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I paid to one supplier on your website that he is a gold supplier
here is the link:
http://shoesshop.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/201488300/sell_lg_ke850_apple_iphone_N95_N91_N80_Motorola_Sony_Samsung_watch_phone_runa_8800se_.html
and i didn't get the goods they aren't respond to me and i already paid i don't know what to do someone can help somehow?
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24 Apr 2008 06:25
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Quoting from [eld]:


I paid to one supplier on your website that he is a gold supplier

here is the link:

http://shoesshop.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/201488300/sell_lg_ke850_apple_iphone_N95_N91_N80_Motorola_Sony_Samsung_watch_phone_runa_8800se_.html

and i didn't get the goods they aren't respond to me and i already paid i don't know what to do someone can help somehow?



1. Related Guide:   

  If you had been scammed by a PUTIAN fraud, as a criminal case you would have to report it to Putian local police, plz do make it sure that you had related documents ready. First is the evidence certifying that you had paid them. T/T WIRE or WEST UNION. Second all your records of conservation with the guy. And third is what cargo you had got from the guy. And you will need to come to China in person, or entrust a local lawyer.

Some telephone numbers as following:

Putian City Police Office Case Report Hotline: +86-594-110 (Online police officer maybe can not speak English)

Putian City Police Office Net-security Department

email: ptga@winmail.cn

Telephone: +86-594-2682800, 2682802 (Online police officer maybe can not speak English)

Fax: +86-594-2682803

Fujian Province Police Office

General Team of Crime Investigation

Telephone: +86-591-87094290 (Online police officer maybe can not speak English)

At same time, you can also treated it as a civil dispute but not a criminal case if you still can get in contact with the Putian person(s), and/or when they did sent you part of items you had purchased, and a possible solution for this situation is to hire a Chinese lawyer who can speak English to offer you legal service.

  

     

2.  Related Chinese Laws  

  PRC CRIMINAL LAW

Article 224. Whoever, for the purpose of illegal possession, uses one of the following means during signing or executing a contract to obtain property and goods of the opposite party by fraud, and when the amount of money is relatively large, is to be sentenced to not more than three years of fixed-term imprisonment, criminal detention, and may in addition or exclusively be sentenced to a fine; or be sentenced to not less than three years and not more than 10 years of fixed-term imprisonment and a fine, if the amount of money is huge or there are other serious circumstances; or be sentenced to more than 10 years of fixed-term imprisonment or life imprisonment and a fine or confiscation of property, if the amount of money is particularly huge or there are other particularly serious circumstances:

(1) sign a contract in the name of a made-up unit or under somebody else's name;

(2) use forged, altered, or invalid negotiable instruments or other false certificates of property rights as guaranties;

(3) fulfill small-amount contracts or partially fulfill the contract, instead of actually fulfilling the contract, to inveigle the opposite party into continuing to sign and fulfill the contract;

(4) go into hiding after receiving goods, payment, advance payment, or property as guaranty from the opposite party;

(5) defraud the opposite party's property through other means.

25 Apr 2008 09:22
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3. A Piece of News: The foreigner took it seriously, and the PUTIAN online swindler was arrested  

  Date: March 30, 2007

Source: China Procuratorial Daily (Held by The Supreme People's Procuratorate of PRC)

Original Chinese Version: http://www.jcrb.com/n1/jcrb1251/ca593605.htm

Translated by Sun Jin

Online swindler Li Peng can not imagine it even in his dream, that his so-called CLIENT will come from Italy thousands miles away to China to report the case to local police, for USD2100 only. In recent days, Li Peng was arrested by police under approval of Putian Procuratorate, for the reason of suspicious that he had committed a crime named Contract Fraud in PRC CRIME LAW.

In Jun. 2006, Li Peng established an online shop in a commercial B2B website, to do online-trade. In November of the year, he found SONY brand PS3 was very hot in markets world widely; he managed to get a sample PS3, and ask his clerks to post online to advertise that he has lots of PS3 in stock, and his quotation was much lower than the normal price in the market. In Dec. 22 of the year, a client from Italy got in contact with Li Peng via email, and decided to purchase 5 sets of PS3. In Jan. 2 of 2007, the Italy client wired USD2100 of payment according to mutual agreement to Li Peng's account. After Li Peng got the payment, he asked his farther to buy a pair of shoes, and couriered it to the Italy client. After the Italy client getting the courier parcel, he expressed his doubts at once. But Li Peng gave him lots of reasons such as Customs and Courier Company's working mistakes. Feb. 6, the Italian who thought he was scammed, came to Putian City, Fujian Province, to report the case to local police. (Reporter: Wang Lei, Lin Guoqiang)

  

 

25 Apr 2008 09:24
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200% profit will drive them mad and ignore the risk of being executed to death.

--------- Karl Marx.

 

25 Apr 2008 09:28
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Quoting from [eld]:


I paid to one supplier on your website that he is a gold supplier

here is the link:

http://shoesshop.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/201488300/sell_lg_ke850_apple_iphone_N95_N91_N80_Motorola_Sony_Samsung_watch_phone_runa_8800se_.html

and i didn't get the goods they aren't respond to me and i already paid i don't know what to do someone can help somehow?



Your money is gone.  Let me guess this company sells all kinds of hot items like Nike's, Gucci, and Nokia N95 phones?  Yes, your money is gone.  Learn and move on. 

I got a kick out of the Marx quote.  99% of the time you just go about thinking of others like they live next door and then you are reminded that people are all different with unique experiences.  Someday they will hang me with the rope I sold them.

29 Apr 2008 20:41
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