail.com  

my website:www.faddy-shop.com

hi,my friend

we are one of the biggest shoes and clothing,Jeans , bags wholesaler in china .

In recent years,Our company specialized in product for shoes and clothing and t-shirt  to export to the foreign countries,

such as Nike,polo,a&f, Jordan,Puma, Adidas louis vuitton ,gucci,chanel d&g,dsquared etc.

Quality first, Customer forever, is our persistent motive of success.

Our products are mainly exported to America, Europe, UK, Japan and so on,

all of the world. Since the establishment of our company.

We must prepare the well after receiving the order immediately.

We can assure you of our excellent quality products and best service.

We have wide and good business relations with many shoes and t-shirt and clothing factories here.

We can accept small trial  and bulk orders, even drop shipping business is welcome here;

we have good business relations with express company here, so we can get a competitive price

even for your bulk order here, we have got the stocks here in our warehouse,

so we can ship the goods immediately once we got the confirmation from you.

Kindly let us know your interest and we will send you photo samples and quotations

for you to study.

for price:

we use DHL send to italy 4-7days

Send to Italy:

1 pair shoe: 42EUR

More than 5pairs EUR:36 per pair

More than 10pair,i can 28eur per pair..

more than 50pair i can 20eur per pair.

50-100pair:15eur per pair

Send to uk,USA,Australia,France other country

we use ems:4-7days

1 pair: 30eur

5-8pair:27EUR,8-24pair:18EUR

50-100pair:15eur

PILO t-shart 1 piece 25eur 10piece:15eur

The More shoes the better price.

 If you want to buy please contact me:

my MSN: faddy668@hotmail.com

        duffy566@hotmail.com

My Email: faddy668@hotmail.com  

my website:www.faddy-shop.com

Quoting from [First time buyer]:

I am about to make my first buy here on Ali Baba. And I have such a hard time in sending someone I don't know, a large amount of money. What can I do to protect from FRAUD? The Seller has Trust P *... But to get this you only need to pay 500.00 USD to get. Can I check with Ali Baba to see if there have ever been any complaints on a company???

Maybe you can hire a local helper to do the in-depth investigation for you with low fees. The guy can check the supplier in the local commerce administration authority. So you need to let the supplier provide more info. For example, business ID, company bank account, legal representative etc. These info will be most helpful.

Quoting from [First time buyer]:

I am about to make my first buy here on Ali Baba. And I have such a hard time in sending someone I don't know, a large amount of money. What can I do to protect from FRAUD? The Seller has Trust P *... But to get this you only need to pay 500.00 USD to get. Can I check with Ali Baba to see if there have ever been any complaints on a company???

Contact a company called Ohibomo.com.  They safeguard your funds, notify your seller about it, and they only release your funds to the seller after you have inspected the merchandise.  Their fees are about 10% for the first $1000  The higher the amount of money, the lower the % slides.