This is for Identical or Similar replies to posts and questions on this forum.

Copy and paste of information from onother source is fine, but must show where you have gained this info from at the end of your reply or post. If this information is again sent to another post or reply to a question, this would become spam if it was not  related too the question or what the person wanted to know, and would be treated like this, by way of deletion from this forum.

The forum should have good quality of information and not the same type of info sent out for replies to posts and questions where points is earned for duplicate information.

Let's give people quality information, but directed to them as individuals and not just made for any persons.

Quoting from [Strongman Products]:

There are sometime replies, mostly to ever the same questions, that you can not make better and it would be useless to change them every time only because you suddenly feel it is spam. Why should one reply individually to a stranger in an open forum ?

May I suggest you to accept the rules, posted by Admin !

Forum Posting Rules: DOs and DON'Ts (update 14 April) at:

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/173499/Forum_Posting_Rules_DOs_and_DON_Ts_update_14_April_.htm

Wilhelm

 

Quoting from [wilhelm]:

Quoting from [Strongman Products]:

Sorry maybe you miss the point, i am the Moderator in this form and as you know as Mods we are here to manage the forum, in that way we have to Del or move posts/replies if we feel this action is needed, as you have given the rules for the forum, which are for the members, but as Moderators we have our own Moderation Guidelines.

moderators are allowed to delete, edit and respond to messages from other members

Having you reply text ready for the next persons questions set on you computer desktop in a file is not how i want people to get replies all the time, it would be much better to quote your other reply and enter the link, and ask this member to check this, not to copy and paste all the text time and time again.

I will show your saved text at the end of this manual reply, and see the three foums where this text is also duplicated to members questions.

resources.alibaba.com/topic/288516/Please_some_can_verify_this_alibaba_company_seller_.html

verifing a company
resources.alibaba.com/topic/280797/Scam_or_not_.html

Safe trading

resources.alibaba.com/topic/273972/cervelo_p3.htmReport

Suspicious Companies

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Indonesia has no Industry in this kind of merchandise !

Why do you think, that imported items in Indonesia could be cheaper than in the country of manufacturing or in your homecountry, one point is two times shipping costs !!!

All this Indonesian Scammer believe and are often right, that greedy buyers will take everything for sure, if they only see their profit and not think about that such a business is impossible !

No manufacturer sells something to Indonesia cheaper, because it is a wonderful country !

No manufacturer sells something to Indonesia cheaper, because they have so much poor people !

No manufacturer sell something to Indonesia cheaper, because they would not worry their wholesalers in other countries when their items could be reimported from Indonesia cheaper than they sell at home !!!

Who not believe this or deny it, may post and give a prove that I am wrong !

Buy furniture, plant oil, copra, charcoal and Batik in Indonesia thats the items you can buy cheap and with good quality if due diligence is used before !

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Make the reply to the person as an individual, give the link to you other reply so they can check the text so that it's not being pasted 100s of time to new members, sure takes a couple of seconds to paste the text, and a couple of minutes to type the words directed to that person, but thats quality reading, i for one don't like to read the same article more than once.

answer to [Strongman Products]:

Here you see a "qualified" personal answer, by one from you supported Indonesian helper and once again my copied reply, this time awarded as the Best Answer !


BTW two awards in other Boards two times the last week, with this copy  !!


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Posted on Jun 05, 2008 at 07:14 by rienimayasari [ID]

Re: Can i trust this person..?

Quoting from [braaant]:

Can i trust this person? I have almost secured a deal and just want to know if theyre trustworthy company.

Thanks!

PT. Selalu Bersamamu

Street Address : Jl. Indah Lamse No. 31

City : Tanjung

Province/State : Propinsi Sumatera Utara

Country/Region : Indonesia

JUst to inform, Selalu Bersamamu means "always be with u". Romantic words for a company name. Maybe someone from North SUmatera could verify the address for you.

Good Luck

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Posted on Jun 05, 2008 at 19:26 by wilhelm [TH]



PT. Selalu Bersamamu are distributor and supplier for Product Snowboard !

Indonesia has no Industry in this kind of merchandise !


Why do you think, that imported items in Indonesia could be cheaper than in the country of manufacturing or in your homecountry, one point is two times shipping costs !!!
and so on !!!!!!!!!!!


Wilhelm


You can read it in full here :

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/301820/Can_i_trust_this_person_.htm


and the second here :

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/300290/DewiShop_scam_or_not_.htm

Quoting from [wilhelm]:

 

What you are on about!

I have made the rule here on thsi forum, so follow it!

Just because people who do not know you send copied repies to them give you 10pts for best answer, or that you are the only one with a common sence reply, this makes this right!

Spend more time with real replies and do not paste them just to get you points.

If i see on my forum i will del for a fact,

Quoting from [Strongman Products]:

What you are on about!

I have made the rule here on thsi forum, so follow it!

John see here :

051g3(12:51:40):   this could not be the new policy

051g3(12:52:07): mods are need to keep the rules too

051g3(12:52:14): but not create rule

a short excerpt from my talk with Admin on 5.5.2008 after you have replied to my first answer to this topic !


I have more if you want !


Wilhelm

To Opa Wihelm
 Dear  Opa Wihelm  van Oranye ? or Von SS ..?

 In respect of your : i do respect to U,

1 Top 1 rate MVP, 2. senior guy, 3. long time contribution in forum,etc

 Allow me to remind you  Opa,  this is Public and read by anyone visitor.

as like in the Bronx street ?  Your comments  and words are published

and will become a such character- assassin intention and such a soft campaign of Systematic Provocation with public opinion via media ? A black Pulitzer ?

But I believe in my deep heart you did not mean it on purpose, do not you ? Thai land BK is not so far and nice place to visit, do u close to G-triangle area? Opa wiseman

Suggest to U :

such very private of your statement is suppose via hot line channel TM chat room ?!?  or you say that you do not know how to utility this ?

Opa Old buddy, you still over reactive and offensive as like the Youth ?

 If not so,  your counter attack by publishing your chat with admin about John

 is conduct with above "context" ...may be You see too much Tom & Jerry Cartoon

and all of the action there had condensed into your ROM,  and it was updated with

oldy time memories downloaded.  Those all facet  shaped your Personality.

As the Senior and Top rating 1 position,  it would be very kind and nice of you to

edit and delete the "private talks with admin" not in this banner. if any words to say

please direct via  TM, do not use forum for a Personal. ( this is not such a Rule is it ?)

but Bottom of the Line is refer to the  "Ethic"  and Pre-cadence for Forum Enviro.

I am not a Judge "Bao"  and  Confuxius .  I am just a villager man with

clean air and peaceful place as like Chiang May. Not my intention to interfere and justify both of  U at all.

You would do it please ? i will do the same (edit and delete it ) as positive thing.

it is not merely just about "Ethic in Published zone" thanks ..happy living days.

                           

Quoting from [Strongman Products]:

Quoting from [wilhelm]:

Quoting from [Strongman Products]:

Sorry maybe you miss the point, i am the Moderator in this form and as you know as Mods we are here to manage the forum, in that way we have to Del or move posts/replies if we feel this action is needed, as you have given the rules for the forum, which are for the members, but as Moderators we have our own Moderation Guidelines.

moderators are allowed to delete, edit and respond to messages from other members

Having you reply text ready for the next persons questions set on you computer desktop in a file is not how i want people to get replies all the time, it would be much better to quote your other reply and enter the link, and ask this member to check this, not to copy and paste all the text time and time again.

I will show your saved text at the end of this manual reply, and see the three foums where this text is also duplicated to members questions.

     Dear John,

     The Mod's position is having many wind blows,  highest place will stronger winds.

     Understand your suggestion for improvement.  But step by step please not all audience and

     members in forum is as Strong as like STRONGMAN.  some of them are newbies,

     beginners and some of them are Old Men. 

     Use the Chinese approach "respect to the Elders"  to get support.

     And this also applicable to Our Oldy Opa Wihelm Von ...?

     I may suggest to you to using TM Chat to continue your aruing i/o in the open published here?

     Would you edit and delete the improper statement and  Personal file parts from this panel.

     As a Mod's  U has such authority/edit don't you ? 

     Make it as Not a new Rule but Suggestion.  Fair enough right ?

     OK thank U,

Quoting from [Oneuni]:

Quoting from [Strongman Products]:

Quoting from [wilhelm]:

Quoting from [Strongman Products]:

Sorry maybe you miss the point, i am the Moderator in this form and as you know as Mods we are here to manage the forum, in that way we have to Del or move posts/replies if we feel this action is needed, as you have given the rules for the forum, which are for the members, but as Moderators we have our own Moderation Guidelines.

moderators are allowed to delete, edit and respond to messages from other members

Having you reply text ready for the next persons questions set on you computer desktop in a file is not how i want people to get replies all the time, it would be much better to quote your other reply and enter the link, and ask this member to check this, not to copy and paste all the text time and time again.

I will show your saved text at the end of this manual reply, and see the three foums where this text is also duplicated to members questions.

     Dear John,


     The Mod's position is having many wind blows,  highest place will stronger winds.


     Understand your suggestion for improvement.  But step by step please not all audience and


     members in forum is as Strong as like STRONGMAN.  some of them are newbies,


     beginners and some of them are Old Men. 


     Use the Chinese approach "respect to the Elders"  to get support.


     And this also applicable to Our Oldy Opa Wihelm Von ...?


     I may suggest to you to using TM Chat to continue your aruing i/o in the open published here?


     Would you edit and delete the improper statement and  Personal file parts from this panel.


     As a Mod's  U has such authority/edit don't you ? 


     Make it as Not a new Rule but Suggestion.  Fair enough right ?


     OK thank U,

In fact i have wanted to talk via real time conversation but with not reply!! as you know i am back in UK now and very busy  with the business, but as before i would still reply to any bad comments that were pushed to me.

As you will see i have posted 50pts to him for helping on the forum but this post was not replied to, so just like someone to refuse your handshake! i don't think i will loose sleep at night.

If people are on other sides this can cause issues, but as the main point is to help others on this fourm and i think i have done ok while working full time why we all can not work here and do this in the right manner, but we are all not the same.

Quoting from [Strongman Products]:

 Sorry maybe you miss the point, i am the Moderator in this form and as you know as Mods we are here to manage the forum, in that way we have to Del or move posts/replies if we feel this action is needed, as you have given the rules for the forum, which are for the members, but as Moderators we have our own Moderation Guidelines.

moderators are allowed to delete, edit and respond to messages from other members

Having you reply text ready for the next persons questions set on you computer desktop in a file is not how i want people to get replies all the time, it would be much better to quote your other reply and enter the link, and ask this member to check this, not to copy and paste all the text time and time again.

I will show your saved text at the end of this manual reply, and see the three foums where this text is also duplicated to members questions.

resources.alibaba.com/topic/288516/Please_some_can_verify_this_alibaba_company_seller_.html

verifing a company
resources.alibaba.com/topic/280797/Scam_or_not_.html

Safe trading

resources.alibaba.com/topic/273972/cervelo_p3.htmReport

Suspicious Companies

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Indonesia has no Industry in this kind of merchandise !



Why do you think, that imported items in Indonesia could be cheaper than in the country of manufacturing or in your homecountry, one point is two times shipping costs !!!



All this Indonesian Scammer believe and are often right, that greedy buyers will take everything for sure, if they only see their profit and not think about that such a business is impossible !



No manufacturer sells something to Indonesia cheaper, because it is a wonderful country !



No manufacturer sells something to Indonesia cheaper, because they have so much poor people !



No manufacturer sell something to Indonesia cheaper, because they would not worry their wholesalers in other countries when their items could be reimported from Indonesia cheaper than they sell at home !!!

Who not believe this or deny it, may post and give a prove that I am wrong !


Buy furniture, plant oil, copra, charcoal and Batik in Indonesia thats the items you can buy cheap and with good quality if due diligence is used before !

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Make the reply to the person as an individual, give the link to you other reply so they can check the text so that it's not being pasted 100s of time to new members, sure takes a couple of seconds to paste the text, and a couple of minutes to type the words directed to that person, but thats quality reading, i for one don't like to read the same article more than once.

I support you on this,I felt sorry for myself that I missed read this topic in the first place because that saved text still posted at the other forums.

Quoting from [Strongman Products]:

This is for Identical or Similar replies to posts and questions on this forum.

Copy and paste of information from onother source is fine, but must show where you have gained this info from at the end of your reply or post. If this information is again sent to another post or reply to a question, this would become spam if it was not  related too the question or what the person wanted to know, and would be treated like this, by way of deletion from this forum.

The forum should have good quality of information and not the same type of info sent out for replies to posts and questions where points is earned for duplicate information.

Let's give people quality information, but directed to them as individuals and not just made for any persons.

Nice.Very Good.You are my Friend!!