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Quoting from [Safe Trading Admin]:
Case Description:
I was contacted by two people from a company in Henan, . They offered me a big purchase order and invited us for a face-to-face meeting to sign the sales contract. We met in in January, 2008. From the first day, they asked me to pay high bills for KTV (Karaoke bars) and expensive gifts after contract signed. However, they never paid their deposit; they delayed time; and asked for even more expensive presents. When we pressured them for a deposit payment, they ran away. There were a group of people who took part in this fraud scheme. They pretended to be the company president, financing manager, accounting manager, marketing manager and banker. However, they all ran away when were asked to take their pictures. Some people only use the Internet to attract victims to their city so they can prey on them.
Case Analysis:
1. Serious buyers usually don’t place large orders the first time. Generally speaking, they will work with order from suppliers several times in order to build a mutually trustworthy relationship first; and also to make sure the supplier continuously has the capability and capacity to produce quality products.
2. Scammers will send professional looking inquiries asking for product details, such as specifications, price, etc. This is only the first step of their plan to defraud you and is only designed to make initial contact with their victims. During the next step of their plan to defraud victims, they offer a big purchase order and invite victims to fly to their country to sign a sales contract and discuss business in detail. However, in their country, they will find an excuse to make you pay expenses, such as expensive gifts, dinner, or other entertainment expenses according to their “local tradition.” In reality, scammers receive financial rewards from restaurants when they order expensive items, such as wines or cigarettes.
3. If you encounter this situation, refuse their requests and leave them as soon as possible. You should also move to another hotel to avoid any possible threat to your property and security.
4. It is always essential to check the background information of your potential business partners. This can be done by searching the Internet or on Alibaba.com's forum. Conducting your own due diligence to avoid Internet Fraud is always important. Here are some tips to help verify a potential trade partner:
- Ask detailed and direct questions. Genuine buyers will have the patience to wait for your reply, and will be knowledgeable about the product you are selling;
- Check their phone and fax numbers are correct;
- Ask for their business address as well as their email address;
- Check their website URL and their Host Registration;
- Check with the Business Registrar in their country to confirm their business is real;
- Check out their business profile and activity;
- Contact the Chamber of Commerce, or the Embassy of the country and ask for the Commercial Department. Check out if this company is real, the Director's name and the name of the Purchaser or Procurement Officer and their phone number
i contacted one seller on alibaba from india
this company is a fraud it is so be careful .Sunil Chandra Das
seling ambergris , his mobil no 0091-9474873827 compaany TeNET enterprise
in bengal india
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Quoting from [Safe Trading Admin]:
So, we all go for a big order contract or Inquiry, but always remember not to
do such a blind date affair and be aware with a stranger that we just met.Case Description:
I was contacted by two people from a company in Henan, . They offered me a big purchase order and invited us for a face-to-face meeting to sign the sales contract. We met in in January, 2008. From the first day, they asked me to pay high bills for KTV (Karaoke bars) and expensive gifts after contract signed. However, they never paid their deposit; they delayed time; and asked for even more expensive presents. When we pressured them for a deposit payment, they ran away. There were a group of people who took part in this fraud scheme. They pretended to be the company president, financing manager, accounting manager, marketing manager and banker. However, they all ran away when were asked to take their pictures. Some people only use the Internet to attract victims to their city so they can prey on them.
Case Analysis:
1.Serious buyers usually don’t place large orders the first time. Generally speaking, they will work with order from suppliers several times in order to build a mutually trustworthy relationship first; and also to make sure the supplier continuously has the capability and capacity to produce quality products.
2.Scammers will send professional looking inquiries asking for product details, such as specifications, price, etc. This is only the first step of their plan to defraud you and is only designed to make initial contact with their victims. During the next step of their plan to defraud victims, they offer a big purchase order and invite victims to fly to their country to sign a sales contract and discuss business in detail. However, in their country, they will find an excuse to make you pay expenses, such as expensive gifts, dinner, or other entertainment expenses according to their “local tradition.” In reality, scammers receive financial rewards from restaurants when they order expensive items, such as wines or cigarettes.
3. If you encounter this situation, refuse their requests and leave them as soon as possible. You should also move to another hotel to avoid any possible threat to your property and security.
4. It is always essential to check the background information of your potential business partners. This can be done by searching the Internet or on Alibaba.com's forum. Conducting your own due diligence to avoid Internet Fraud is always important. Here are some tips to help verify a potential trade partner:
- Ask detailed and direct questions. Genuine buyers will have the patience to wait for your reply, and will be knowledgeable about the product you are selling;
- Check their phone and fax numbers are correct;
- Ask for their business address as well as their email address;
- Check their website URL and their Host Registration;
- Check with the Business Registrar in their country to confirm their business is real;
- Check out their business profile and activity;
- Contact the Chamber of Commerce, or the Embassy of the country and ask for the Commercial Department. Check out if this company is real, the Director's name and the name of the Purchaser or Procurement Officer and their phone number
We must be very careful in case of big orders. Only fraudsters place such huge orders . No sincere buyer will never place huge order at once. Better to check the authencity of the buyer fom the chamber of commerce of their country or better to get their bankers opinion. Many banks give opinion reports about ther customers.
Tajmul
Quoting from [Safe Trading Admin]:don't pay for any gift, don't agree for any entertainment .. learn the harsh way, if you want to drink liquor, drink that in your own country, other than that, stay in your hotel during business trips, and only go out to buy important gifts for your own family or love ones ..Case Description:
I was contacted by two people from a company in Henan, . They offered me a big purchase order and invited us for a face-to-face meeting to sign the sales contract. We met in in January, 2008. From the first day, they asked me to pay high bills for KTV (Karaoke bars) and expensive gifts after contract signed. However, they never paid their deposit; they delayed time; and asked for even more expensive presents. When we pressured them for a deposit payment, they ran away. There were a group of people who took part in this fraud scheme. They pretended to be the company president, financing manager, accounting manager, marketing manager and banker. However, they all ran away when were asked to take their pictures. Some people only use the Internet to attract victims to their city so they can prey on them.
Case Analysis:
1.Serious buyers usually don’t place large orders the first time. Generally speaking, they will work with order from suppliers several times in order to build a mutually trustworthy relationship first; and also to make sure the supplier continuously has the capability and capacity to produce quality products.
2.Scammers will send professional looking inquiries asking for product details, such as specifications, price, etc. This is only the first step of their plan to defraud you and is only designed to make initial contact with their victims. During the next step of their plan to defraud victims, they offer a big purchase order and invite victims to fly to their country to sign a sales contract and discuss business in detail. However, in their country, they will find an excuse to make you pay expenses, such as expensive gifts, dinner, or other entertainment expenses according to their “local tradition.” In reality, scammers receive financial rewards from restaurants when they order expensive items, such as wines or cigarettes.
3. If you encounter this situation, refuse their requests and leave them as soon as possible. You should also move to another hotel to avoid any possible threat to your property and security.
4. It is always essential to check the background information of your potential business partners. This can be done by searching the Internet or on Alibaba.com's forum. Conducting your own due diligence to avoid Internet Fraud is always important. Here are some tips to help verify a potential trade partner:
- Ask detailed and direct questions. Genuine buyers will have the patience to wait for your reply, and will be knowledgeable about the product you are selling;
- Check their phone and fax numbers are correct;
- Ask for their business address as well as their email address;
- Check their website URL and their Host Registration;
- Check with the Business Registrar in their country to confirm their business is real;
- Check out their business profile and activity;
- Contact the Chamber of Commerce, or the Embassy of the country and ask for the Commercial Department. Check out if this company is real, the Director's name and the name of the Purchaser or Procurement Officer and their phone number
Leave the risk to me.
I have been reading all of these posts on scams and posts.
I am acting as a supplier-agent broker for an American company that is presently undergoing very large orders with suppliers I have verified and validated. I operate out of
Hong Kong
, and have lived in the region 7 years.
I will do all the research, validation, site visits (yes I will go to to meet the supplier first) and any other due diligence to verify authenticity. Remember I act initially only as an introduction participant, the supplier is expected to pays me a small commission on the total order based on quantity, and you also to do the same. I do not ask for any money to refund my time, expenses. I will only get paid if you do business with them.
You will deal with the factory directly after you are satisfied that I have presented a worthwhile supplier.. I will help you find the perfect match for your requirements. You make the choice I just verify legitimacy and authentication and quality. I will offer my services for a 1% of total cost of transaction orders, excluding shipping, insurance, freight if applicable
I will tell you it goes both ways. I will also be expected to verify you and ensure you are not trying to scam from your end.
Please feel free to ask any questions or add any further details.
I thank you for your time,
Calvin Van Zyl
China Star Asia Pacific LTD
Skype: ceeveezee
Are you another scammer? 1% of total order? What if the order is small,it is not even enough to cover your travel cost! Or are you only expecting million dollars deal? If the company is doing million dollars deal, they would have send their own people to check on the company.
Beware of such service, people!
We are nearly visit Ken Long company in Guilin. This was claimed as a scam in another thread and we checked it again by our people in China before we go, so we were lucky not to be trspped by them.
The website www.kenlongcn.com looks good and even in the first email they boast about their company. They are this kind of fraud company.
I have this customer who placed big order purchase, but when i checked their company address, nothing usefull could be found.
The puzzling matter is that they are free member's.
How do i check companies when coming across such a events?
Sam Ngwenya
sam.ngwenya@telkomsa.net